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  1. Is ma long the GOAT ?

    Maybe he was as good but the plastic ball just made the backhand easier to play. Even players who had crappy backhands like Par Gerell developed better backhands with the plastic ball. Dima pointed this out as one of the things that changed as more consistent plastic balls were developed...
  2. Is ma long the GOAT ?

    I could just as well argue that the spin on the celluloid ball was harder to control and made mastery of the serve return and rallies much more difficult. The problem is that if you already have an answer in mind, most of your logic will justify the answer. Zeio also brought up the 7 per...
  3. Is ma long the GOAT ?

    In tennis, there are a lot of changing historical criteria (Australian Open was not always a well regarded slam, and number of slam titles were not a measuring stick till after Sampras retired). Federer is great, but Nadal and Djokovic have arguments, from H2H to versatility or surface specific...
  4. Is ma long the GOAT ?

    Well let's make a case for prime Wang Liqin or Zhang Jike. They won WTTC champs in the cell ball era in field in which Ma Long participated. Ma Long won his with plastic. Therefore I take those 2 over Ma Long because I don't consider plastic results on the same level. They also beat their...
  5. GRIP and how it affects technique

    Just play and practice and focus on shot quality. The more you practice, the more you will adjust your grip to produce the optimal ball quality. No one plays with exactly the same grip or grip pressure on every shot. Test tips but focus on ball quality.
  6. Is ma long the GOAT ?

    Agree 100%.
  7. Is ma long the GOAT ?

    That you can't even restate my argument shows the problem. My argument is that Ma Long is the GOAT, but that I can understand why given ZJK's injuries and decline and Ma Long's poor record against Wang Hao at the big events where everyone is supposed to peak and bring their best game may give...
  8. Is ma long the GOAT ?

    Punditry is fun though. And you can kinda make your own judgments and have your own opinions about all kinds of things. IT is what historians do in part as trying to figure out what should be preserved for future generations when you have limited storage is a part of life. Hall of Fame etc...
  9. Is ma long the GOAT ?

    Exactly. He seems to confuse the point of view of others with "everyone must think about the issue the same way he does but just arrive at other conclusions" rather than just accepting that not everyone will do it like him and that is life.
  10. ITTF 2019 Slovenia Open May 8-12

    Pota wins a very close final deuce in the 7th (15-13). She seems to play more topspin on the forehand now. Now... come on, Jakob!
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    The size says Gavin Rumgay or Par Gerrell.
  12. Daily Table Tennis Chit Chat

    Oh no, not again...
  13. Is ma long the GOAT ?

    Derailed how? Fanboys never tire of hearing how great Ma Long is. You know you can find many threads saying the same thing. This one just goes off and on once in a while. Just find new stats to show that Ma Long beat more people and it will be back on track. They just won't be Wang Hao at...
  14. Is ma long the GOAT ?

    I am a bit lost here. You really think accusing someone of lacking respect and sportsmanship for TT players is polite?
  15. ITTF 2019 Slovenia Open May 8-12

    Wei Shihao vs Truls Moregard on table 1 now.
  16. Is ma long the GOAT ?

    Usualsuspect accuses me of unsportsmanlike behavior because I say certain players are not great (or not as great as others). He argues I can't do so because I am not a journalist. I suspect his real goal is to make you write it so he can accuse you of being disrespectful and unsportsmanlike.
  17. Is ma long the GOAT ?

    It is not about "blame". It is about whether you should be more careful when using the numbers to measure someone's dominance. I have no problem with Ma Long using both the eye test and the stat test. But I fully understand why anyone would hold those losses to Wang Hao against him and stress...
  18. Is ma long the GOAT ?

    Yeah. We also had Rosskopf saying that Fan Zhendong should have gone and that sending ZJK created an opening. The funny thing is that despite all this, I still think Ma Long is the GOAT. I just don't think these things should be lied about.
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