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Actually I decided to try again H8-80 after reaidng your review. 2 years ago I had it on slower all-wood blade and it felt dead and not very reactive (although serves were great as it was still really tacky). I bought Donic Waldner WC89 what appeared to be stiffer and harder than I expected, quite fast for inner carbon blade. So I was searching for slower tacky rubbers to balance it, but with not too hard sponge. Also read your review of Rakza Z so decided to give both a try and I am really happy with this setup. Rakza I play for 2 months and H8-80 one month, but it convinced me to suspend my EJing for a whileYes same here @Marvinn8686 , Rakza Z is decent tackiness, I like it. 8-80 also