Best Chinese sticky rubbers that don't need boosting

[merlin el mago]

Watching this interesting thread thanks guys to make it possible.

@Zwill
I suggest to edit the first post accordingly all feedback received so will be more easy to get information instead to read all the thread, thanks.

 

[DBsystem78]

Did someone try the 729 bloom series ? does it require booster to perform thanks

 

[Double_Trouble]

Would Friendship Battle 2 National blue sponge (38) pair well with Xiom Fuga and/or Nittaku Latika?

 

[lennn03]

Any of these for backhand

 

[DBsystem78]

After just gluing the Rxton 9 National 39 to a yinhe v14 pro the sensation is very good I didn't boost it , took out the glue from the manufacturer to put DHS 15 x2 / x1 on blade. Ill try it again tomorrow , maybe it's factory boosted ?

 

[belllfador]

Any of these for backhand

In theory, B3 purple and LAC can be used for BH. Both have a higher throw than H3N and are not so demanding. I briefly tried B3 purple 40 deg on BH and was surprised by the lifting power, exceeding H3N OS. Unfortunately, the block and chop near the table are too high, or my hand can't adjust fast enough.

 

[Zwill]

I feel like H3 Turbo Blue is just amazing. It's as heavy as the weight of life but god damn it feels good to play with it.
First of all it doesn't feel hard. It feels quite soft and bouncy, like I don't even get it. It is firm, but so soft and eats the ball like nothing else. Not even a greatly boosted H3BS eats the ball so well and holds it so firmly.
The topsheet is just among the very best. Competing with B3 topsheet if not better. I never had any H3BS at this level.
The sponge is very transparent and firm, it holds the balls most stable, the topsheet has amazing grip and elasticity and the Nittaku H3 topsheet doesn't oxidize much tbh, like it's totally different to other H3 topsheet.

I think the most disturbing thing is that this should be a very hard rubber but in fact it eats the ball easily and it's bouncy too, very bouncy.

The 2nd and 3rd ball attack is amazing, smash is amazing, don't need to pull the bull much because the topsheet and sponge strenght gives a natural arc even if you don't pull the ball. I would say it's a very easy to use rubber.

Weight sucks, it's really heavy. But after listening to ZJK about their 200+g rackets, this might be a good solution and I start to feel a heavy racket has benefits on backhand too and stability for blocking etc etc. I guess over some adjustment the heavy weight can be acceptable or even desirable.

I do wish NIttaku would reimagine this rubber with a similar but lighter sponge.

 

[suds79]

So I've recently had two training sessions of Loki China Arthur. $24 so it's pretty affordable.

Granted I'm coming off a stint where I rolled the dice on Yinhe Mercury 2 which is actually okay but yeah there's a spin difference here for sure.

I really like it (the Loki I'm talking here). Didn't boost it. Don't feel like messing with that anymore. Right out the package it could pick the ball off the table and hold it for about 10 seconds. The sponge is medium to firm (softer sponge would hold it even more I imagine) and the spin quality is really good.

In my last training session there were a few balls that were just below the height of the table, I looped with speed and the ball cleared the net and curved down in time to hit the table. Definitely with my old rubbers this would have gone long so that's when I knew the spin & quality was higher.

IDK. It has only been two sessions but if you're looking for a discount (think I paid $24 before shipping) H3 type, I mean look no further. I'm pretty impressed.

 

[piligrim]

So I've recently had two training sessions of Loki China Arthur. $24 so it's pretty affordable.

Granted I'm coming off a stint where I rolled the dice on Yinhe Mercury 2 which is actually okay but yeah there's a spin difference here for sure.

I really like it (the Loki I'm talking here). Didn't boost it. Don't feel like messing with that anymore. Right out the package it could pick the ball off the table and hold it for about 10 seconds. The sponge is medium to firm (softer sponge would hold it even more I imagine) and the spin quality is really good.

In my last training session there were a few balls that were just below the height of the table, I looped with speed and the ball cleared the net and curved down in time to hit the table. Definitely with my old rubbers this would have gone long so that's when I knew the spin & quality was higher.

IDK. It has only been two sessions but if you're looking for a discount (think I paid $24 before shipping) H3 type, I mean look no further. I'm pretty impressed.

You paid too much. Here its $17:

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005006317309591.html?spm=a2g0o.order_list.order_list_main.56.bad41802zuih4U

 

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[suds79]

You paid too much. Here its $17:

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005006317309591.html?spm=a2g0o.order_list.order_list_main.56.bad41802zuih4U

Yeah that is cheaper but in this particular case I wanted it sooner and I got to support a supplier here in the US so I'm fine with it.

 

[Hurricane AON]

I have found the truly almost chinese style hybrid rubber (Doesn't need booster). That is "Xiom Vega China+"

 

[Egon]

I feel like H3 Turbo Blue is just amazing. It's as heavy as the weight of life but god damn it feels good to play with it.
First of all it doesn't feel hard. It feels quite soft and bouncy, like I don't even get it. It is firm, but so soft and eats the ball like nothing else. Not even a greatly boosted H3BS eats the ball so well and holds it so firmly.
The topsheet is just among the very best. Competing with B3 topsheet if not better. I never had any H3BS at this level.
The sponge is very transparent and firm, it holds the balls most stable, the topsheet has amazing grip and elasticity and the Nittaku H3 topsheet doesn't oxidize much tbh, like it's totally different to other H3 topsheet.

I think the most disturbing thing is that this should be a very hard rubber but in fact it eats the ball easily and it's bouncy too, very bouncy.

The 2nd and 3rd ball attack is amazing, smash is amazing, don't need to pull the bull much because the topsheet and sponge strenght gives a natural arc even if you don't pull the ball. I would say it's a very easy to use rubber.

Weight sucks, it's really heavy. But after listening to ZJK about their 200+g rackets, this might be a good solution and I start to feel a heavy racket has benefits on backhand too and stability for blocking etc etc. I guess over some adjustment the heavy weight can be acceptable or even desirable.

I do wish NIttaku would reimagine this rubber with a similar but lighter sponge.

I've been wanting to try Turbo Blue for a while, but the weight is intimidating. How much do your rubber weigh when cut? In principle, I have a blade with a very low balance and a small head (150x157mm), I could try
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[CPH_Tiny]

I've been using the Big Dipper Pro Blue Sponge without booster for around a year (I've changed it once) and I would say it's the best rubber I've used. I get a lot of consistency and more than enough speed. And I'm using it on a 7-ply all wood blade, so it's not the blade that's giving me the speed.

 

[merlin el mago]

Speed it's a combo of blade + rubber + skills...

 

[Zwill]

I've been wanting to try Turbo Blue for a while, but the weight is intimidating. How much do your rubber weigh when cut? In principle, I have a blade with a very low balance and a small head (150x157mm), I could try
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About 65g, it's definitely intimidating. Surely it is for G-cup+ lovers hhhh

 

[Scarfed Garchomp]

I've been wanting to try Turbo Blue for a while, but the weight is intimidating. How much do your rubber weigh when cut? In principle, I have a blade with a very low balance and a small head (150x157mm), I could try
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Whatever overall racket weight you are comfortable playing with, ask yourself if you could handle 10-15g on top of that

 

[Larshos]

I've been using the Big Dipper Pro Blue Sponge without booster for around a year (I've changed it once) and I would say it's the best rubber I've used. I get a lot of consistency and more than enough speed. And I'm using it on a 7-ply all wood blade, so it's not the blade that's giving me the speed.

Pro as in the 9035(P)L version?

 

[Zwill]

Whatever overall racket weight you are comfortable playing with, ask yourself if you could handle 10-15g on top of that

I'm sooo considering getting a hovering dragon for BH since it's sub 45g and just go with H3 turbo blue on FH. Still a heavy setup but like it feels so good to use the turbo blue.

Nittaku pls reformulate the sponge to be lighter 🙏 55-58g would be good enough hhh

 

[CPH_Tiny]

Pro as in the 9035(P)L version?

Yeap, that one. Haven't tried the national versions. This one seems good enough.