Any top level Pro using all wood blade?

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Most Ebony and rosewood species are extremely dense and hard woods, with hugely high Janka scores and high inherent mass.When you're using this class of hardwoods, a composite layer is entirely unnecessary. Blades like the Ebenholtz lack absolutely nothing for hitting power, as very high density wood veneers are typically stronger and stiffer than 0.35mm of carbon fibre could ever be (or at least most Australian hardwoods are anyway 😂😂).

[NB: As aside point, I gotta say, these style of hardwood blades are horribly underrated IMO. People still go crazy over novel composite fabrics in a blade, while novel hardwoods often don't get a look in. This is quite nuts frankly given the strength to weight ratios some of these woods have.
I'm with ya. I just bought this Yasaka Silverline 9 Ply all wood blade. I have no interest in carbon at the moment but interested in faster all wood to see what they're like.
I haven't tried it yet, looking fwd to seeing if I'm actually able to use it!
 
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I'm with ya. I just bought this Yasaka Silverline 9 Ply all wood blade. I have no interest in carbon at the moment but interested in faster all wood to see what they're like.
I haven't tried it yet, looking fwd to seeing if I'm actually able to use it!
That’s a very fast blade faster than all my carbon blades. You won’t find many allwood blades faster than this. I got one it’s waay stiff very little dwell time, not the best looper. Great smasher though and blocker if you can handle the speed…

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That’s a very fast blade faster than all my carbon blades. You won’t find many allwood blades faster than this. I got one it’s waay stiff very little dwell time, not the best looper. Great smasher though and blocker if you can handle the speed…

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Thanks for that info 👍
I'm expecting it to be too much but it depends really, I picked up my MLEO again 6 mths ago after finding it far too quick 2 yrs earlier and I was surprised how much control I had with it, my technique had improved a lot since I had last played it.
The looping game will be interesting. I love looping and have worked hardest on it for 2 yrs but tbh I find myself in situations where smashing and flat hits win me even more points, there are no loop rallys at my level and loaded spinny loops are problematic for most opponents so hopefully I can execute the slower loops and gain advantage from the speed for other shots.
It's the short game that'll decide it one way or the other I expect. Can see a big struggle there!!
 
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Thanks for that info 👍
I'm expecting it to be too much but it depends really, I picked up my MLEO again 6 mths ago after finding it far too quick 2 yrs earlier and I was surprised how much control I had with it, my technique had improved a lot since I had last played it.
The looping game will be interesting. I love looping and have worked hardest on it for 2 yrs but tbh I find myself in situations where smashing and flat hits win me even more points, there are no loop rallys at my level and loaded spinny loops are problematic for most opponents so hopefully I can execute the slower loops and gain advantage from the speed for other shots.
It's the short game that'll decide it one way or the other I expect. Can see a big struggle there!!
Put a slow rubber on there, it might work for ya…

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i'm not sure what is Stiga's strategy, but they stood away from composite for many years and lost a lot of market share when composite too favorite with the big ball.
end of the day, Stiga haven't recovered that portion imo
I agree -- Stiga were huge in the 1980s and 90's --now they're just a shadow of their former selves.

Not sure why they lost their way, but I believe a failure to continue innovating is part of it. 🤔 There's so much space to innovate with blades that still hasn't been touched -- even just within the all wood blades space (which was always their traditional strength), there's so many area that haven't been addressed yet.

A big drop in production standards is also partially to blame here.'I'm currently doing a rebuild of sorts on an Ebenholtz for a mate of mine. The main panel veneers are in good nick, but the handle section is frankly nothing to write home about. Stiga hollowed out the handle section of the playing surface underneath the handle scales, but the rebate isn't centred properly on the blade's axis of symmetry (! 🤯).

As it's offset from the Centerline by about 2-3mm, one side of the handle is inherently thinner and weaker than the other. The glue they're using on their handle scales leaves a lot to be desired too. The off-centre rebate and weak scale glue combined blade would have meant the blade could have snapped on him without warning if I hadn't spotted it (not that it was hard to miss 🙄).

The fact this blade left the factory in this state tells me two things:

1. Stiga aren't using a CNC router to hollow out their handle scales. This was done on a regular router, and one with poorly adjusted jig stops at that -- a CNC machine or properly aligned router jig would not have made such an error possible.

2. Their internal quality control is really poor. Whomever is inspecting their blades at the factory between stages really dropped the ball on this one!
 
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I agree -- Stiga were huge in the 1980s and 90's --now they're just a shadow of their former selves.

Not sure why they lost their way, but I believe a failure to continue innovating is part of it. 🤔 There's so much space to innovate with blades that still hasn't been touched -- even just within the all wood blades space, there's so many area that haven't been addressed yet.


A big drop in production standards is also partially to blame here.'Im currently doing a rebuild of sorts on an Ebenholtz for a mate of mine. The main panel is fine, but the handle section is frankly nothing to write home about. Stiga hollowed out the handle section of the playing surface underneath the handle scales, but the rebate isn't centred properly on the blade's axis of symmetry (! 🤯).

As it's offset from the Centerline by about 2-3mm, one side of the handle is inherently weaker than the other. The glue they're using on their handle scales leaves a lot to be desired too. The off-centre rebate and weak scale glue combined blade would have meant the blade could have snapped on him without warning if I hadn't spotted it (not that it was hard to miss 🙄).

The fact this blade left the factory in this state tells me twn things:

1. Stiga aren't using a CNC router to hollow out their handle scales. This was done on a regular router, and one with poorly adjusted jig stops at that -- a CNC machine or properly aligned router jig would not have made such an error possible.

2. Their internal quality control is really poor. Whomever is inspecting their blades at the factory between stages really dropped the ball on this one!
i agree on innovation and quality control.
they loss a big market share in China and Europe and it wasn't an instant, but over a decade, year by year.

pre 40+ balls, so many top pros using Stiga blades
now... only Truls it seems and he is composite version
 
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About Stiga, i was going to buy from them more and more before but i had the bad experience with the first blade, and when i read also negative reviews about something else from them i just decided i won't buy from them again, it wasn't about innovation, but about QC, now i am thinking about giving them another chance with their new models, mainly that Cybershape, they have a new all wood one, i want to try that and see if they are like fixed their old mistakes or not.
 
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i agree on innovation and quality control.
they loss a big market share in China and Europe and it wasn't an instant, but over a decade, year by year.

pre 40+ balls, so many top pros using Stiga blades
now... only Truls it seems and he is composite version
Hana Goda too. Stiga did well in the era where all wood was still feasible, they got too cute with the carbon blade technology and being mysterious it seems. They don't even make it clear what exact carbon or fiber is in the Cybershape.
 
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Hana Goda too. Stiga did well in the era where all wood was still feasible, they got too cute with the carbon blade technology and being mysterious it seems. They don't even make it clear what exact carbon or fiber is in the Cybershape.
Stiga never really focused on composite until recent few years and were behind the race.
Viscaria for example is how old - older than Hana Goda by almost double
 
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