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I want to learn a different service because I only know 2 for my forehand, the pendulum and the reverse pendulum. Any suggestions on different FH services?
Those are all you need. If you can do them well, you can create:
Backspin, side/backspin, sidespin, side/topspin, topspin and no spin serves
With either the reverse pendulum or the pendulum serve.
That covers all possible serves with leftward hooking sidespin and rightward hooking sidepspin.
Hook and Tomahawk serve would duplicate the sidespin on the reverse pendulum. But you can do all the spin variations with those as well.
And if you look at all the top players in the world, they generally do those two serves you said you do and they do all the spin variations available for each.
Those are all you need. If you can do them well, you can create:
Backspin, side/backspin, sidespin, side/topspin, topspin and no spin serves
With either the reverse pendulum or the pendulum serve.
That covers all possible serves with leftward hooking sidespin and rightward hooking sidepspin.
Hook and Tomahawk serve would duplicate the sidespin on the reverse pendulum. But you can do all the spin variations with those as well.
And if you look at all the top players in the world, they generally do those two serves you said you do and they do all the spin variations available for each.
Ok thank you for the advice I'm trying to learn how to place my pendulum serve down the line
One pendulum serves down the line coming right up...Ok thank you for the advice I'm trying to learn how to place my pendulum serve down the line
Those are all you need. If you can do them well, you can create:
Backspin, side/backspin, sidespin, side/topspin, topspin and no spin serves
With either the reverse pendulum or the pendulum serve.
That covers all possible serves with leftward hooking sidespin and rightward hooking sidepspin.
Hook and Tomahawk serve would duplicate the sidespin on the reverse pendulum. But you can do all the spin variations with those as well.
And if you look at all the top players in the world, they generally do those two serves you said you do and they do all the spin variations available for each.
Agree
2 types of serves x 6 different spins x long/short/half long x different angles is plenty.
My coach taught me (decades ago) to have 2 different serves - under spin and no spin (and just 4 placements areas) and practice 1 hour a day for 6 months. (that is 1000 serves per hour x 30 x 6 months), around 200k of serves....
And I found that extremely useful to have (a total of 4 different placements with 2 different spin - 8 serves basically)
One pendulum serves down the line coming right up...
@ NDH,
I finally did it! I did not smile nor cho-leh nor show any sign of any emotion. I kept my Waldner'esque cool all the way. Icy cold stare only.
lovely!!
I dunno if i am the only one ,but one advantage of a Bh Serve is,you are mostly quicker in the basic Stance and faster to react.
Or am i the only one feeling that kind of way?
(I know Fh servers have also more advantages with spin deceit,etc.)
I dunno if i am the only one ,but one advantage of a Bh Serve is,you are mostly quicker in the basic Stance and faster to react.
Or am i the only one feeling that kind of way?
(I know Fh servers have also more advantages with spin deceit,etc.)
I find the opposite. If your motion on a FH serve is good, the transfer of weight from left foot to right foot (for a rightly) and the followthrough after, bring you directly into a ready position. I feel like a BH serve leaves you ready for the BH but does not bring you into a neutral position.
Also, on the FH serves, the fact that you have moved your feet with the momentum of the serve as you end up in the ready position means that you are automatically more ready to move your feet. If your feet don't have to move, a lot of people just don't move them.
But since everyone is different, there will always be people who prefer BH serves and others who prefer FH serves. One thing to note is how, most top pros can serve with BH but most top pros do not use BH serves very often. It may be worth thinking about some of the reasons why this is the case.
hm i find when doing a Bh serve, I am not as vulnerable to some quick counterattacks compared to a FH serve which comes then fast looped or even a killshot to my BH,I get the sense that I have more oversight of the opponents motions..but you are right,might be preferences.
I guess some pros mix it in to disrupt the opponents assumption of his Fh servers if the opponent has already a "feeling" or worst figured your serves out.
This may all be objective,but I am with you that when doing a Fh serve ,at least I am more ready and faster to counter/stay in motion with my own Fh,but i think this is also a technique and speed assumption.
But i find it harder when i am already in Motion/movement and the opponent anicipated my movement right,the can outplay me more frequently.
From this video:hm i find when doing a Bh serve, I am not as vulnerable to some quick counterattacks compared to a FH serve which comes then fast looped or even a killshot to my BH,I get the sense that I have more oversight of the opponents motions..but you are right,might be preferences.
I guess some pros mix it in to disrupt the opponents assumption of his Fh servers if the opponent has already a "feeling" or worst figured your serves out.
This may all be objective,but I am with you that when doing a Fh serve ,at least I am more ready and faster to counter/stay in motion with my own Fh,but i think this is also a technique and speed assumption.
But i find it harder when i am already in Motion/movement and the opponent anicipated my movement right,the can outplay me more frequently.
I chose the first serve to show the sequence:
Toss is falling: