about knee surgeries

[Reaper]

Hello,

i wanted to know if anyone on the forum has had knee surgery (ACL for example)?, how much time do you need to recover after a surgery, and be able to play again?

I'm still waiting for my diagnosis, but i'm expecting the worst.

 

[Takkyu_wa_inochi]

Hello,

i wanted to know if anyone on the forum has had knee surgery (ACL for example)?, how much time do you need to recover after a surgery, and be able to play again?

I'm still waiting for my diagnosis, but i'm expecting the worst.

are you sure you need a surgery in the first place ?

 

[Reaper]

are you sure you need a surgery in the first place ?

like i mentioned am waiting for my diagnosis, had an appointment with orthopedist who gave me some medicine for the time being but he told me that surgery could be possible, i have to go thru many hoops with health insurance first, to get an MRI to see what's wrong.

 

[NetProphet]

Hello,

i wanted to know if anyone on the forum has had knee surgery (ACL for example)?, how much time do you need to recover after a surgery, and be able to play again?

I'm still waiting for my diagnosis, but i'm expecting the worst.

I've had the ACL repaired on both knees, one in 2013 and the other in 2017. I had successful surgeries both times by an excellent surgeon in both cases, so I was lucky.
One of these included a torn meniscus and a ruptured outer ligament, the LCL so the rehab was extensive but applying my rehab program and assuming successful surgery you're looking at weekly physio, appx 10 wks to walking without crutches and 6 mths minimum before doing anything that puts any torsional load on the knee. I was 6 mths before doing more advanced physio to strengthen everything and a full year before playing football again.
Given the stress the knees endure when playing TT I'd imagine it's similar timeframe before you'll be playing like you were prior to the injury.
I'm sure you could mess about and play without too much footwork much sooner than that though, maybe at 5 or 6 months even.
The 12 mths was before all muscles supporting the knee were back at full strength so football was no longer huge risk.

 

[pedro.dantas]

I've had MPFL reconstruction with tibial tubercle osteotomy, i had to use crutches for 4 months, my leg got really weak, i felt pain for 2 years, but now i can do everything with no limitation.

 

[Zezima]

I have inner meniscus tear. Anyone else had the same issue? my non dominant leg(left knee). I only have slight discomfort when I sit on my left knee (not during but after when I stretch it or stand up) ortopedic appointment is 1 month from now on. Since I barely have any pain just a slight discomfort on the tendon close to it maybe 2/10 I still play tabletennis. I don't feel any pain during tabletennis. Also no pain when going upstairs or downstairs. Still scared since I have this for over 6months

 

[Sherpa]

I had a meniscus repair done and the recovery was reasonably quick, walked out of the hospital the same day and was playing carefully after about 2-3 weeks. I also have had a knee replacement since and was playing again after 3 months. I had a knee reconstruction [ACL] many years ago and the recovery was like 6 - 12 months

 

[Zezima]

I had a meniscus repair done and the recovery was reasonably quick, walked out of the hospital the same day and was playing carefully after about 2-3 weeks. I also have had a knee replacement since and was playing again after 3 months. I had a knee reconstruction [ACL] many years ago and the recovery was like 6 - 12 months

chatgpt says I dont need anything like no repairs nothing. I really hope it won't get worse but then again it didn't really get worse last 6months but it got chronic.

 

[Marcelo Augusto]

Há 20 anos rompi o ligamento cruzado de ambos joelhos, em razão do futebol, e fiz a cirurgia de recontrução. Na época foi empregada uma técnica que hoje é ultrapassada, pois a forma como o ligamento era posicionado anos depois poderia desencadear um quadro de atrose. Mas era o que havia na medicina naquele momento. Para resumir, hoje eu tenho exatamente esse quadro de artrose, que me traz limitações para alguns esportes (futebol nunca mais). Tênis de mesa eu pratico bem, pois o deslocamento lateral me favorece.
O conselho é que você tente evitar ao máximo a cirurgia, pois um joelho operado nunca será o mesmo, e pode te trazer problemas a longo prazo, como aconteceu comigo. Se o seu médico sugerir a cirurgia, tente ouvir outras opiniões.
Agora, não sei se está desenvolvido aí no seu país, mas existe um novo ramo da medicina chamado medicina regenerativa, que é tentar reparar o tecido ligamentar sem uma cirurgia.
Eu fiz há 4 meses atrás a colocação de celulas tronco em ambos os joelhos, e o resultado até agora é excelente. No meu caso não vou conseguir recuperar toda a cartilagem, que já está desgastada há vários anos, mas obtive cerca de 50% de melhoria na mobilidade, e 70% em enrijecimento. O médico me disse que já fez esse procedimento em jogadores de futebol profissional com ligamento rompido, e eles voltaram a jogar sem necessidade da cirurgia.
Enfim, acho que vale a pena você pesquisar sobre isso.
Boa sorte.

 

[Federal_Agent]

Hello,

i wanted to know if anyone on the forum has had knee surgery (ACL for example)?, how much time do you need to recover after a surgery, and be able to play again?

I'm still waiting for my diagnosis, but i'm expecting the worst.

I had it done twice, once on each knee, and I suggest you don't worry about it... do the surgery as soon as possible so that you can have a healthy joint and train intensely again.
Full recovery takes approximately 8 months, however, in 4 months you will be doing strength training in weightlifting and some movement on the table.

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[Reaper]

I had it done twice, once on each knee, and I suggest you don't worry about it... do the surgery as soon as possible so that you can have a healthy joint and train intensely again.
Full recovery takes approximately 8 months, however, in 4 months you will be doing strength training in weightlifting and some movement on the table.

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thanks for your responses.

 

[Sherpa]

It's very unlikely that a meniscus tear will heal over time as they have a very poor blood supply. However if you keep playing there is a really good chance it will get worse, so I would suggest you get it looked at while the 'tear' is not too bad and recovery time will be a lot quicker.

 

[Zezima]

It's very unlikely that a meniscus tear will heal over time as they have a very poor blood supply. However if you keep playing there is a really good chance it will get worse, so I would suggest you get it looked at while the 'tear' is not too bad and recovery time will be a lot quicker.

thats also what chatgpt says but my appointed is in 3 weeks. Couldn't get it earlier. I also don't want OP and sit out for many weeks or months even.

But it said I might consider "Arthroscopy"

 

[ttarc]

Arthroscopy might be necessary to actually see the damage. MRI and CT can miss some damages.
Depending on the damage (getting a second opinion could be a good idea) I would also suggest getting surgery to prevent later problems like osteoarthritis.

 

[Zezima]

Arthroscopy might be necessary to actually see the damage. MRI and CT can miss some damages.
Depending on the damage (getting a second opinion could be a good idea) I would also suggest getting surgery to prevent later problems like osteoarthritis.

Arthroscopy is not to see the damage per se but to repair it. open knee surgery would be a bigger thing that I would like to avoid. It would take longer to recover aswell.

 

[NetProphet]

Arthroscopy is not to see the damage per se but to repair it. open knee surgery would be a bigger thing that I would like to avoid. It would take longer to recover aswell.

Forget chat gtp, forget what people in here recommend and forget short term convenience.
Get it looked at by an expert and if they recommend an operation to have it tidied up now then do that.

 

[Zezima]

Forget chat gtp, forget what people in here recommend and forget short term convenience.
Get it looked at by an expert and if they recommend an operation to have it tidied up now then do that.

yeah I will.

 

[beeray1]

Depending on what the problem ends up being, I'd shout out exploring the option of PRP Therapy as a potential alternative. It's used to treat osteoarthritis but also connective tissue injuries, and is less invasive. I had never heard of it, but an older Japanese woman I was coaching put me onto it. She was a professional badminton coach for years, but couldn't do it anymore due to osteoarthritis in her knees and hips. She got treatment, and then I didn't see her until a year later when I randomly spotted her coaching badminton again. She told me it felt like she had new knees.

I'm currently doing this for my knee which has been a big pain point for me - I have osteoarthritis in both the medial and lateral compartments of my knee, and Grade 4 Chondromalacia in the patellofemoral compartment. I'm still in the recovery window from my first treatment so I can't give my personal experience of how good/bad it was but I've since talked to a number of people and never heard anything but positive experiences.

 

[S2000]

Arthroscopy is not to see the damage per se but to repair it. open knee surgery would be a bigger thing that I would like to avoid. It would take longer to recover aswell.

Hello,

I had really severe knee problems. After RMI it showed tears on meniscus. They were though very reluctant with surgery. I got in contact with a sports medicine therapist and got treatment - consisting of three times cortison injections into the knee combined with physiotherapy - main part of physiotherapy therapy were squats from no weight until finally 50+ and 70 kg. To be observed is that the ligaments were intact and little wear on the knee otherwise. It now seems that the meniscus was successfully healed - however the weight physiotherapy was for me the icing on the cake that made it. It took me though more than a year to recuperate. Finding really suitable shoes was also a key thing. However, every injury is unique so wishing you good luck.

 

[DrBean]

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thanks for your responses.

When we give out recovery times, understand it's based on large collections of data. If I tell you it takes 9 months to recover from an ACL graft, that takes into account a large population with very low selection criteria. I can tell you that if you're athletic, you tend to recover quicker - a variety of factors play into this not least of which your diligence in therapy.

Arthroscopy is not to see the damage per se but to repair it. open knee surgery would be a bigger thing that I would like to avoid. It would take longer to recover aswell.

I'm not sure open knee surgery is performed for ligamentous repair anywhere now.

The best advice I can give both of you is this: whether or not you need surgery, start PT immediately, preferably with a sport specific PT. I can also tell you that the hamstring is the most protective muscle of the ACL.

In addition, ACL/PCL tears always have concurrent meniscus injuries. If you understand the anatomy it's easy to understand why this is the case. Don't be alarmed if that's also a finding.

Depending on what the problem ends up being, I'd shout out exploring the option of PRP Therapy as a potential alternative. It's used to treat osteoarthritis but also connective tissue injuries, and is less invasive. I had never heard of it, but an older Japanese woman I was coaching put me onto it. She was a professional badminton coach for years, but couldn't do it anymore due to osteoarthritis in her knees and hips. She got treatment, and then I didn't see her until a year later when I randomly spotted her coaching badminton again. She told me it felt like she had new knees.

I'm currently doing this for my knee which has been a big pain point for me - I have osteoarthritis in both the medial and lateral compartments of my knee, and Grade 4 Chondromalacia in the patellofemoral compartment. I'm still in the recovery window from my first treatment so I can't give my personal experience of how good/bad it was but I've since talked to a number of people and never heard anything but positive experiences.

The literature is inconclusive about PRP injections for osteoarthritis. In my opinion it's more in the realm of can't hurt or nice to have.