England Nationals (Mark Bates Ltd Senior National Championships 2026)

[mikeytt]

A lot of members on the forum are british so i thought id open a thread for our nationals which is taking place this weekend. You can watch live here (not sure if geo blocked):

Seems we have access to the WTT scoring system which is nice:

Live scores + Schedule​

 

[mikeytt]

Hard match for TTD's pocket rocket, really shows the level difference of the pros lol

 

[NextLevel]

Hard match for TTD's pocket rocket, really shows the level difference of the pros lol View attachment 40849

Very normal if there is a serious level difference, most of the guys in Pocket Rocket level are around usatt 2400 and Jarvis is more like USATT 2700. Moreover Jarvis dominates on serve and backhand (quick strike not big looping per se) so if you cannot find your way around this, the matchup is ugly.

 

[NDH]

Hard match for TTD's pocket rocket, really shows the level difference of the pros lol

Very normal if there is a serious level difference

Agree to both these points - But probably something a lot of forum people don't realise.

Pocket Rocket, Tom, Dan etc, might look like superstars to *most* people (and they are heroes of our sport!)

But you then have a huge step up to the likes of Jarvis, and then an even bigger step up to the likes of the top 20 pros etc.

The difference is unbelievable.

 

[NextLevel]

The mix of flashbacks, ads and matches can be confusing in the livestream.

 

[vvk1]

Andrew Baggaley must be gutted - 3:0 up v Sam Walker in one of the quarter-finals and then lost 9:11 in the 7th. Great comeback by Sam.

 

[mikeytt]

Quite an upset in the quarters, david mcbeath lost to Larry Trumpauskas a rising young player, looked like a very close game though

 

[NextLevel]

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Quite an upset in the quarters, david mcbeath lost to Larry Trumpauskas a rising young player, looked like a very close game though

Trump has funky serves ans is a lefty, given McBeath's heavy reliance on flicking, I suspect it played a role.

 

[Wrighty67]

Agree to both these points - But probably something a lot of forum people don't realise.

Pocket Rocket, Tom, Dan etc, might look like superstars to *most* people (and they are heroes of our sport!)

But you then have a huge step up to the likes of Jarvis, and then an even bigger step up to the likes of the top 20 pros etc.

The difference is unbelievable.

I watched it courtside - Toms level was significantly better in every area of the game. Umair did t get on the board until 7-0 game 2. Tom looks a different player as a result I guess of his living in Germany and greater international exposure.

 

[Wrighty67]

Larry T and Jo Hunter both looking really good this year in the singles. Walker and Drinkhall looking top class in men’s doubles.

 

[zeio]

Does this tournament have any bearing on the ENG MT/WT lineups for WTTC 2026?

 

[the-don]

Agree to both these points - But probably something a lot of forum people don't realise.

Pocket Rocket, Tom, Dan etc, might look like superstars to *most* people (and they are heroes of our sport!)

But you then have a huge step up to the likes of Jarvis, and then an even bigger step up to the likes of the top 20 pros etc.

The difference is unbelievable.

Dan and Tom from ttdaily.....what are more or less their national rankings in England?

 

[vvk1]

Trump has funky serves ans is a lefty, given McBeath's heavy reliance on flicking, I suspect it played a role.

Lorestas, Larry's dad, is the lefty. Larry is a righty and has improved dramatically in the last 5 years or so.

 

[NDH]

Dan and Tom from ttdaily.....what are more or less their national rankings in England?

I think Dan is about 66, and Tom isn’t on the list (but would maybe be 30-40 ish?)

Someone who knows the scene better than me could comment.

But, from those guys to our very best, is a huge gap.

And then from our very best (Jarvis, Pitchford, Drinkhall), there is STILL, a huge gap to the top of the game.

With how the UK is set up, I’m not sure we’ll ever have a real global contender.

 

[vvk1]

Sam Walker v Larry Trumpauskas semi-final live now:

 

[mikeytt]

Sam Walker advances to the final 4-1 vs Larry Trumpauskas

 

[NextLevel]

Lorestas, Larry's dad, is the lefty. Larry is a righty and has improved dramatically in the last 5 years or so.

How old is he now?

 

[vvk1]

How old is he now?

18

 

[NextLevel]

18

Wow... what happened to Connor?

 

[vvk1]

Wow... what happened to Connor?

Lost to Joseph Hunter 2:4. Don't think it was streamed.

Draw/results: https://www.tabletennisengland.co.uk/mark-bates-ltd-senior-national-championships-2026/

P.S.: Someone else recorded Larry's QF match v David McBeath: