Backhand modern weight transfer technique: loading on dominant leg. What do you think or prefer?

[victormanriquey]

I didn't use FH tho. It was pure backhand. Ah, you thought I was the one in front of camera?

I was the one in red shirt, serving. Lol. We were lost in translation.

Oohhhh!! I see!! hahaha indeed lost in translation! thanks for clarifying!!

 

[joshmak10]

See I just model my BH off FZD…so whenever I do BH you might see a 6’2” FZD from Wish.

 

[victormanriquey]

See I just model my BH off FZD…so whenever I do BH you might see a 6’2” FZD from Wish.

Mine is the Lin Gaoyuan's general draws his sword, but then from Temu xD

 

[Gozo Zyreruna]

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This is a BH done by Nina, Eurozone style BH. I have not seen a Japanese women player perform BH like this. They speed drive it all the time, no loopy-loopy like Euro women.

 

[victormanriquey]

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This is a BH done by Nina, Eurozone style BH. I have not seen a Japanese women player perform BH like this. They speed drive it all the time, no loopy-loopy like Euro women.

Feels like she is hitting the ball more than the loopy-loopy indeed, but a bit hard to see what she did in the seconds before the video starts! I prefer this style too of hit-brushing on BH, lin gaoyuan does it very clearly

 

[GhostBackhand]

Backhand is for the people with slow feet xD

Play me once and you’ll understand my deadly backhand loop haha

 

[victormanriquey]

Play me once and you’ll understand my deadly backhand loop haha

Would be glad to! Coming to the TTD event in september?

Btw, nowadays I love my backhand too a win a lot of points with it, the above was just a joke the old chinese I learnt with told me when I started haha

 

[Kilogramme]

When I started playing TT, I got told that forehand and fast feet was the only thing I needed, so I did not learnt backhand correctly in the first 2 years.

Then I realised that advice was wrong, specially looking at modern TT games, and starting learning how to attack on BH. But after talking to coaches and seeing online videos, there was back then no agreement on whether I should do the weight transfer:

• From the dominant leg with an inwards recoil and then forward like a flick, like this video:
• From non-dominant leg to dominant leg like this video:
• Or don't use much hip like anders lind says in his videos, only when you are far from the table and keep the arm high:

I started like the second video, I felt more comfortable and relaxed this way, but since 1y year ago or so I started trying the loading on dominant leg framework, and since then I'm really happy with that and have significantly improved my BH and the rhythm/stance/recovery overall, I feel it's now much easier to connect FH and BH.

I'd love to hear your opinions on this fascinating topic, there is probably no right or wrong answer, but I've been making a curated list of technique videos here and would like to discuss the topic as nowadays people ask me about this a fair amount, most people are surprised when they see the loading on the dominant leg And to be concrete, I'm not referring to the technique on short balls here, that's always on dominant leg, I'm referring to normal long balls

Thanks!

Well, I tend to do like you, more liek the chinese way. Use the legs, from left to right (my dominant leg). But more of a mix of the 2 first video. I tighten the core, and do the weight transfert. But mostly on powerful/finisher shot, or far from the table. Close to the table, I don't have time, so I might tend to the first video. But I definately don't use lind technic. When I do, my ball is kinda slow and with small spin. I could with Tenergy. But my issue, is that when I was doing weight transfert and all, I was bottoming out Tenergy lol. I think, overall it depends more on playstyle.
As a FH dominant player, our BH is there to get a FH shot after, or a pivot, so a bigger swing is fine as it is used to transition to FH. I am a 3rd/5th ball attacker, so my BH don't need to be short stroke. After 5th ball, I am a bit further,so I need this power from the leg to get the ball on the court. To allow me to get FH again.

 

[ajtatosmano2]

I remember Kenji Matsudaira made a video where he was experimenting with left vs right leg dominant backhands and his conclusion was that "it depends on the ball". I can't find the video, but it was in japanese, maybe on his own channel.

 

[victormanriquey]

Yeah balls that go to the wide BH are hard to do with weight on right

 

[jonol]

Everyone has different leverages, so there will always be variation in shot mechanics between players, as well as being very dependent on the incoming ball.

The basic fundamentals will apply to most strokes, but it's more effective to focus on developing the backhand that fulfils the purpose that benefits your game the most.

If you primarily attack from the backhand then you should be able to open up, loop and counter consistently. Someone who plays close to the table and mostly attacks from the forehand should be able accurately block and punch with good placement on the backhand. Obviously a very simplified example.

I guess to answer the thread, I mostly play inside > forward. I tend to use my backhand for placement and control to create opportunities to step around and use my forehand, so I prefer being more compact and closer to the table and rarely step away. I think the left > right motion makes sense if you're trying to maximize spin and power on your backhand, or playing further from the table.

 

[NextLevel]

I remember Kenji Matsudaira made a video where he was experimenting with left vs right leg dominant backhands and his conclusion was that "it depends on the ball". I can't find the video, but it was in japanese, maybe on his own channel.

That said, pros have trained hard enough to be able to carry their body weight on either foot and explode into position if their balance is not compromised so rhey have options. Most players will have to make more nuanced choices based on their preferred plays. I am trying to get more weight on my right foot tonsee whether it helps me cover the wide forehand better when my opponent goes down the line.