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Stupid article. if globally several 100,000s die of coronavirus its a non-major event. People talk so much about it because there are fears of a scenario where this kills 100,000,000s .
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It is good that Australia likes my suggest rule even if Baal does not. I am sure he didn't like my rule because I thought of it first. Oh well. This is like TDS. Facts don't matter, only the source.
I agree with what takkyu_wa_inochi has been saying. This includes his statement about the deaths/(deaths+recovered) ratio. This ratio seems to be hanging in there at about 10% depending on where you get your numbers.
If I survive this I will be p!$$ed. Not only is it a threat to my health but it is also a threat to my supply chain. This will hurt business. The stock market took a big drop today. That hurts everyone with 401Ks unless you have all your 401K money in cash like I do. This is called a "black swan" event. I have been preparing for a while.
The WHO has been proven to be a bunch of idiots controlled by the CCP. They have not taken this virus outbreak seriously. The CDC hasn't been much better.
I said before, never under estimate the incompetence of governments and bureaucrats. People from Iran have infected other countries in the middle east.
I don't even believe our own government and news sources. MSM is fake news.
It is hard to tell who is telling the truth. Trust no one.
https://www.ccn.com/the-white-house-coronavirus-updates-are-just-as-phony-as-chinas/
I agree with what takkyu_wa_inochi has been saying. This includes his statement about the deaths/(deaths+recovered) ratio. This ratio seems to be hanging in there at about 10% depending on where you get your numbers.
If I survive this I will be p!$$ed. Not only is it a threat to my health but it is also a threat to my supply chain. This will hurt business. The stock market took a big drop today. That hurts everyone with 401Ks unless you have all your 401K money in cash like I do. This is called a "black swan" event. I have been preparing for a while.
The WHO has been proven to be a bunch of idiots controlled by the CCP. They have not taken this virus outbreak seriously. The CDC hasn't been much better.
I said before, never under estimate the incompetence of governments and bureaucrats. People from Iran have infected other countries in the middle east.
I don't even believe our own government and news sources. MSM is fake news.
It is hard to tell who is telling the truth. Trust no one.
https://www.ccn.com/the-white-house-coronavirus-updates-are-just-as-phony-as-chinas/
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One of the best French virologist announced today that an existing molecule (chloroquine) has been tested by Chinese doctors and seems to be very effective.
Don't know if its true or not, if there's enough medicine available for everyone before the stuff spreads everywhere... But that it is to say the situation is very dynamic and can change positively or negatively very quickly.
But IMHO the worst case scenarios are very likely and even if they are not so likely we should definitely prepare for those scenarios because we don't have a 2nd chance when they happen
Don't know if its true or not, if there's enough medicine available for everyone before the stuff spreads everywhere... But that it is to say the situation is very dynamic and can change positively or negatively very quickly.
But IMHO the worst case scenarios are very likely and even if they are not so likely we should definitely prepare for those scenarios because we don't have a 2nd chance when they happen
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At the risk of repeating myself: panic kills. Adding to that: so do conspiracy theories and sweeping incompetence claims.
Without taking away anything from the gravity of the situation: keeping a cool head remains important.
Without taking away anything from the gravity of the situation: keeping a cool head remains important.
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panic kills but lack of action and indecision kills even more. it could even make the whole of us an extinct race
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Yeah, I heard somewhere that choloroquine/plaquenil may be effective.
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Here, in Russia, all the National Badge umpires are now instructed to penalize players for smearing hands onto the table surface.
Safety first, indeed.
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This PDF is maintained by the HK government and gets updated multiple times daily.
https://www.chp.gov.hk/files/pdf/statistics_of_the_cases_novel_coronavirus_infection_en.pdf
https://www.chp.gov.hk/files/pdf/statistics_of_the_cases_novel_coronavirus_infection_en.pdf
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This is not actually a black swan. The possibility of a global pandemic is a known risk. It has happened before many times, and gets talked about every time a new communicable disease pops up.
Corona virus is just an event. Events happen every day. It may be a big event, but that doesn't make it a black swan. A black swan would be an event that everyone knows is not possible, or that was never even imagined, prior to it happening. These are quite rare.
Side note: Black Swan is not a great book. Fooled by Randomness is a great book.
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Good thing about chloroquine is it's cheap and easy to make and no longer patent protected. Some of the other drugs that might also work are more expensive. There are encouraging observations in small trials so far with at least three drugs. The key with viruses that cause acute respiratory distress syndrome it to start the drugs early
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Yup. Earlier the intervention, the higher the percentages of success for sure. Recovery is easier and faster when you start out with less oxidative damage to respiratory system.
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A "Black Swan Event" is an UN-anticipated event. The term "Black Swan" is used in my contexts but I was referring to the financial context. The markets are dropping and will drop more. The markets didn't anticipate this.
My company needs to put lots of profit share money into our employees 401K accounts. Do we do it now or do we wait until the market goes lower so our employees can buy even lower. I am betting that the market will go even lower. It makes a big difference to our employees.
Meanwhile, the WHO has lost confidence. It is easy to see they don't want to p!$$ off China.
This is a good source of news about the virus. The video also makes a comment about the Olympics.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LsnvfALlFX8
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The situation is not as bad in China now. Except for Hubei, the numbers have slowed down in other provinces the past few days. The pundits are confident to get it under control by April.
https://www.cgtn.com/special/Battling-the-novel-coronavirus-What-we-know-so-far-.html
https://www.cgtn.com/special/Battling-the-novel-coronavirus-What-we-know-so-far-.html
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Perhaps true, but probably more so of the ongoing climate catastrophe (6th mass extinction event, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holocene_extinction) than of the SARS-CoV-2 epidemic.
And I really don’t think it wise to equate staying out of panic mode (which is: to act with deliberation, rationally - hopefully) with passivity.
Perhaps true, but probably more so of the ongoing climate catastrophe (6th mass extinction event, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holocene_extinction) than of the SARS-CoV-2 epidemic.
And I really don’t think it wise to equate staying out of panic mode (which is: to act with deliberation, rationally - hopefully) with passivity.
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https://hk.appledaily.com/china/20200227/SCCHLSFFF573ZHTE73BJD7VF2I/
Zhong Nanshan, the leader of the high-level expert group of the National Health and Medical Commission, held a press conference in Guangzhou this morning and pointed out that the peak of the outbreak in Mainland China previously predicted should be in mid-February to the end of February. At present, the number of new cases has fallen, closer to the forecast as estimated by foreign authorities that China's control of the epidemic will be at the end of May, but he expressed that, given the strong intervention and the possible peak of the return trip after the Spring Festival, and under good measures, the country strives to control the epidemic by the end of April. Zhong Nanshan said that although the epidemic first appeared in China, its source may not necessarily be in China. HE also said that the number of new cases has been less than foreign countries. The number of cases in South Korea, Iran, and Italy has increased very quickly, and some Chinese measures could inspire them.
Status of China CDC is too low
Zhong Nanshan praised the role played by Guangzhou Medical University in the national epidemic prevention and control, but lamented that the status of China CDC was too low and its importance was not taken seriously. He said that the CDC is only a technical department under the leadership of the Health and Health Commission. In foreign countries, the CDC can report directly to the central government and even straight to the public. He said that from the early situation, there have been reports of infection by people and medical personnel, but the CDC can only report it and has no right to announce the epidemic to the public. He suggested that the CDC should have certain administrative powers.
Inconclusive on nucleic acid test going positive again
Recently, many recovered patients have been tested positive again after being discharged from hospitals. Zhong Nanshan expressed that a conclusion cannot be reached at present. He pointed out that, in general, the pattern of the viral infection is the same. As long as IgG antibodies are present in the body and that they have increased a lot, patients will no longer be infected by the virus. As for some residual viruses in the intestines and feces, patients have their own patterns. He believes that the key now is not whether they will be re-infected, but whether it will be transmitted to others. This needs to be closely observed.
COVID-19 causes very viscous mucus in the airways
He also mentioned that there is a difference between COVID-19 and SARS. In addition to common features such as pulmonary fibrosis, the disease has outstanding features: there is a lot of very viscous mucus in the small airways, which obstructs airway patency. "We haven't solved this yet, we are coming up with solutions." He pointed out that if the airway is obstructed, it'd be easy to cause secondary infection. The fatality rate of critically ill patients in Wuhan is close to 60%. Experts are trying to solve the problem of hypoxia. After trying some new methods in Wuhan, the dyspnea has improved.
80% of infectious diseases come from animals
Zhong Nanshan believes that nearly 80% of infectious diseases come from animals. Especially in the south, where wild animals are consumed, there is a lot of contact, and the virus carried by animals will be transmitted to humans. "The bad habits of consuming wild animals were originally not practiced, so why now?"
COVID-19 does not necessarily originate in China
Zhong Nanshan said that, in another stage, China may become an epidemic import destination. Therefore, it is necessary to strengthen international cooperation, joint prevention and control, timely communication of the development of the epidemic situation, and the development of effective treatment methods, and the situation will likely stop expanding. He said: "For the forecast of the epidemic, we first consider China, not foreign countries. Now there are some situations abroad. The epidemic appeared first in China, but not necessarily originated in China. Previous reports indicated the seafood market in South China may be a super-spreader, but not necessarily the source of infection! "
Prepare for epidemic prevention before returning to work
Regarding the current spike as people resume work, Zhong Nanshan believes that the forecast model previously predicted another spike after the return from Spring Festival. Now it is February 27, and the spike predicted by the expert team has not yet appeared. He pointed out that because the train must be checked when boarding on and off, the pattern of natural transmission of the virus has been interrupted, resumption of work should go ahead, but it must be implemented under strict arrangements.
He took Foxconn as an example, where tens of thousands of people resumed work in a 3,000 square meter area. The approach adopted was that workers needed to perform double tests, one being nucleic acid test, and the other being IgM testing. In addition, all factory faucets and pits must not be obstructed. There is no evidence that the virus is transmitted through the digestive tract, so it is still best to protect the respiratory tract.
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[Wuhan Pneumonia] Zhong Nanshan: Epidemic not necessarily originates in China and basically under control at the end of April
Zhong Nanshan, the leader of the high-level expert group of the National Health and Medical Commission, held a press conference in Guangzhou this morning and pointed out that the peak of the outbreak in Mainland China previously predicted should be in mid-February to the end of February. At present, the number of new cases has fallen, closer to the forecast as estimated by foreign authorities that China's control of the epidemic will be at the end of May, but he expressed that, given the strong intervention and the possible peak of the return trip after the Spring Festival, and under good measures, the country strives to control the epidemic by the end of April. Zhong Nanshan said that although the epidemic first appeared in China, its source may not necessarily be in China. HE also said that the number of new cases has been less than foreign countries. The number of cases in South Korea, Iran, and Italy has increased very quickly, and some Chinese measures could inspire them.
Status of China CDC is too low
Zhong Nanshan praised the role played by Guangzhou Medical University in the national epidemic prevention and control, but lamented that the status of China CDC was too low and its importance was not taken seriously. He said that the CDC is only a technical department under the leadership of the Health and Health Commission. In foreign countries, the CDC can report directly to the central government and even straight to the public. He said that from the early situation, there have been reports of infection by people and medical personnel, but the CDC can only report it and has no right to announce the epidemic to the public. He suggested that the CDC should have certain administrative powers.
Inconclusive on nucleic acid test going positive again
Recently, many recovered patients have been tested positive again after being discharged from hospitals. Zhong Nanshan expressed that a conclusion cannot be reached at present. He pointed out that, in general, the pattern of the viral infection is the same. As long as IgG antibodies are present in the body and that they have increased a lot, patients will no longer be infected by the virus. As for some residual viruses in the intestines and feces, patients have their own patterns. He believes that the key now is not whether they will be re-infected, but whether it will be transmitted to others. This needs to be closely observed.
COVID-19 causes very viscous mucus in the airways
He also mentioned that there is a difference between COVID-19 and SARS. In addition to common features such as pulmonary fibrosis, the disease has outstanding features: there is a lot of very viscous mucus in the small airways, which obstructs airway patency. "We haven't solved this yet, we are coming up with solutions." He pointed out that if the airway is obstructed, it'd be easy to cause secondary infection. The fatality rate of critically ill patients in Wuhan is close to 60%. Experts are trying to solve the problem of hypoxia. After trying some new methods in Wuhan, the dyspnea has improved.
80% of infectious diseases come from animals
Zhong Nanshan believes that nearly 80% of infectious diseases come from animals. Especially in the south, where wild animals are consumed, there is a lot of contact, and the virus carried by animals will be transmitted to humans. "The bad habits of consuming wild animals were originally not practiced, so why now?"
COVID-19 does not necessarily originate in China
Zhong Nanshan said that, in another stage, China may become an epidemic import destination. Therefore, it is necessary to strengthen international cooperation, joint prevention and control, timely communication of the development of the epidemic situation, and the development of effective treatment methods, and the situation will likely stop expanding. He said: "For the forecast of the epidemic, we first consider China, not foreign countries. Now there are some situations abroad. The epidemic appeared first in China, but not necessarily originated in China. Previous reports indicated the seafood market in South China may be a super-spreader, but not necessarily the source of infection! "
Prepare for epidemic prevention before returning to work
Regarding the current spike as people resume work, Zhong Nanshan believes that the forecast model previously predicted another spike after the return from Spring Festival. Now it is February 27, and the spike predicted by the expert team has not yet appeared. He pointed out that because the train must be checked when boarding on and off, the pattern of natural transmission of the virus has been interrupted, resumption of work should go ahead, but it must be implemented under strict arrangements.
He took Foxconn as an example, where tens of thousands of people resumed work in a 3,000 square meter area. The approach adopted was that workers needed to perform double tests, one being nucleic acid test, and the other being IgM testing. In addition, all factory faucets and pits must not be obstructed. There is no evidence that the virus is transmitted through the digestive tract, so it is still best to protect the respiratory tract.
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That will be good but I don't believe it.
Do you really believe it?
Why is China needing 14000 extra nurses?
China is even asking for foreign volunteer nurses.
China has a lot to answer for.
Some of the countries that aren't as 'controlled' will have a very tough time dealing with covid-19.
If this spreads to sub Saharan Africa the virus will spread like a wild fire in the wind.
Why is it that only the bats in Wuhan have this virus? Maybe it isn't the bats.
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Just the day after Trump said the US has it under control, a new case with no clear route of infection popped up and your man changed his tone.
Trump: Huawei poses a grave threat to the US national security. Boom, Crypto AG, where the CIA and BND had been spying over rigged equipment sold to over 120 countries, of course except China and Russia, since WWII until 2018.
I believe the US did this to sab0tage China just as much as China cultivated this in the lab in an attempt to wipe humanity off this planet. /s
Trump: Huawei poses a grave threat to the US national security. Boom, Crypto AG, where the CIA and BND had been spying over rigged equipment sold to over 120 countries, of course except China and Russia, since WWII until 2018.
I believe the US did this to sab0tage China just as much as China cultivated this in the lab in an attempt to wipe humanity off this planet. /s
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