Andro Nuzn 50 and 55

[Fedex78]

Have you tried K3 before? Can you compare C53, ZGX, and K3? Are these rubbers largely the same to each other?

Hey Tensor, I'm sure I've already answered the same question made by you in another thread. Anyway, since my K3 sheet is probably not reliable (most reviews praise it for its performance and control instead mine was difficult to control even if it was fast) I would compare for you C53 and ZGX. C53 and ZGX are pretty similar (same hardness 53 degrees and both slightly tacky) BUT C53 is a bit faster, a bit more difficult to control, a bit less throw (I'd say medium high for ZGX and medium high- for C53) than ZGX. C53 is definetly better on counter topspin than ZGX, but ZGX is fine on counter topspin. Also C53 is capable of bit better backspin on pushes and serve.

 

[TensorBackhand]

Hey Tensor, I'm sure I've already answered the same question made by you in another thread. Anyway, since my K3 sheet is probably not reliable (most reviews praise it for its performance and control instead mine was difficult to control even if it was fast) I would compare for you C53 and ZGX. C53 and ZGX are pretty similar (same hardness 53 degrees and both slightly tacky) BUT C53 is a bit faster, a bit more difficult to control, a bit less throw (I'd say medium high for ZGX and medium high- for C53) than ZGX. C53 is definetly better on counter topspin than ZGX, but ZGX is fine on counter topspin. Also C53 is capable of bit better backspin on pushes and serve.

How is the speed of K3 vs zgx and C53?

Personally I feel dragon grip is much faster than zgx. So i wonder where K3 falls

 

[Fedex78]

How is the speed of K3 vs zgx and C53?

Personally I feel dragon grip is much faster than zgx. So i wonder where K3 falls

K3 is faster than zgx and same speed of C53 for me.

Dragon grip i have never tried it

 

[TensorBackhand]

K3 is faster than zgx and same speed of C53 for me.

Dragon grip i have never tried it

So why do you choose ZGX? You don't want the extra speed?

 

[Fedex78]

So why do you choose ZGX? You don't want the extra speed?

Because I don't need the extra speed that C53 has, ZGX has plenty of speed and spin and also has a big pro: I can control it with full confidence, I can make all kind of shots without worrying too much about the angle of my racket. This is very important to me in official match play.

I'm selling my sheet of NUZN 50, black, used 1 hour only, 158x151mm cut. PM me if interested.

 

[TensorBackhand]

 

[TensorBackhand]

He said the rubber produces more spin and arc...sounds like my type of rubber.

 

[vossi39]

you completely forget to mention the second part of the story...

...produces more spin and arc, if played by a Top player (which we all are) and compared to C53. Which does not really say much, how it would compare to H3, D09C at el.

 

[timdm]

Recently switched to a Nuzn 50 (it was on sale ;-) ), coming from a Tibhar Hybrid MK Pro.

Plays very similar to the MK Pro, with some minor differences:

• feels a tad softer, but also a bit slower, although high-end speed comes pretty close to the MK pro
• +++ it's easier to "pick up" a push ball by using a slow spinny topspin, this is something I struggled with when using the MK. The Nuzn feels slightly less "dead" and easier to engage.
• +++ better service quality, easier to serve short and spinny, here also the sponge is easier to engage
• --- blocking was harder than with the MK. The MK is super solid but the Nuzn feels a bit bouncier. Not Andro-R47-bouncy-as-hell or bouncy like a classic (non-hybrid) rubber, but still...

I think my findings map pretty well with what @Airoc is saying in this thread...

Rubber is not sticky at all, as in I can't roll a ball and lift it, even fresh out of the package.

I have no experience (yet) with other hybrid, so can't compare to C48/C53, Bluestar, K3, Dignics, ...

Cheers!

 

[Punching Feline]

Andro Nuzn 55 is on 30% sale on tt11 for this week, I'm using 7 ply clipper(koki niwawood), is this rubber, worth buying for an intermediate player? How does perform compared to rakza z, glayzer 09c and K1?

 

[Pidoa]

Andro Nuzn 55 is on 30% sale on tt11 for this week, I'm using 7 ply clipper(koki niwawood), is this rubber, worth buying for an intermediate player? How does perform compared to rakza z, glayzer 09c and K1?

It’s very hard, takes some power to activate it. Feels faster than rakza Z and glayzer 09c. Not sure about K1.

There are hybrid rubbers that are easier to use.

 

[Scarfed Garchomp]

Andro Nuzn 55 is on 30% sale on tt11 for this week, I'm using 7 ply clipper(koki niwawood), is this rubber, worth buying for an intermediate player? How does perform compared to rakza z, glayzer 09c and K1?

RZ, G09C and (I assume) K1Euro are all softer and slower than Nuzn55 but easier to activate. Nuzn does have pretty good grip but it is essentially nontacky. You need a hard impact to get the best out of Nuzn55 but the performance yield is much higher.

 

[Arlo]

Revival? Anybody more experience the last months? I played against this rubber yesterday (50 I think) and was surprised a couple of times by the amount of spin it generates. I landed multiple balls in the net even though with my t05fx I'm no stranger to underspin and actually that's how I usually get a lot of easy points.

As I find my timoboll with t05fx quite jumpy is this a possible option? Even though on paper a harder (esn) sponge compared to butterfly

 

[P1ngP0ng3r]

I'm using nuzn 50 on my FH for a couple of months and the topsheet still looks good. The amount of spin is definitely above average. Although it can be a bit.. unpredictable. Sometimes I think I play with a lot of spin but opponent plays the ball easily and sometimes I think there is no spin and opponent pushes deep under in the net or blocks way over the table.

I'm not a fan of hard rubbers but nuzn 50 doesn't feel like 50 degrees to me and feels softer. Pretty high arc when playing topspin.

I keep playing nuzn 50 for this season but will give Omega 8 pro or China a try as well. (Just to feed my inner EJ)

 

[Airoc]

Although it can be a bit.. unpredictable.

That sounds unusual. I have never had any other rubber that does so exactly what I want it to do, and does exactly what the feeling at the moment of impact tells me.

I agree that it doesn´t feel very hard compared to other 50 degree sponge rubbers, but as a step onwards from 05fx a previous test might be indicated, or at least some time to get used to it - not change on a Friday and play a match on Saturday ;-)

 

[vvk1]

I've been using Nuzn 50 on my BH for just over 2 months, playing 2-3 times a week plus 3 tournaments. The topsheet is still almost pristine, very little change in terms of spin generation when using pure topsheet brushing. The sponge, however, definitely feels somewhat softer and more linear/harder to activate the catapult effect compared to the first couple of weeks with the rubber. Still, I'm very happy with the rubber and will keep it on for at least another month. Regardless of when it dies, a new sheet of Nuzn 50 is waiting to be glued on.

 

[joshmak10]

I ordered a NUZN 55 for both sides of my new blade Syntelliac VCI, which will be my alternate setup unless I like it more than my current setup. Will test and see how it goes once it arrives.

 

[Airoc]

NUZN 55 for both sides of my new blade Syntelliac VCI

Excellent choice.

 

[joshmak10]

My VCI and N55s arrived today. Will test it on Sunday night to see how it feels and share back details

 

[joshmak10]

I tested my N55's and VCI today for about 5 hours. Here are my thoughts

Forehand
Compared to my usual H3, NUZN felt quicker and less spinny, but I could still produce a great amount of spin with very good speed. It felt very easy to get high quality loops. Where I was quite surprised about was how much easier it was to loop underpin compared to H3. I get a lot of safety and way more speed with the N55. The combo of VCI and N55 feels perfect for me on FH as I have a lot of control still with great spin and speed. Only problem for me still is just getting used to the feeling as I am used to H3, but this is normal.

Backhand
I am quite used to hybrid rubbers on BH, so it felt very natural to use N55 on my BH. Great speed and spin and very easy to control BH loops. Looping underpin is less easy than with my usual D09c, but easier than D05 IMO. BH flicks are very good with this blade and rubber combo as well, flicks travel spinny and safely over the night giving my partner a lot of trouble,

Serve and Receive
Serving with the N55 took time to adjust as it is more bouncy and less spinny than H3. Once I got used to it, serves are low and spinny but I found it a bit difficult to do dangerous topspin serves. It just feels like the bounce is too much for me on those serves, but Im sure Ill get used to it. Receiving is pretty good, but it is less easy than H3 and a bit more spin sensitive too. But it was not too much of a problem for me to keep my receive short and low over the net.

Blocking
Blocking felt easier than H3 and 09c. They travel with good speed and are very easy to place wherever you wish. I do prefer D05 for blocking.

Conclusion
This rubber and blade setup is very good for me! It has fantastic speed and spin but still very easy to control. Arc is very safe, but not as high as 09c which i personally think is better for my game. I recommend this rubber for intermediate and above who play an attacking topspin game.