Daily Table Tennis Chit Chat

[Archosaurus]

Long story but the screen name I made when I lived in Germany 15 yrs ago, the flag is when I registered for TTD, and living in USA... I had to exit the military one day.

Lived 20 yrs outside my country in military and it was a lot of great experiences.

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Not too bad serving in some of the biggest table tennis countries, eh?

 

[UpSideDownCarl]

....or that the way I write in english gets perceived as unfriendly and arrogant.

I can definitely fall into that category too. Don't worry. These guys are good peeps. If they let me get away with half of what I do....

Hahaha.

It's good to have you here as part of the club.



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[UpSideDownCarl]

Thank you! I have to ask now. You have a german forum name, use the korean flag and live in the US. How did that come about?

Hahahahaha. You are not the first to wonder this. But, if you ask, be prepared....because the answer has to do with the NSA, special forces, the pentagon, the NSA SpyPhone technology that he helped develop and capture and chase action drama about the goon squad jumping off the Brooklyn Bridge and the Secret Hideout that seems to have hidden entrances all over the world.


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[NextLevel]

I was seeded #2 in the Giant RR at my club and defended my seeding, though not without some interesting matches. I have been working on combining spin and power. I think my biggest lesson yesterday was that for an Euro rubber user, to use the ITTF terminology, "coating" the ball and "gumming" the ball are both important techniques. Most of my looping is coating but I switched to a gumming technique for the RR in the hope of playing better against topspin players. It ruined my performance against the pips players and slow ball players and I almost lost to a couple of them rated 300 pts or so below me. I will work on coating vs backspin and no spin and block and gumming vs topspin and block.

I called a timeout after winning a point in a tournament for the first time I can remember in my TT playing days. I think I now know how to speak to myself during timeouts and can make a difference in how I perform using my timeouts now. Thanks, TTEdge.

 

[Shuki]

Gumming and coating are not a term I've heard of. What is that? If the explanation is too long is there a link to an explanation


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[NextLevel]

Gumming and coating are not a term I've heard of. What is that? If the explanation is too long is there a link to an explanation


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http://www.tabletennisdaily.co.uk/f...ouTube-uploads&p=117412&viewfull=1#post117412

While that is the general idea, there are topspin motions that go around the ball, even when the contact is thick, and tospin motions that go into the ball, even when contact is thin. I tend to try to follow the contour of the ball as much as possible, which gives me heavy spin, but it increases the risk in my rally timing and makes me play slower vs certain opponents. I need more variation in my strokes so I can rally fast (speed) or slow (spin), depending on the opponent. When you get topspin, you don't really need to increase the dwell time but my current strokes don't consistently take advantage of that.

 

[NextLevel]

Footwork point of the match (Carl should know why, though the ball was faster than the ones I usually struggle with).

youtu.be/CDIzuOr1wNs?t=1088

 

[UpSideDownCarl]

Footwork point of the match (Carl should know why, though the ball was faster than the ones I usually struggle with).

youtu.be/CDIzuOr1wNs?t=1088

Sweet coverage coast to coast. Wide BH with the adjustment step to the ball and then the step to the wide FH with the flying dragon moving of the feet after you impaled the wide FH! Good stuff.

It looks like you are playing pretty well and the FH looks like it is getting better and better.

 

[ttmonster]

the guy was using long pips on the black side , isn't it ?

Sweet coverage coast to coast. Wide BH with the adjustment step to the ball and then the step to the wide FH with the flying dragon moving of the feet after you impaled the wide FH! Good stuff.

 

[Archosaurus]

It's funny because that shot looks like it went deep BH to middle of the table because NL is so damn tall, but it is indeed wide BH to wide FH, and probably not as easy as it looks.

 

[ajtatosmano2]

Today Lev Katsman (EU Youth Champs singles 3rd, mixed doubles 1st) came to my club for training. Our best youth player played 1-4 with him. Maybe tomorrow I also can have a chance.

 

[NextLevel]

the guy was using long pips on the black side , isn't it ?

Short pips both sides.

 

[NextLevel]

It's funny because that shot looks like it went deep BH to middle of the table because NL is so damn tall, but it is indeed wide BH to wide FH, and probably not as easy as it looks.

During the match, I thought it was standard stuff. After the match, my former coach thought it was a lucky shot. As my former coach, he doesn't see my footwork drills so I can't blame him.

I was practicing this footwork a while back and posted some video on this thread. Carl made an interesting point after watching the video, which was that I was always swinging while moving into position as opposed to getting to where I needed to get to before swinging. I got the positive part of his point, but part of the reason why this is important is that you often can't get to the ball on time if you don't swing while moving, and swinging while moving actually helps you put more weight behind the shot.

 

[UpSideDownCarl]

During the match, I thought it was standard stuff. After the match, my former coach thought it was a lucky shot. As my former coach, he doesn't see my footwork drills so I can't blame him.

I was practicing this footwork a while back and posted some video on this thread. Carl made an interesting point after watching the video, which was that I was always swinging while moving into position as opposed to getting to where I needed to get to before swinging. I got the positive part of his point, but part of the reason why this is important is that you often can't get to the ball on time if you don't swing while moving, and swinging while moving actually helps you put more weight behind the shot.

And your weight is moving directly into the ball as you take that FH because you are planted and then power from the legs during the stroke gives you the flying dragon feet. [emoji2]

You also land perfectly balanced and ready instantly to move for the next shot.

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[Shuki]

Any of you change your style when you change equipment?

Let me clarify. Do you:

Make your changed equipment fit into your style you've already been playing with?

Or

Make your style fit your new equipment.

Or is it a mix of the two


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[baumschule]

Any of you change your style when you change equipment?

Let me clarify. Do you:

Make your changed equipment fit into your style you've already been playing with?

Or

Make your style fit your new equipment.

Or is it a mix of the two


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Great question! I would also be very interested what others think. I don't know if my perspective is the best to answer this because I change my equipment very very rarely. Last time I changed something was in 2009 or 2010 I think when I switched Roxon 450 on my backhand for Hexer+. I can't remember that well but I'm sure up until that point I used my backhand more to setup my forehand. After that change my backhand became more a force of its own. Again I can't remember that well but I think I adopted a longer stroke with Hexer partly because I felt I wasn't getting the best out of it with the shorter stroke I used before. So I think it was a bit of both.

 

[NextLevel]

Obviously, most informed players pick equipment to suit their style. Mastering your equipment requires you to adapt to its subtleties.

The boost from equipment effects is usually limited and transient.

 

[UpSideDownCarl]

Yep. With any change in equipment you may need to adjust your strokes and your technique a small amount. But I am not sure changing equipment would have too much to do with changing your play style. You can change your style with the same equipment or when you change equipment. But if you are not changing something like smooth to pips in order to change your style, then changing something like MXP to T05 or vice versa and changing your style would be a cognitive choice and not something that has much to do with the equipment.

Like the example baumschule mentioned, I don't think that is changing style. If I am interpreting what he said correctly it is something different.

He had a rubber that did too much for him on his BH and his BH stroke was small and as a result it wasn't too powerful. He switched to a rubber that made him have to work just a little bit harder and take a fuller stroke, and all of a sudden his backhand technique improved and got more powerful.

This is an example of a backhand rubber that was a little more basic allowing his technique to improve rather than causing him to change his style. The improvement of technique was a logical progression that made him able to play more aggressively with his backhand because it got better.

It is actually part of the reason why it is often recommended to a player developing technique to use a All+/Off- control blade and rubbers rather than an Off+ blade with Tenergy.


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[Archosaurus]

From my perspective, I would change equipment when I feel that I can benefit from it and my style is developed enough in the direction I want to warrant the shift.

It'd be idiotic to change to a high end blade on high end rubber right now at this moment and try to adapt my style. It'd make more sense to upgrade step by step, with the minimum of time spent making mistakes and ingraining bad technique.

 

[DTopSpirit]

Any of you change your style when you change equipment?

Let me clarify. Do you:

Make your changed equipment fit into your style you've already been playing with?

Or

Make your style fit your new equipment.

Or is it a mix of the two


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I have done both over the last 15 years at different times, for different reasons, as I moved between playing as a traditional long range defender, two wing looper, and up to the table combi-bat player. During that time I have used both fast attacking blades (Timo Boll Spirit) and a slower chopping blade (Matsushita Pro Special).

In general though, I found that I had better results when I changed my equipment to suit my style, rather than changing my style to suit the equipment I was fond of.

Currently I'm using a mash-up of everything, with Curl P-2 long pips in 1.0mm sponge, Fortissimo in MAX, and my Matsushita pro special blade. But I'm now standing up at the table and attacking fast and furiously, with no going back to chop at all, and not much blocking with the pips - mainly driving and smashing. While looping hard and fast with the inverted. And twiddling a lot. Again, that combination of rubbers and blades has been chosen to suit the style I have been forced to play, which is why I think I'm doing quite well with it.

Cheers,
Greg