Caronavirus & Tokyo 2020

[zeio]

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...ntial-olympic-delay-sources-say-idUSKBN219083

TOKYO (Reuters) - Tokyo 2020 organizers have started drafting possible alternatives to holding the Olympics this summer, two sources familiar with the talks said, in contrast to the Japanese government’s stance that postponement is not an option.

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“Finally, we have been asked to make a simulation in case of a postponement,” said one of the sources, an official close to the organizing committee who is involved in drafting the scenarios.

Both sources spoke on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to speak to the media.

“We are making alternative plans - plan B, C, D - looking at different postponement time-frames,” said the official, adding the scenarios included cost estimates for different delays.

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The options, which include scaling back the Games or holding them without spectators, would be debated by the organizing committee at the end of March, the official said.

The second source, who is also close to the Tokyo 2020 organizing committee, confirmed that postponement was being discussed, including delays of one or two years.

Some organizing staff were holding out hope for a delay of a month or 45 days, said the official involved in drafting the scenarios.

BOARD CONCERNS

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The official involved in drafting scenarios said a long delay could spark complaints from older athletes and require keeping sponsors on board for longer. Another headache is the Olympic village, due to be converted to flats after the Games.

The summer 2021 calendar is already crowded while 2022 will see the soccer World Cup and the Beijing Winter Olympics.

 

[igorponger]

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/03/20/health/pets-dogs-cats-coronavirus-wellness/index.html

The domestic animals are a prime concern as yet.

 

[Baal]

Igor, your comment is the exact opposite of what the experts in that article conclude.

 

[langel]

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/03/20/health/pets-dogs-cats-coronavirus-wellness/index.html

The domestic animals are a prime concern as yet.

You better pay attention to the behaviour of your medical authorities:

"The chief infectious disease specialist of the Stavropol Territory, Irina Sannikova, hospitalized with suspected coronavirus, hid her trip to Spain from the management and continued to go to work after returning. It is reported by RBC with reference to a police report.

According to the document, Sannikova went to Spain from March 6 to 9, and after returning she did not withstand the two-week quarantine. In the process, she contacted 13 foreign students and 11 employees of the department of the local university, where she teaches.


On March 17, Sannikov was hospitalized with suspected coronavirus, and her contacts were isolated. In connection with the incident, the police began checking criminal articles on negligence (part 1 of article 293 of the Criminal Code) and hiding information about circumstances creating a danger to human life or health (part 1 of article 237 of the Criminal Code).


On March 19, the regional Ministry of Health announced the first case of suspicion of COVID-19. It was about a woman who arrived from a country "where the incidence of a new coronavirus infection is noted." The first analysis showed a preliminary positive result. The governor of Stavropol Vladimir Vladimirov later specified that the patient was a doctor, she was placed in intensive care in a state of moderate severity.


On March 21, it became known that the first cases were opened in the Stavropol Territory due to a violation of the quarantine regime. “[For violation of the period of self-isolation] measures of an administrative and criminal procedural nature are provided. Yes, there are already initiated cases, ”said Yury Skvortsov, deputy head of the regional council on countering coronavirus infection. According to him, preliminary tests showed the presence of COVID-19 in 12 people in the region."

https://novayagazeta.ru/news/2020/0...ospitalizirovali-s-podozreniem-na-koronavirus


Don't beleive the Russian statistics.

 

[Vlad Celler]

langel

,,,,,Don't beleive the Russian statistics.

Unfortunately, I can only add - never trust the state statistics of the Russian Federation ... and even more so the media of the Russian Federation ....



(in the Far East of the Russian Federation - the border with China is many hundreds of miles .... In the same place, in the Far East of the Russian Federation, more than a million Chinese live permanently .... The borders were not closed on either side ... And not a single infected according to official statistics of the Russian Federation ..)

 

[Baal]

Not to mention a long border with Iran, closed now, but.......

 

[Dr Evil]

The International Olympic Committee said it would decide within four weeks whether to delay or scale down the Summer Games in Tokyo.

 

[UpSideDownCarl]

The International Olympic Committee said it would decide within four weeks whether to delay or scale down the Summer Games in Tokyo.

I am glad this decision is not in the hands of the government of the host nation.

I am hopeful they will make an intelligent decision based on the best information available before the deadline.

I doubt delaying a year or two would have anything other than a beneficial effect.

 

[Simas]

The International Olympic Committee said it would decide within four weeks whether to delay or scale down the Summer Games in Tokyo.

and 50000 Japanese gathered to see the Olympic flame coming to Japan. Seriously, wtf?

 

[brokenball]

(in the Far East of the Russian Federation - the border with China is many hundreds of miles .... In the same place, in the Far East of the Russian Federation, more than a million Chinese live permanently .... The borders were not closed on either side ... And not a single infected according to official statistics of the Russian Federation ..)

This is different from what is being reported here.
https://apnews.com/4ab3d1f101c55f376e204727e620afc4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kBCh5P3oiOI

There are ethnically Russian people living in China. This happened because Mao and Stalin were were very good at drawing lines on a map or maybe Stalin did care about the Russians living there.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fbJ7VM46QVs
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russians_in_China
I thought Vlad might be interested.

 

[Takkyu_wa_inochi]

Canada announced they wouldn't send their athletes to a 2020 summer olympics.

Abe just said in front of the parliament for the first time that Olympics might get postponed

 

[Baal]

I am glad this decision is not in the hands of the government of the host nation.

I am hopeful they will make an intelligent decision based on the best information available before the deadline.

I doubt delaying a year or two would have anything other than a beneficial effect.

Well, yes, except that it is the IOC. And that does not guarantee an outcome in the best interests of the athletes or the host nation.

 

[Janard]

Canada announced they wouldn't send their athletes to a 2020 summer olympics.

 

[MaLin2.0]

View attachment 21079

Australia too, good if Abe & IOC won't make expedited decision, we will do it for you

 

[zeio]

https://www.sankei.com/tokyo2020/news/200321/tko2003210005-n1.html

東京五輪「延期は困難」の声　会場・選考・経費…クリア厳しく
2020.3.21 20:36
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■選手選考はやり直す？

　「トップレベルの選手の状態が延期後も変わっていないかは疑問」。すでに代表選手が内定している競技団体の関係者はこう打ち明ける。選手たちは年齢やコンディションなど多くの要素に対し、五輪本番を見据えて調整している。中には、柔道や競泳のように、五輪に向けて十分な準備期間を確保するため、「早期内定制度」を導入している競技団体もある。

　４年に１度の大会に向け、心身の調整を続けてきた選手が、簡単に目標を先に切り替えることができるわけではない。

　また、陸上などのように一定期間内に参加標準記録をクリアした選手が出場資格を得る競技もあり、開催が延期となった場合は条件の再考も必要になってくる。ある競技団体の関係者は「数カ月の延期ならまだしも、１～２年の延期となれば、もう一回選手を選び直すのが現実的ではないか」と指摘する。

　一方で、すでに五輪代表に決まった選手の努力を無に帰すような結果になることに反対の考えもある。内定を勝ち取った選手が見直しを余儀なくされれば、スポーツ仲裁裁判所に訴えるケースも想定される。

Voices of "difficult to postpone" Tokyo Olympics - venue, selection, expenses...strictly clear
2020.3.21 20:36
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■ Re-selection of players?

"It's questionable whether the state of the top-level players has not changed after the delay," said the relevant personnel of the athletic group that has been determined to represent the players. Players are adjusting for many factors, such as age and condition, in preparation for the Olympics. Among them are judos and swimming, in order to ensure sufficient preparation period for the Olympic Games, have introduced "early internal selection" of competitive groups.

For the tournament once every four years, players who continuously adjust their bodies and minds cannot simply change their goals first.

In addition, there are competitions such as track and field that have passed the standard record within a certain period of time to qualify for the competition. If it is postponed, the conditions need to be reconsidered. A related person from a certain athletic group pointed out: "It's okay to postpone for a few months, if it is postponed for 1 to 2 years, wouldn't it be realistic to reselect players?

On the other hand, there are also objections that this will put an end to the efforts of players who have been designated as Olympic representatives. If the player who has obtained the internal selection has to reevaluated, it is conceivable a case will be brought to the sports arbitration court.

 

[Vlad Celler]

Canada announced they wouldn't send their athletes to a 2020 summer olympics.

Abe just said in front of the parliament for the first time that Olympics might get postponed

If I am not mistaken, then Australia too?

Sorry ... Above, MaLin has reported this ....

 

[MaLin2.0]

If I am not mistaken, then Australia too?

Sorry ... Above, MaLin has reported this ....

https://www.axios.com/canada-team-w...rus-322af032-42ad-4318-b197-601b9a28dd62.html

Australia pulled out, thank god
That's what needs to happen countries just need put pressure and boycott if needed, what good is a games without athletes?

More important things to prioritise than preparing for games most likely in self isolation.

 

[brokenball]

I think that Baal's post #20 is still correct.
The world is till in deep doo doo.
https://ncov2019.live/data
The mortality rate are still super high.
They are even higher if you ignore the bogus CCP numbers.

If you want to get a feeling for the math used to predict how a virus will spread then search for SIR epidemic simulation on YouTube. The videos show the basics.

 

[Dr Evil]

A more hopeful perspective (Pueyo, "Coronavirus: The Hammer and the Dance"), suggesting 3-7 weeks of heavy suppression will be enough to control the epidemic and allow for a more relaxed regime of extensive testing, contact tracing and isolation.

 

[UpSideDownCarl]

Well, yes, except that it is the IOC. And that does not guarantee an outcome in the best interests of the athletes or the host nation.

Or the people of the entire planet.

But, hopefully they will come to an intelligent decision. They may not. But we can hope.

And countries pulling out, could make the decision meaningless if enough countries withdraw.