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It isn't appreciably stressed relative to what? I wrote something specific which you edited. It's easy to make people sound stupid when you misquote them in the first place. If you really believe that the fact that everything has tension means that everything is equally internally stressed...

Hahahaha... izra, nice description, but I don't think you know what you are talking about wrt to me and Pnatchwey. I actually wrote at more personal length to explain why I consider people like him dangerous because they don't understand enough TT to understand the limits of their thinking...

If they said elastic topsheet, would that make you feel better? Like I said, tension and elasticity are linked concepts. So how is this useful to a practical player? And while I disagree with you, without it being something demonstrable, our debate is largely useless. What is far more...

izra, give me a break. Isn't the whole point of my posting some of these things and the whole point of Carl's post to alert people to the fact that OP is not speaking the same language as others if they care to know, whatever you think of my taste or Carl's? Tension and elasticity are linked...

Your option is similar to mine. It's no different from how language evolves and gets adapted.

On the internet, people don't demonstrate, they debate. When you ask for demonstration, you get more debate. That's when a smart man like yourself realizes that it is more about intimidation and persuasion, and less about truth and verification.

Pnatchwey made this comment on the very first page of the civilized thread you referenced - there are other comments but I think this makes the point: "This forum seems to be smarter than the other ones." But in your view, the discussion is civilized just because you think it is. There was an...

You are a very nice guy, vvk1, but in the famous words of John McEnroe, you cannot be serious! As in, what threads have you ever seen OP post related to physics that don't end up like this on every forum he has ever joined? And you want pretend that this one was intended to be any different...

The terms forehand and backhand rubber make me cringe every time I hear them. Just saying.

Maybe a video of your stroke or someone you have taught will help me understand this difference that I supposedly do not understand? The other unsaid reason why I don't encourage hobbyists who are adult to learn to loop like CNT players is that table tennis is not solely about who has the best...

Which is precisely the problem. You can't do it, yet in your words, "anyone can learn it as long as they perform the mechanics with their body."

Sure, we can all analyze mechanics and enjoy the mechanics. Does that prove anything about amateurs being able to loop like Ma Long? Why is this kind of thinking limited to looping? As I pointed out, why not serving or pushing etc.? I think what you don't realize from a practical point of...

Here we go. I think you would be hard pressed to find a coach on the CNT who wasn't a high level player, penholder or shakehand, in his younger days, so at one time, they were all state of the art players. But that was not what I said or meant and you know it too. I said that anyone...

As is often the case, the people who post these things never share video of their own loops. I have watched a lot of tennis and I can't play like Federer. I have served a lot and I can't serve like Ma Long. Why should it be easy to loop like him? I mean you have written something that I...

Without video, it is hard to get proper feedback.

Then ask him to apologize for it. Stop saying that because he helps people that we ARE UNFAIR. We don't know him from Adam. That you do is helpful and carries weight with us, but that is no reason for him to be rude. It's not like him and Matt are buddies.

So you've seen this kind of crap before and you think the only reason why someone should not be kind and apologize is that he has a high coaching license? It's never the intention to drive people away, or so we all say - it is to make people feel bad and stupid, which can amount to the same...

Yearh - misinterpreting the role of missing in improving your game is what causes many adults to get frustrated during these drills.

Download and play the TTEdge game - maybe that might help.

On those kinds of drills, the focus is usually on reading the ball and doing an appropriate stroke to get it back, not on doing a full stroke. I think you have to realize and accept that.