Basalt Fibre

[Its_c0mplex]

The latest super fibre being used in blade manufacture seems to be basalt fibre. Specifically, the Loki Telson CNF and RXTON 9Pro CNF both use a layer of basalt fibre reinforced with carbon nanofiber.
Aside from the fact that this is going to be confusing for us because cellulose nanofibre bats were already using the CNF tag, Loki's marketing department is not as good as Butterfly and so I have trouble finding much about the supposed properties of basalt CNF (aside from the usual promises of great power with great control).
General research on basalt fibre seems to indicate it has similar properties to carbon fibre. Better under compression , worse under tension. Not sure how the carbon nanofibre is supposed to modify this.
Does anyone know much about it?
Or have you played with one and can compare to carbon and/or cellulose CNF blades?

 

[Westy]

The latest super fibre being used in blade manufacture seems to be basalt fibre. Specifically, the Loki Telson CNF and RXTON 9Pro CNF both use a layer of basalt fibre reinforced with carbon nanofiber.
Aside from the fact that this is going to be confusing for us because cellulose nanofibre bats were already using the CNF tag, Loki's marketing department is not as good as Butterfly and so I have trouble finding much about the supposed properties of basalt CNF (aside from the usual promises of great power with great control).
General research on basalt fibre seems to indicate it has similar properties to carbon fibre. Better under compression , worse under tension. Not sure how the carbon nanofibre is supposed to modify this.
Does anyone know much about it?
Or have you played with one and can compare to carbon and/or cellulose CNF blades?

I played that basalt blade 10 years ago. https://soulspin.de/en/table-tennis...ith special,and well controllable ball strike.

 

[Its_c0mplex]

I played that basalt blade 10 years ago. https://soulspin.de/en/table-tennis-material-advice/wood-types-playing-characteristics/basalt-blade-structure-properties/#:~:text=Basalt – offensive racket with special,and well controllable ball strike.

Wow. I had no idea that basalt blades had been around for so long. I guess the new part then is the carbon nanofibre that's been added? Or is that old tech too?

How did the blade feel? And where does it sit power wise?

I noticed that the one you linked had an inner structure whereas the Loki blades both have an outer structure. I would assume that these loki blades have a bit more then.

 

[Westy]

I played also the carbon blades from soulspin with similar compositions, I would say basalt felt a tad less stiff a tad softer and a tad slower than the carbon version. A friend of mine plays a yinhe basalt blade this in comparison feels dead and stiff only. The soulspin basalts are much nucer and lively. The trajectory was medium low, when I remember it correct. I switched from spruce outer carbon to koto outer carbon from soulspin. Would be interesting how a basalt koto version would do.

 

[ML fan]

The latest super fibre being used in blade manufacture seems to be basalt fibre. Specifically, the Loki Telson CNF and RXTON 9Pro CNF both use a layer of basalt fibre reinforced with carbon nanofiber.
Aside from the fact that this is going to be confusing for us because cellulose nanofibre bats were already using the CNF tag, Loki's marketing department is not as good as Butterfly and so I have trouble finding much about the supposed properties of basalt CNF (aside from the usual promises of great power with great control).
General research on basalt fibre seems to indicate it has similar properties to carbon fibre. Better under compression , worse under tension. Not sure how the carbon nanofibre is supposed to modify this.
Does anyone know much about it?
Or have you played with one and can compare to carbon and/or cellulose CNF blades?

I am curious regarding the Cellulose NanoFiber until I bought FZD CNF. I have tried also loki cnf and stuor cnf before, I believe that FZD CNF have more control than both, but I think can produce massive spins in services, pushes and loops that I never seen before in all of my 30+ blades. I can match it with a 1 ply hinoki without the springiness.
So, the CNF in loki is not cellulose nanofiber?

 

[merlin el mago]

For you is better CNF than 1 ply Kiso Hinoki?

 

[ML fan]

For you is better CNF than 1 ply Kiso Hinoki?

For me, on short games, both are so control, but hinoki sometimes is springy if you are not have a good touch, the CNF is rigid or not bouncy.
But hinoki i think is crispy and faster if you love hard hitting or powerlooping.