Daily Table Tennis Chit Chat

[Shuki]

By the way, some of you have noticed that I switched back to the Yasaka (Sweden) Extra. If you are wondering why, then I will clue you in. Guess what blade my opponent in this video is using (the rubbers are Tenergy 80 FX).

What am I missing? I didn't strike you as the kind of person to change equipment because someone else uses different equipment. So I feel there's another reason.
edit: figured it out! I'm a dumby. you gave him your eternity

 

[pgpg]

By the way, some of you have noticed that I switched back to the Yasaka (Sweden) Extra. If you are wondering why, then I will clue you in. Guess what blade my opponent in this video is using (the rubbers are Tenergy 80 FX).

Is that BRS you are playing against?

 

[NextLevel]

What am I missing? I didn't strike you as the kind of person to change equipment because someone else uses different equipment. So I feel there's another reason.
edit: figured it out! I'm a dumby. you gave him your eternity

LOL. I wish it was that straightforward. He is using a Butterfly Andrejz Grubba, an ALL+ blade. Now, I could also have gotten/used one, but I remembered how much I liked the Sweden Extra and why I left it for something faster. The other thing was that Brett stressed the importance of being able to block, flick and push short and that these things are generally easier with slower blades. So that was why I switched back to the Extra. As that guy hit me with heavy balls, I kept asking myself why I switched blades to a faster blade and couldn't give myself a coherent answer - yes, my shoulder can be an issue, but some of that really needs to be addressed with more core rotation and better technique.

 

[NextLevel]

Is that BRS you are playing against?

Yes, it is.

 

[Shuki]

Ahh, smart to change back then. I think both the eternity and the extra would be good for development with quite a bit of control. But you know your game better than anyone and you know exactly what you want from your equipment. You be also used enough equipment to understand pros and cons to changing to faster, slower, stiffer, more flexible, softer, harder blades.

I had given my coach a yasaka extra a while back and she loves it.


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[UpSideDownCarl]

On very wide shots, my recovery is pretty good and I'm in-position before the ball even hits the opponent's table, but I think there is a small window that can be abused on my half-distance cross-steps if the opponent is a good blocker.

Bullshit detector on full: red alert, bullshit has been detected.

You don't do CROSSOVER STEPS for short distances. They are something you resort to when you can't get there with one or two one-steps.

So, what are you actually talking about. And where is this supposed video?


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[Shuki]

What's a half distance cross step?


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[Ilia Minkin]

What's a half distance cross step?

For me it is when I have to do a one step, my brain gets confused and I do a cross step instead

 

[UpSideDownCarl]

For me it is when I have to do a one step, my brain gets confused and I do a cross step instead

That's funny. Hahaha. Good one.


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[Archosaurus]

"Half distance" for me is, about, 1.5m to 2m away. A "full" cross-step would be 2m+. Don't tell me you can cover 2m with shuffle steps when you need to return a fast shot that's a little too wide to your forehand. You can probably take one step and then reach for the ball, but I really don't like that.

So what exactly is wrong in what I'm saying? Is everyone shuffle-step pros and they can accelerate and decelerate themselves to incredible speed and I just don't know about it? Do you never, ever have to receive a wide forehand shot? I'm not taking the piss, I've just never, ever seen anyone who can do something like that without a cross step.

Windows decided to put my PC into a shutdown loop after failing to system recover, so I had to re-install. I'll probably post the video tomorrow when I've got everything else setup, because the crap I need to upload and convert the videos with from my phone isn't too high on my priority list atm. Although those aren't exactly good examples: they're the ones where my form is falling apart.

 

[UpSideDownCarl]

So, I was playing yesterday and this guy kept jamming me up at my switching point so I kept doing these close distance crossover steps to take the ball with my BH from the FH side so I could control the table better and get ready for behind the back and swap-hand shots. Because, by no means am I an expert at these techniques but I'd say I'm pretty good at them for my level. And in watching the footage I made of these training techniques which I deleted so I'd have more space, I can see that the form and the execution is exceptional for my level in spite of the fact that sometimes my legs bang into each other and the table and even my racket. But it doesn't happen so much and surprisingly not at all and almost never. But just frequently. You know.


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[Archosaurus]

So, I was playing yesterday and this guy kept jamming me up at my switching point so I kept doing these close distance crossover steps to take the ball with my BH from the FH side so I could control the table better and get ready for behind the back and swap-hand shots. Because, by no means am I an expert at these techniques but I'd say I'm pretty good at them for my level. And in watching the footage I made of these training techniques which I deleted so I'd have more space, I can see that the form and the execution is exceptional for my level in spite of the fact that sometimes my legs bang into each other and the table and even my racket. But it doesn't happen so much and surprisingly not at and almost never. But just frequently. You know.


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Carl, satire isn't good if you just exaggerate whatever was said. Be more creative.

Do you really think I'm banging my legs together or hitting the racket? How uncoordinated do you have to be to do that?

 

[Ilia Minkin]

That's funny. Hahaha. Good one.


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Yeah, for me it happens like that. I serve to my opponent's backhand and then move to my BH waiting to pivot and use my FH to open-up. If they push the ball to wide FH I make a full size cross-step. If they push to the middle of the table, I often make a baby-size cross-step. I know I should make a side step instead, it is just my mind that thinks if the ball goes somewhere to my FH I have to cross-over no matter what. A stupid habit that is hard to eradicate.

 

[UpSideDownCarl]

Carl, satire isn't good if you just exaggerate whatever was said. Be more creative.

Do you really think I'm banging my legs together or hitting the racket? How uncoordinated do you have to be to do that?

Hahahaha.

We want the video footage of these short distance crossovers.

Based on what you have said I doubt you are doing anything close to any of what you have described. I actually think it is as likely that you are doing the Lindsey or the Charleston as anything else.

But what made you bring up banging your legs together in the first place. I mean I got most of what I said from out of your posts.

Who does that on a crossover step?


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[Archosaurus]

Hahahaha.

We want the video footage of these short distance crossovers.

Based on what you have said I doubt you are doing anything close to any of what you have described.


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I want all my essential crap to download too, but there's only so much bandwidth available.


As a serious question: what do you think I am doing? A half assed shuffle step? Falling into the ball and stumbling?

 

[UpSideDownCarl]

I want all my essential crap to download too, but there's only so much bandwidth available.


As a serious question: what do you think I am doing? A half assed shuffle step? Falling into the ball and stumbling?

What I actually think is you have an active imagination and like to talk and then you get carried away with yourself.

When I was in my teens and twenties I had this friend who used to like to tell stories of his exploits when we would go out to bars.

If you ever heard his stories they would start out like, "I got into a fight with this guy and after I beat him up I stole his girlfriend." The next time he told it, there were some extra embellishments. After a few weeks the story was something like: "for some reason everyone in the bar was out to get me. After I took on twenty bikers singlehandedly, the bouncers and bartenders joined in and pretty soon it was me against the whole bar. And after I took them all down, the hottest girl in the bar, the hottest girl I've ever seen, well, her and I, you know."

So based one what you've said, I think you could have actually been doing crosscourt counterhitting with your heels firmly planted on the ground.

In the end it doesn't really matter though. Your vivid imagination is fun to read and definitely makes me laugh.


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[Archosaurus]

What I actually think is you have an active imagination and like to talk and then you get carried away with yourself.

When I was in my teens and twenties I had this friend who used to like to tell stories of his exploits when we would go out to bars.

If you ever heard his stories they would start out like, "I got into a fight with this guy and after I beat him up I stole his girlfriend." The next time he told it, there were some extra embellishments. After a few weeks the story was something like: "for some reason everyone in the bar was out to get me. After I took on twenty bikers singlehandedly, the bouncers and bartenders joined in and pretty soon it was me against the whole bar. And after I took them all down, the hottest girl in the bar, the hottest girl I've ever seen, well, her and I, you know."


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I don't understand how having a pretty good cross-step for a relatively very low level player is something comparable to taking on dozens of grown men in unarmed combat and wooing the hottest woman you've ever seen.

You didn't even let me get to the part where I cross-step counterlooped Ma Lin's opening loop like it was nothing!

 

[UpSideDownCarl]

I don't understand how having a pretty good cross-step for a relatively very low level player is something comparable to taking on dozens of grown men in unarmed combat and wooing the hottest woman you've ever seen.

You didn't even let me get to the part where I cross-step counterlooped Ma Lin's opening loop like it was nothing!

So, do you have an answer for what a short distance crossover step is aside from a mistake?

And the Ma Lin opening loop thing, to me it sounded like it was in there.


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[Archosaurus]

So, do you have an answer for what a short distance crossover step is aside from a mistake?

And the Ma Lin opening loop thing, to me it sounded like it was in there.


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A short distance cross-step is either a mistake, or when it's legit, it's just on the limits of "Do I cross step or shuffle step...". I am not a very good player with good eyes, and my cross step is confident enough, so I will usually cross step into the ball if I'm not entirely sure. My hitting zone is fine, and sometimes it adds pace if I step inwards. Should that be avoided?

A cross step is, well, when it's obvious that you'd benefit from doing it. When you need to clear a large distance. Wide BH to wide FH for example.

 

[UpSideDownCarl]

Here are the feet for going from deep BH to deep FH most of the time:

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