Daily Table Tennis Chit Chat

[NextLevel]

Thanks! I'll keep working it.

This just happened to me a few minutes ago, so I know I'm on the right path:

Hah! Mine didn't fly out quite that far, but it did come back and hit me on the shoulder somehow.

Yes, it is a great sign. The brain corrects for it eventually.

 

[NextLevel]

One way I adjust is to serve backspin very close to the handle while turning so it isn't as easy to block myself. Also is deceptive with a vertical finish.

 

[Archosaurus]

Hahah, that video. Why exactly does that happen in the first place?

 

[Shuki]

He just has a bad attitude - don't take what he says seriously.

That may have been the case at times, but he's usually really well mannered and respectful. Could have just been a bad day. I feel my words may have painted him in a negative lighting.

 

[Shuki]

Thanks! I'll keep working it.

This just happened to me a few minutes ago, so I know I'm on the right path:

Hah! Mine didn't fly out quite that far, but it did come back and hit me on the shoulder somehow.

my backhand serves do this on a regular basis. probably at least once every 3 matches. This was actually one of the main reasons I stopped using backhand serves too often.

 

[NextLevel]

That may have been the case at times, but he's usually really well mannered and respectful. Could have just been a bad day. I feel my words may have painted him in a negative lighting.

Whenever claims that the opponent's inferior quality of play is making them lose without accepting responsibility for their inferior ability to adjust, they make themselves look bad.

 

[UpSideDownCarl]

Hahah, that video. Why exactly does that happen in the first place?

I've done it before. The racket moves so fast that it passes the ball and then the ball catches up and bumps into the racket on the rebound of the whip so the blade is at a funny angle. But it can't happen if you don't have really fast bat speed. So come back when you figure that part out and then you can explain in detail the theory behind how it happened.

Sorry Archo, I couldn't resist. But that does happen with that serve every so often if you have that snap from your wrist.

 

[Archosaurus]

I've done it before. The racket moves so fast that it passes the ball and then the ball catches up and bumps into the racket on the rebound of the whip so the blade is at a funny angle. But it can't happen if you don't have really fast bat speed. So come back when you figure that part out and then you can explain in detail the theory behind how it happened.

Sorry Archo, I couldn't resist. But that does happen with that serve every so often if you have that snap from your wrist.

I can remember doing a handful of these, but I won't claim to understand why. The one I can remember clearly is when I served the ball right into a bystander's face.

So I take it that it's not a serious mistake?

 

[ttmonster]

Carl, its mostly, " somebody , please talk to me "

I've done it before. The racket moves so fast that it passes the ball and then the ball catches up and bumps into the racket on the rebound of the whip so the blade is at a funny angle. But it can't happen if you don't have really fast bat speed. So come back when you figure that part out and then you can explain in detail the theory behind how it happened.

Sorry Archo, I couldn't resist. But that does happen with that serve every so often if you have that snap from your wrist.

 

[Shuki]

Whenever claims that the opponent's inferior quality of play is making them lose without accepting responsibility for their inferior ability to adjust, they make themselves look bad.

That's why I feel I painted a negative light on him, anyone who beats him he always says was better. although he has an excuse to why he lost like "everything was so soft", it may be a complaint out loud, but it could just be his way of acknowledging why he's struggling.

Often when I come across someone who plays flat attacks and I have to go through the ball more, I may say "ugh there's no spin!" this doesn't mean I think they're bad or if they were good they would have put spin on the ball. This is me making a clear mental note so I don't treat their ball the same next time.

 

[Shuki]

I can remember doing a handful of these, but I won't claim to understand why. The one I can remember clearly is when I served the ball right into a bystander's face.

This totally happened. Since I know arch would never embellish the truth or lie, I believe you arch.

 

[NextLevel]

This totally happened. Since I know arch would never embellish the truth or lie, I believe you arch.

You are so mean... stop it!

 

[Archosaurus]

This totally happened. Since I know arch would never embellish the truth or lie, I believe you arch.

It's not on cam, so it didn't happen for all you can know. You don't need to point that out on every single thing I say. It just makes you look immature with your constant sarcasm.

Still, what's so hard to believe? Isn't it just a mistake?

 

[Shuki]

It's not on cam, so it didn't happen for all you can know. You don't need to point that out on every single thing I say. It just makes you look immature with your constant sarcasm.

Still, what's so hard to believe? Isn't it just a mistake?

I'm young, immaturity is part of my developing brain. I'll get through it someday

What's hard to believe is you asked how that can happen, and then apparently you've all of a sudden had this situation happen quite a few times, and to an extent where it hits someone in the face. That would make the beat the "worst serve video" by a long shot.

Sorry if you don't like my sarcasm, but you're not expected to like every personality trait. If you believe sarcasm is a bad personality trait, perhaps I should change the way I am? Perhaps I should write things like "Arch is a liar and nobody should believe a single thing he says since he has a past of being dishonest." I think the sarcasm is a nicer way of doing this and little less hostile than being blunt.

 

[Archosaurus]

I'm young, immaturity is part of my developing brain. I'll get through it someday

What's hard to believe is you asked how that can happen, and then apparently you've all of a sudden had this situation happen quite a few times, and to an extent where it hits someone in the face. That would make the beat the "worst serve video" by a long shot.

Sorry if you don't like my sarcasm, but you're not expected to like every personality trait. If you believe sarcasm is a bad personality trait, perhaps I should change the way I am? Perhaps I should write things like "Arch is a liar and nobody should believe a single thing he says since he has a past of being dishonest." I think the sarcasm is a nicer way of doing this and little less hostile than being blunt.

Well, for some context:

Often when I play, we will do a rotation. Winner stays, loser goes, next in line comes. There will be a large group of people standing on both of the sides of the table. Balls whack people in the face all the time. If the row of people wasn't right up there close to the table, I don't think it'd have hit anyone.

I'm not sure why you think I can't do something on accident without knowing exactly how it works, either.


You said it has happened to me quite a few times, yet I said that it had happened a handful of times. If handful means a large number, then I used the wrong word. Sorry. I meant that it has only happened a limited amount of times.

Man, this explaining is getting tiresome. You guys even accused me of trying to hide things in the videos I post. I guess I really am being played the fool.

 

[NextLevel]

I finished up 2016 with a little bit of punch serve practice. This is my first time seriously practicing this serve in probably 6 months, and I still consider myself at beginner at this serve. I badly need to develop a reverse sidespin serve short to the FH for 2017, since I currently don't have one. Both my BH serves and reverse pendulum serves are terrible.

I need to work on getting more whip, as well as showing the red side of the rubber to the camera in the follow through. I have a tendency to finish with the racket angle too open, as can be seen on the first 2 serves. I was able to correct it some later in the video.

Happy New Year Everyone!

IT's become one of my highest scoring serves and I have four versions of it, 2 for backspin, two for topspin/sidespin, inspired by a combination of all the three servers in the app. I might post some of video sometime to show my current status of it.

The turning looks good but I can't always tell what spin you are trying to get. I can often get a free point the first time I serve my backspin versions long as my opponent almost always puts it into the net. MY topspin ones need work in terms of disguise but it is getting better with practice -I just need to record myself more once my favorite camera is back in commission (I am not fun of using my current one).

As promised, here is the video. Still need to improve my consistency and control of the variations but it gives you an idea of what is possible for deception.

 

[UpSideDownCarl]

Hahah, that video. Why exactly does that happen in the first place?

I can remember doing a handful of these, but I won't claim to understand why. The one I can remember clearly is when I served the ball right into a bystander's face.

So I take it that it's not a serious mistake?

Either the first comment or the second comment ARE DISHONEST. If the second comment were true, the first comment should have read:

"Hahah, that video. I do that every so often. Why exactly does that happen in the first place?"

But it doesn't so, basically, Archo is full of it as usual. And, yes, Archo, the ball flying off to the side like that does mean something serious went wrong. But something else had to go well.

And you see, Archo, this kind of thing is why we consistently say you are dishonest. And why Shuki's reply is so entertaining. There is no way around it. Either the first comment is dishonest or the second one is.

 

[UpSideDownCarl]

Well, for some context:

Often when I play, we will do a rotation. Winner stays, loser goes, next in line comes. There will be a large group of people standing on both of the sides of the table. Balls whack people in the face all the time. If the row of people wasn't right up there close to the table, I don't think it'd have hit anyone.

I'm not sure why you think I can't do something on accident without knowing exactly how it works, either.


You said it has happened to me quite a few times, yet I said that it had happened a handful of times. If handful means a large number, then I used the wrong word. Sorry. I meant that it has only happened a limited amount of times.

Man, this explaining is getting tiresome. You guys even accused me of trying to hide things in the videos I post. I guess I really am being played the fool.

Archo, you are so full of it. Stop putting your foot in your mouth. You are only digging yourself in deeper and compiling the dishonesty.

 

[Raylazyfo]

What's hard to believe is you asked how that can happen, and then apparently you've all of a sudden had this situation happen quite a few times, and to an extent where it hits someone in the face.

@Shuki, UpsidedownCarl
The key is that Archo asked WHY, not how it can happen. As this is something that has happened to most people who've tried a tomahawk serve (myself included), I think he was looking for an answer like: "Because of the motion used, if you dont apply enough force or your arm is too slow, by the time you are at the end of the motion the ball has not traveled far enough and it ends up hitting the bat, flying sideways" His two comments are not mutually exclusive meaning this is not necessarily more proof of him being dishonest.

 

[NextLevel]

@Shuki, UpsidedownCarl
The key is that Archo asked WHY, not how it can happen. As this is something that has happened to most people who've tried a tomahawk serve (myself included), I think he was looking for an answer like: "Because of the motion used, if you dont apply enough force or your arm is too slow, by the time you are at the end of the motion the ball has not traveled far enough and it ends up hitting the bat, flying sideways" His two comments are not mutually exclusive meaning this is not necessarily more proof of him being dishonest.

Good to hear from you. I guess if it happened to you, you would be clueless as to why it happened.

The issue is not whether it happened or not to Archo (something probably happened, it may not have been this). The issue is that whatever phenomenon we discuss on this web board often just happens to have been something archo has experienced fairly soon after it was mentioned.

To be honest, I actually blame Carl for responding, and I think ttmonster indirectly said as much. Because even if this may or may not have been what happened to Archo, it is how Archo will interpret it.