What bat should I get?

What bat should I get?


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Thanks guys, that is all very helpful. I only have a budget of about 105 pounds and i get 20% off with bribar. Bribar's main brand is joola and i have used their epuipment before and loved it. What about Joola K6/fever with rhyzm/maxxx 450 on both sides? Pls say which one as well. Thanks

Okay, one last post. You like Joola, have a look at the Joola Viva:

http://www.tabletennisdb.com/blade/joola-viva.html

That bat is still probably too fast, but you would still do well with it. It is a 7 ply beast but has amazing feel and control for a blade that fast. I know I have tried Rhyzm and that is good rubber. I don't know about the other rubber, but Rhyzm is pretty nice.
 
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Maxx is more of a backhand rubber than rhyzm.

ALC is a really great which is definitely worth the spendings. Although I still prefer Viscaria more which for me has the best ball feel ever(if u can find one).

U might want to take a further look at bribar's blades 1st b4 deciding. I also found there're Stiga, TSP, Tibhar baldes on that site, though for me TSP products were frankly rubbish apart from their pimple-out rubbers
 
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Maxx is more of a backhand rubber than rhyzm.

ALC is a really great which is definitely worth the spendings. Although I still prefer Viscaria more which for me has the best ball feel ever(if u can find one).

U might want to take a further look at bribar's blades 1st b4 deciding. I also found there're Stiga, TSP, Tibhar baldes on that site, though for me TSP products were frankly rubbish apart from their pimple-out rubbers

Viscaria is a Butterfly ALC blade. It has Arylate and Carbon. There are lots of ALC blades from Butterfly. My money says, sebbas-aguirre, who knows what he is talking about, meant all the Butterfly blades with ALC like Maze, Keyshot Light, TB Spririt, Innerforce ALC, etc, etc.
 
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See, it says Arylate-Carbon on the blade face:
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In spite of the fact that those ALC blades have really good touch and better dwell and feel than most carbon blades, the Joola Viva would be better.

And the Avalox P-500 and the Stiga Offensive Classic would be better than that.
 
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Okay, one last post. You like Joola, have a look at the Joola Viva:

http://www.tabletennisdb.com/blade/joola-viva.html

That bat is still probably too fast, but you would still do well with it. It is a 7 ply beast but has amazing feel and control for a blade that fast. I know I have tried Rhyzm and that is good rubber. I don't know about the other rubber, but Rhyzm is pretty nice.
Sorry but that blade isnt in the bribar site. How about joola k6, k7, rossi force or spirit off +
 
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Sorry but that blade isnt in the bribar site. How about joola k6, k7, rossi force or spirit off +

I don't know about the other blades you have mentioned but the Joola Fever is a pretty good blade. Probably the best blade you have mentioned that you are interested in. It is really fast but it looks like all you are interested in is Off+. I would go with Fever if you want something as fast as that. I have two friends who are pretty high level, sponsored by Joola who use that blade and it feels pretty nice. As much feel, dwell and control as a blade that fast can have.

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I don't know about the other blades you have mentioned but the Joola Fever is a pretty good blade. Probably the best blade you have mentioned that you are interested in. It is really fast but it looks like all you are interested in is Off+. I would go with Fever if you want something as fast as that. I have two friends who are pretty high level, sponsored by Joola who use that blade and it feels pretty nice. As much feel, dwell and control as a blade that fast can have.

Good luck.

I want an off+ blade as i am probably don't have as strong hitting power as everyone else here so i want the blade with the best feeling-speed ratio. I found joola rossi force; that is fast but still has a lot of control. And also it ia reduced to 40 pounds from 80. Woth my 20 percent off it means i can get it for 32 pounds.
 
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I want an off+ blade as i am probably don't have as strong hitting power as everyone else here so i want the blade with the best feeling-speed ratio. I found joola rossi force; that is fast but still has a lot of control. And also it ia reduced to 40 pounds from 80. Woth my 20 percent off it means i can get it for 32 pounds.

So I will give this one more try.

If you want more power, if you want to improve and generate more power, if you want your strokes to improve so that the ball goes faster and you have more power:

THEN YOU WANT TO BE USING A BLADE THAT IS BETWEEN ALL+ AND OFF- or at the highest, an Offensive rated blade at the low end of the Off speed like a Stiga Offensive Classic. That would be one of the fastest blades you should get.

Here is the theory on this: if you use an Off+ blade because you want more speed and you cannot generate the speed yourself, the blade's speed will cause you to modify your stroke so that you, Perhaps, get the ball on the table, BY CUTTING DOWN YOUR STROKE. You will not be completing your stroke. Your mechanics will get worse. You will get that stroke that is worse into muscle memory. And then it will be so much harder (really ALMOST impossible) to improve your stroke.

So in the end, you won't end up with a ball that is going much faster because you will not be able to handle the speed of the blade which will cause you to change your stroke and make it smaller to try to get the ball on the table. You will not even know you are doing this. You won't realize it is happening. And as you start being able to keep the ball on the table your stroke will have gotten worse and the ball speed won't have changed that much.

With an Off+ blade you will never learn to time the weight transfer and the hip rotation with the forearm snap. And that is what gets you more power.

I have a friend who is USATT rated 2550 who uses the Stiga Allround Evolution. His ball is powerful and he can put it past anyone.

I don't know too many pros who use Off+ blades. Most use blades in the Off speed rating category. Not faster. There are a few exceptions. Then there is my friend who is using the Evolution blade who is an exception in the other direction. But every pro I know can get tons of power from that Allround Evolution blade.

If I was you I would be more concerned with improving my mechanics than with getting the fastest blade on the market.

But, if you don't get this, then go ahead, go for an Off+ blade. By all means. I know 4 high level players who are sponsored by Joola. 2 of them use the Fever and 2 of them use the Viva. I can say the Viva feels better in many ways because it has more control and more feeling. But the Fever is a darn good blade. Rossi Force, all I can say about it is, I don't know anyone who uses it and none of the people I know who get free products from Joola use it. So I have no idea about how it plays. But I do know this. I don't like most of the Joola blades I have tried that much. I do like the Viva and the Fever. They are good blades even if they are too fast.

You have an idea in your head of what you want and not much is going to change that. So go ahead and get what you want. But the reality of the situation is, you probably are looking at things in a bit of the wrong way.

Rather than this forum, why don't you go to a local pro. Take a couple of lessons and ask him what equipment would be best for you so that you could develop and improve. I know the rubbers it says you are using may not be the best, but that blade you are using is a GREAT BLADE and does not need changing. I am not sure how you arrived at that blade in the first place but somehow you got a good blade for developing your game.

That blade should be good until you are at about the level of an EXPERT PLAYER: USATT rating of 2100-2200 approximately. If you are not at that level, you should probably stick with what you have or get:

Butterfly Primorac Off-

Or one step up:

Stiga Offensive Classic
Butterfly Petr Korbel

You could also get:

Nittaku Accoustic (a bit more expensive but worth the price).

Or, you could get the Der_Echte special: Yinhe Galaxy 896 blade ($16.00 USD but an excellent blade, especially for the price).

Truthfully, I would say, keep your blade and just get high quality rubbers. But you are going to do what you want. Which means you probably did not really want advice. You just wanted someone to tell you you were right or something.

So go get yourself a Joola Fever. The other Joola blade that costs less may be okay but it may really suck. The numbers that the companies put up are marketing and not real. There really is no such thing as a blade that is Off++ with 98% control and 99% spin. The Joola Fever is definitely in the quality range of a Timo Boll ALC which, even if it is way too fast for you, is at least an Excellent, EXCELLENT blade.
 
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If you want a blade you can grow with, AND you absolutely MUST have Joola rubbers to go with that side of Joola blade....

You will not be disappointed in Fire with Rhythm on FH and whatever you want to slap on BH to Beach-Slap Ur opponents.

Such a setup is reasonably priced and if you stay with it, get effective coaching, and stick with the sport, one could get to a real decent badd-ass level with this.

This is a low end of the OFF speed range, but still manageable if a coach can see you in action.
 
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Sorry to be so annoying, but I just want to get the Perfect bat. have you seen the joola rossi emotion. the bribar site says its off- and it has loads of control. it has carbon but only for when you are attacking (and larger sweet spot). on table tennis db it says it has 8.7/10 and the rossi fire has 8.6/10 even so it says that the rossi emotion has more control.

Thanks, you are being a great help,
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Sorry to be so annoying, but I just want to get the Perfect bat. have you seen the joola rossi emotion. the bribar site says its off- and it has loads of control. it has carbon but only for when you are attacking (and larger sweet spot). on table tennis db it says it has 8.7/10 and the rossi fire has 8.6/10 even so it says that the rossi emotion has more control.

Thanks, you are being a great help,
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There is no such thing as perfect bat. Choose one and which you feel right and grow upon it. Comments and rating depends on people. It may happen that someone who just started playing give the fastest speed rating to a defensive blade as he own that one only. So better get a local player's advice and if he has that blade, play with it. See if you really like it or its just a infatuation. Choosing a tt blade can be sometimes hectic and can tire you. Concentrate on your technique and nourish it. At the end of the day if you are fully developed then you can choose and decide on your own. Its just like at the end of school or college after which you know which way to go.

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When I am at a computer I will have a look at the Rossi Fire's specs and reviews. The other ones may be a safer bet. Butterfly's blades are very solid. The Petr Korbel is an Off rated blade but either Butterfly blade should be good.

Does anyone out there know how the Rossi Fire plays from experience?


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Okay, I looked at things. It might be okay. First thing I looked at is that it is $45.00 (USD) which as a start is a bit of a red flag. When Joola has a blade that is good they usually price it higher. 2nd thing I looked at is that it is an all wood blade with 7 (SEVEN) plies and one of the reviewers is calling it Flexy. That is also a red flag. Good flex is good but a 7 ply blade should not really be flexible.

It might be fine, but, reading between the likes in the reviews I read, it is probably nowhere near as good a blade as the two Butterfly blades you are thinking about.

Has anyone on the forum used a Joola Rossi Fire????


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Sorry to be so annoying, but I just want to get the Perfect bat. have you seen the joola rossi emotion. the bribar site says its off- and it has loads of control. it has carbon but only for when you are attacking (and larger sweet spot). on table tennis db it says it has 8.7/10 and the rossi fire has 8.6/10 even so it says that the rossi emotion has more control.

Thanks, you are being a great help,
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Sorry, I wasn't sure if you saw this or not. I know it is a bit faster than rossi fire (only a bit (read what i pasted from earlier)) but apparently it has amazing control and dwell time
 
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Okay, I looked at things. It might be okay. First thing I looked at is that it is $45.00 (USD) which as a start is a bit of a red flag. When Joola has a blade that is good they usually price it higher. 2nd thing I looked at is that it is an all wood blade with 7 (SEVEN) plies and one of the reviewers is calling it Flexy. That is also a red flag. Good flex is good but a 7 ply blade should not really be flexible.

It might be fine, but, reading between the likes in the reviews I read, it is probably nowhere near as good a blade as the two Butterfly blades you are thinking about.

Has anyone on the forum used a Joola Rossi Fire????
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