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    Is MXP-50 too hard for backhand?

    For topspin oriented players, would MXP 50 and other 50 degree ESN rubbers be too hard to use for backhand? or would it be kinda borderline, but still viable?

    I know most players probably like the BH side in the 45-47 range.

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    1. The golden answer is: It depends.

    2. Are you able to use 50 on FH?

    3. If not, why do you want use for BH?

    4. Are you asking for yourself or as a general question for no one in particular.

    5. If asking for yourself, refer to Q1 & Q2.

    6, If asking for no one in particular, then refer to statement No. 1.

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    I'm asking mostly for myself. But assuming that I'm not an exception, I think the answer would be somewhat standard for most topspin oriented players.

    I usually use DHS 40 degree on FH. So does that correspond to 53 ESN?

    I like ESN 47 very much on BH, but not sure if 50 would be too much. I believe Dignics is 50 degree ESN, and I don't find it too hard at all. It feels excellent on BH. Would MXP 50 feel similar to Dignics?
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    It depends on rubber. Some rubber play softer or harder than their rated counterparts. Some ESN rubbers feel crispy while others have more dwell... It all depends. I have not tried MX-P, but I do find that GoldArc8 50 deg to be a little too stiff for my liking.

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    Mike.

    Do you intend to play BH from faraway table like Caldorano? Yes, you may try 50 degree. No, why make your life miserable.

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    Check out Dan’s video playing with Kreanga…

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    #7
    Quote Originally Posted by Lazer
    Check out Dan’s video playing with Kreanga…

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    You mean this one? Is Dan or Kreanga using the MXP 50?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Michael Zhuang

    You mean this one? Is Dan or Kreanga using the MXP 50?

    I think he is talking about this video that kreanga says he prefers tenergy 05 fxhttps://youtu.be/AI1CXa8BQc8

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShoutGuy

    I think He talking about this video that kreang says he prefers tenergy 05 fx
    https://youtu.be/AI1CXa8BQc8

    Ok. But what does Tenergy 05 fx have to do with MXP-50?

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    The difference in hardness of course…
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    #11
    Ok. But my question is: is MXP 50 suitable for BH? Is it similar to Dignics, which is also 50 degree?

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    As long as the given hardness of a rubber actually only relates to the hardness of the sponge,these kind of questions are IMO futile as they can not be answered to anyone's satisfaction.sorry

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    Since you asked, For your level it’s waaay to hard.
    Why torture yourself at this hardness you will loose more on soft hits than you gain on hard hits.To get spin you need to be fully committed with good acceleration…
    You would be much better of with a softer rubber.

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    Just a suggestion to Mike:

    1. Do you have access to MX-P rubber? I'm sure you do coz or else you would not be thinking about it yes? A friend, perhaps, a club-mate maybe has it?
    2. Use it on the BH side.
    3. Video it and share it with us and we can better comment.

    See, for a worthwhile conversation, it is as easy as 1-2-3.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gozo
    Just a suggestion to Mike:

    1. Do you have access to MX-P rubber? I'm sure you do coz or else you would not be thinking about it yes? A friend, perhaps, a club-mate maybe has it?
    2. Use it on the BH side.
    3. Video it and share it with us and we can better comment.

    See, for a worthwhile conversation, it is as easy as 1-2-3.

    Ive hit with mxp and dignics on backhand many times. Its very comfortable for me. So assuming mxp 50 is the same level of forgiveness as dignics 05 or 80, then im sure i would like it on bh.


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    #16
    Quote Originally Posted by Michael Zhuang
    For topspin oriented players, would MXP 50 and other 50 degree ESN rubbers be too hard to use for backhand? or would it be kinda borderline, but still viable?

    I know most players probably like the BH side in the 45-47 range.

    i'm cool with 50 deg esn on my backhand.

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    #17
    Quote Originally Posted by Michael Zhuang
    Ok. But my question is: is MXP 50 suitable for BH? Is it similar to Dignics, which is also 50 degree?

    for me yes.
    I used to train 30+ hours a week, so no problem for me.

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    #18
    Ive read here and there than mxp 50 feels softer than 50 degree suggests. If true, i might be able to use it as well.

    With Dignics 05, i would never even have guessed that it is 50 deg. I wouldve just though 48.

    On the other hand, i recently tried nittaku hammond z2. That indeed felt noticeably stiffer. It was fun to hit with, but i might be a little worried about using it in match for the varations of shots needed.

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    #19
    Quote Originally Posted by Michael Zhuang
    Ive read here and there than mxp 50 feels softer than 50 degree suggests. If true, i might be able to use it as well.

    With Dignics 05, i would never even have guessed that it is 50 deg. I wouldve just though 48.

    On the other hand, i recently tried nittaku hammond z2. That indeed felt noticeably stiffer. It was fun to hit with, but i might be a little worried about using it in match for the varations of shots needed.

    Don't worry, one day you will find your excalibur

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    And the final championship battle fight match is between:

    Chinese Vs. ESN rubbers

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