2024 Chinese Super League roster is out

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True. His Main Problem is definitely going to be the amount of up- and coming players with Chen Yuanyu, Huang Youzheng and Wen Ruibo.

I do think, that the CNT is sharing investment fairly equally besides their main prospects. Li Hechen could become one of them as he already gets special treatments in U15. But he is more likely to jump onto the main team when Liang Jingkun gets too old. Most younger mentioned players will probably not get heavy investments since Lin Shidong is already up there. But as I said, only 4-6 players will get the chance to play Main Events.
3 Spots are taken already by Fan Zhendong, Lin Shidong and Wang Chuqin. For the next year Liang Jingkun is also safe due to current WR.

That makes Xu Yingbin competing with 3 very strong u20 youngsters, Xiang Peng and probably still Lin Gaoyuan for at most 2 spots on the A-Team in 2025 (Ma Longs spot, and currently Lin Gaoyuan is in defense)

If we take a look at the January line ups for WTT. Exactly this race is now on. CNT sends
Xiang Peng, Xu Yingbin, Chen Yuanyu, Huang Youzheng, Wen Ruibo
along with Zhou Qihao (who also might still make the team for 1 or 2 years but imo rather unlikely)

Whoever is getting above Lin Gaoyuan and into the top 10 first is going to be the winner of this race. As soon as someone reaches the necessary seeding, it will be very hard for others to take his place. The high seeding for Top 10 players not only opens up easier routes to points in main events it also allows access in general, while other players will more often be restricted due to NER, and if they do get a Wild Card, the draw can still be critical.

Lin Gaoyuan has the head start with his seeding but is in my opinion too shaky at the moment so he might still drop out in 2025.
agree

so having said that, XYB should play more in Pro A, and establish his own career there
 
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so having said that, XYB should play more in Pro A, and establish his own career there
Yeah, it’s highly unlikely that he’ll make the main team but he’ll make a decent living by playing in Pro A and CTTSL
 
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Fan Zhendong vs Wang Chuqin
WCQ is in full EJ mode :)
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Google translate of the video title says "Rematch in the 2024 Table Tennis Super League" ...
The uploader simply just wanted views, this was in 2020, and at that time WCQ was simply using Viscaria
 

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Kihara wins it again....

WYD should really retire, doesn't make any sense for her to go LA 2028 anyways. Instead she's only blocking her younger teammates' chances.
Being a literal Kasumi at this rate had she not retired during the Paris 2024 race:rolleyes::rolleyes:
 
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XYB 3 vs FZD 0.

How not to lose 0-3? You are a BH dominant player, but today you tried to play like ML and stand in a FH dominant position. Confused brain....

NB: Putting flame resistant suit on. Troll mode on!
 
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XYB 3 vs FZD 0.

How not to lose 0-3? You are a BH dominant player, but today you tried to play like ML and stand in a FH dominant position. Confused brain....

NB: Putting flame resistant suit on. Troll mode on!
As others wrote before he was harassed by his fans at his hotel till midnight the night before so he had a bad sleep affecting him physically and mentally. That’s the reason for such a drastic loss.
 
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If he performs, he will get his chance. My point is that if he was seriously better, it would.be showing up in many places. He wouldn't lose to Xu Xin either lol.
People tend to forget that before LSD, the two most recent breakouts into the top 5; Wang Chuqin and Wang Yidi did that around 23 years old.
It's easy for certain man to castigate the team, but if the players are not doing as well as the team intends, what are they supposed to do? Send them to you to refine them. Irrespective of whatever their performance is, everyone of them still has team duties. It's up to each and everyone to step up eventually.
 
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yes, and no matter what XYB does, he is already too old like piligrim said.
XYB will never be groomed to be the next Olympian, and we all know that is one of the disadvantages of CNT

I still remember there was a season where ZY did so well, but that doesn't equates to more internationals for him.
and with what happened to Chen Meng, we all know favoritism still plays a huge role in terms of cnt, just like how it was in the 90s

so these out of favor guys, should just go and do their business for teams that cherish them
including Chen Meng
the tt world doesn't evolve around cnt, and european leagues are great places to allow players to have freedom favoritism
What happened to "CM" also happened to FZD and ML but I don't see you referencing them here all the time.

As usual, you're invoking things that happened in the past that the organisation has tried to repair to be fairer and more professional and projecting your prejudiced impression on the team here.

Why should CNT groom XYB to be the next Olympian when there are 5 other members of the team doing better than him as a whole, and there are 30 members on the A Team
What has Xu Yingbin done to stake his claim for the spot apart from beating his team mates once in a while?
He had his chance at the ATTC again Tomokazu, why didn't he take it.
Please apply this logic that you claim it's difficult for rational members here to see.
 
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What happened to "CM" also happened to FZD and ML but I don't see you referencing them here all the time.
show me proof the CNT leadership was pissed off at FZD or ML for winning.
then maybe I will agree that what happened with CM is the same with the other 2 you called.

PS. XYB isn't good enough, so CNT will only groom him to be a practice partner, so I'm happy you agree with me there.
 
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I like to comment on this, from a point of view of how I understand CNT

People tend to forget that before LSD, the two most recent breakouts into the top 5; Wang Chuqin and Wang Yidi did that around 23 years old.

WCQ was like FZD, they both enter A team at a very young age, and were already favorites or should I say, candidates to step up.

Yes, history has shown the "candidates" might not always succeed, including one that was fired around the age of 18 or 19 years old, but I can say XYB is not one of those that was served on a golden platter.
WCQ was handled with golden support if I can call it such.
LSD too, especially that CNT has seen an issue with transitioning from old to new eras of players.

Irrespective of whatever their performance is, everyone of them still has team duties.
This is so true in CNT and no where else can this culture can be found.

everyone in the team has their duties. It is to win, or help the ones "chosen" to win. That is the ultimate duty of the team.
The team comes ahead anything else, including your own career.

It's up to each and everyone to step up eventually.
I will say this is 50-50 of the time.
there is too much fractions within CNT.
If you got the wrong coach, your chance of being the favorite is going to be slim. So that is why they are is a saying within CNT B team, is to make sure you get picked by the "correct coach". Then you are half way there.

There are already few incidences of 2 womens players that did step up and I felt they have been mistreated, or surely treated poorly, even though they are huge assets to the team.
namely Chen Meng and Wang Manyu. Both are there with merits, win with merits too, but have they fallen out favor or did some other player supersede them in that packing order?

so I don't believe CNT isn't a place where there is huge fairness for players that step up and thus so, even less for those that don't or can't step up.
It is all for the best interest of the team and from a democratic view point - who decides on what is "the" best interest for the team is? is it 1 person, or is it a panel or is it all the coaches? I leave it there for all to decide.

CNT has indeed become a lot more humane over the years, but the shot calling still remains the same imo.
and that is just life in the CNT as I am trying to point out. Its a strong system, but most of the team are there to be servants of the selected few.

and maybe just sometimes, without that burden on your shoulder, it could actually make you play freely.
like LGY was behind 10-2 and came back with 10 points on the trot to win at the champions league match. We normally know LGY to be on the receiving end.
Just maybe, he needs that freedom of no pressure. As mental problems within table tennis is still a very hidden matter and hardly discussed.
Lets just see if he would play more in leagues post retirement (which will be soon imo).
 
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