Daily Table Tennis Chit Chat

[Der_Echte]

Being steady, not making mistakes, and placement of ball are the big three keys to win in doubles.

Being able to attack strong is a plus if partner is steady and gives good chances.

Not even playing with William my lefty doubles partner, I already like the chances.

The U2100 singles field is strong as well.

Overall, in the last one year, a very large chunk of the 1700 to 1900 crowd has improved a lot.

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[ttmonster]

I looked at the list , you might want to ask Voltaire ... Erick might be a good fit from what I see but he is already playing U3150 doubles at the same time so the TD will not allow it .. .not sure about the other players in that rating range ...

All George needs to do is be steady. If he doesn't go crazy attacking, Akul will put on pressure and make it easy.

Scoobie Doo had to withdraw from tourney, so I gotta get a partner for u4100 doubles. Prolly gunna be George or Johnny, who was on the other trouble makers team at the Chinese tourney.

Both you and David are steady and both of you attack. That can be tough... for the other teams.

I have seen teams with super strong player and low rated player fail. If lower rated player can receive serves and not make mistakes, that sq it ad us string. You saw how our team won vs Barney's team.

The partner I have for u3600 doubles is a true rated player, very steady. He is a lefty, I never played doubles with him before... but whatever.

In 2016 VA state championships, I never played with mytt jfolsen before either... and we won the doubles championship vs a team higher rated... by a good margin.

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[ttmonster]

Yes, I know the U2100 and U200 Adults field is loaded but I had no other option given the timing of the doubles ... don't know if I will be able to do any damage in singles , but at least they have to return my serves if and when I land them

Being steady, not making mistakes, and placement of ball are the big three keys to win in doubles.

Being able to attack strong is a plus if partner is steady and gives good chances.

Not even playing with William my lefty doubles partner, I already like the chances.

The U2100 singles field is strong as well.

Overall, in the last one year, a very large chunk of the 1700 to 1900 crowd has improved a lot.

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[Der_Echte]

I am not gunna sweat it too much about the U4100 doubles.

I will fight with whatever. I have played doubles with Johnny and George.

Both are playing at a better level recently.

George is a bit under rated lately.

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[Der_Echte]

Either way Monster, I plan on having hot stew and rice ready for after the tourney, not to mention fresh mint tea (I grow mint) and or cappuccinos.

That is, if the David/Olivia squad want that.

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[ttmonster]

Hmmmm .. .I am not sure they want ... and you know I prefer to drive back on an empty stomach to prevent nodding off on the wheel ...

Either way Monster, I plan on having hot stew and rice ready for after the tourney, not to mention fresh mint tea (I grow mint) and or cappuccinos.

That is, if the David/Olivia squad want that.

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[mart1nandersson]

I had a fun evening teaming up with the consul of Bulgaria (one of my clubs is based in a posh area). He had played at a fairly high level in the early 80ies which really showed as our doubles competition sported a division 2 player (Swedish ranking close to 2000) and we almost won. The consul played dual sided 802 SP and showed some amazing skills. I think that he hit backspin serves in the way that the Chinese call the “little smash”... attacking the ball with an open face quite violently. Our opponents were confused as hell. I hope that he returns to our practice as I would love to play against him myself (he rushed off due a phone call).

 

[OldschoolPenholder]

No videos yet. Sorry.

This 70 yr old Jpenner always beats me 3-0 in the past 3 or 4 yrs when we play.

Last week lost 3-1 all close games ... tonight winning 8 to 2 with the serve in first game, beat him at 4. Lost next 2 like 7 or 8 pts. Won 4th 8 or 9 points. 5th lost at 5. Lost steam and focus and he adjusted a bit better. I am still a little gimpy in left knee.

He has weaker serves than me... has a BH smash, FH loop and monster FH smash. But last week and tonight, able to keep him away from his strengths mostly. My FH loops are a little more steadier lately and coming back to me as i neglected it for a year to learn RPB. My RPB loops are landing in more, both loop drives and the slow high topspin loops. My RPB block and punch is much steadier than before. Still not relaxed enough but not rushing as much as I used to.

Despite losses, I am happy that I am playing deeper into the point, moving the ball side to side, steadier opening loops (not good on followup loops yet), timely FH smashes. Another factor in my better gameplay may be I'm starting to push again. With new grip it was hard for me to push and keep ball low for whatever reason. Lately practicing pushing and during gameplay, my pushing has allowed me not to rush to loop where in the past I forced myself to loop 2nd or 3rd ball and often losing the point.

I may have to ask for 8 points instead of 9 from suds, monster and JeffM

 

[Takkyu_wa_inochi]

@NL saw your drill video. I was quite impressed. good consistency while doing the drill with speed + power. even when the ball was going wide to the FH, you managed to get some good balls in and keep on the drill

Personally i try to do these drills a bit slower, but try to make them last a bit longer. I used to do at the same kind of pace, but i've changed as I've been told (and I agree) that its better for developing my footwork, my feeling and consistency.

So I have a different approach, but if your goals are different , for example, you cannot sacrifice on speed / power when practising because you really want to end the points quickly - I think you're doing well.

Is the guy feeding you, your coach or your buddy ?

 

[NextLevel]

@NL saw your drill video. I was quite impressed. good consistency while doing the drill with speed + power. even when the ball was going wide to the FH, you managed to get some good balls in and keep on the drill

Personally i try to do these drills a bit slower, but try to make them last a bit longer. I used to do at the same kind of pace, but i've changed as I've been told (and I agree) that its better for developing my footwork, my feeling and consistency.

So I have a different approach, but if your goals are different , for example, you cannot sacrifice on speed / power when practising because you really want to end the points quickly - I think you're doing well.

Is the guy feeding you, your coach or your buddy ?

Well, I had done a few slower but there are a couple of things, the main one was that I know my training partner blocks well and I wanted to play some game speed strokes because my practice ball arcs a lot and sometimes makes me look like I just practice weak balls so I wanted to flatten the arc a little. My training partner blocks with topspin almost all the time so it is very hard to time his balls consistently but it makes them slower so I think going faster is fair to reduce some of the spin I will get back if I do my slower strokes.

The feeder is a buddy, one of the people who helped me get better when I started playing 7/8 years ago. He is in his 60s now, but still hits at least 4-5 times a week. Used to be 2200+ until he had an accident and age caught up a little too but he is still doing well.

I also wanted to see what my strokes looked like - I will try some adjustments this week, I want to take the backhand a little differently and see what happens.

 

[NextLevel]

So my blade journey is over. I bought the Nexy Batos but it seems as if Nexy was trying to make a Butterfly Blade for some reason - fat handle, annoying wings and none of the stuff I like about Nexy Blades other than looking pretty. I played with it and liked how it felt (it was surprisingly faster and softer than Boll ALC), but in the end, I had to accept that I needed something I could hold the way I want to hold it. Handle is too underrated in table tennis.

So I bought a file and filed down the wings on both Nexy Batos and the Boll ALC (I had already sanded the handle of the Boll ALC). I also filed the handle of the Batos, and I feel like a serial killer when doing such stuff to a blade as good looking as that. But good looking blades don't win matches, it needs to feel good in my hand and adjust to my grip at key moments, not look good on a shelf.

Took the blades to the club, both blades felt better, but I had to reglue the Batos and I am not sure whether the way it plays is the gluing or the speed. I don't need faster right now, so I am going with the Boll ALC until I figure it out. And I might stick with it.

But from now on, I will never think of handle as something on a blade you accept, it is something you must look at and try to make your own once you have reached a decent level.

 

[Takkyu_wa_inochi]

Went to the club today. tbh i've had much better days. Didn't have a good feeling at the warming up, and soon started doing some matches because its too crowded.First guy I should win easily, beated him 3-1 easy in a tourney last year, i was playing not well but leading 2-0. Then i played even worse, while he started getting used to my tricks, and he won 3rd and 4th logically. In the 5th i recouped and had the better start, went 9-5 ahead. I thought i had already won and didn't put enough energy and focus to close it, and managed to lose this game. No excuses. Very poor showing !

Then i beated my teammate , he's below me so its normal, but only 3-1 this time, didn't play well, did just enough to win. Then i played a veteran who's a real fighter still and still has some grit. But i was a bit too consistent and without playing crazily, just staying focused, and making less mistakes than him, while waiting for the chance to attack, i won it 3-1. Could have made it much easier at 1 all and 9-3 up but i needed deuce to win the 3rd ! again i thought too early i had won...

Last game should have been the most interesting one, a guy that always beats me hard, BUT that i beated 3-0 last month the only time when it mattered, in our (only) official match in a team tournament, that was a very good match for me. Well today, it was back to business as usual, 3-0 for him. I wasn't able to receive well, he was on fire and missed only 2 or 3 attacks. I could not get more than 5 points per set. I know i play real bad when im not choooing even once in the match. I wonder how I could win 3-0 in the tournament !!! LOL

Then i thought it was time for the shower because i had enough for today, I've seldom left the club so early on a Tuesday...

 

[Der_Echte]

The J Pen world has been forever custom cutting, paring, and sanding the wings and grip area to fit their hand.

Nothing wrong with customizing a SH blade.

I am glad you like a blade enough to stick with it. We all know your journeys.

I need to toss one of them to forum member erm.

I am itching to tryout Batos for myself, but will use the erm provided Stiga Intensity with a soft FH rubber in this weekend's tourney.

Your report is encouraging.

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[NextLevel]

The J Pen world has been forever custom cutting, paring, and sanding the wings and grip area to fit their hand.

Nothing wrong with customizing a SH blade.

I am glad you like a blade enough to stick with it. We all know your journeys.

I need to toss one of them to forum member erm.

I am itching to tryout Batos for myself, but will use the erm provided Stiga Intensity with a soft FH rubber in this weekend's tourney.

Your report is encouraging.

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Yeah. I think staying away from the game for a while and getting married has helped me rethink my TT finances lol.

My relationship with Batos will evolve. But it is basically a good ALC blade. But Boll ALC is more reliable for me now.

 

[Lula]

My club have hired a old chinese coach that know alot. I do not know if i should be a coach with him and learn alot about how to tabletennis. Or if i should try to play myself as a player and get tips and advice. Have not gotten advice for the last 10 years so it is very fun to get some. What do you guys think? Maybe a mix is the best.

I ask the most anyway so maybe it does not matter so much, but i would like to get some tips when i am playing aswell. I wished i had this opportunities when i was younger. Lucky kids do not know how good they have it.

Edit: he is the generation of chinese that all played penhold and short pimples so he know alot about pimples. So that is even better for me.

 

[mart1nandersson]

Lula: does he speak English or Swedish? Is he for the seniors or the kids/youth/cadets?

 

[Lula]

Lula: does he speak English or Swedish? Is he for the seniors or the kids/youth/cadets?

He have lived in Sweden for a long time and been a coach in other cities. But have been outside the tabletennis world for a while. I think i will suggest for the sport director that i want to train myself the trainings he have, an be a coach for the other groups. Maybe i can take another day aswell. I think i rather want to become a better player than a better coach. I really like this opportunity for me to get some help. Frustrating to help others but no one helps me. He is coach for kids, youths. I hope they really step up now, because i think they are not really good enough or motivated enough to have him as a coach.

He did like your coach and started some drills with serves. Even the warm up. I do not know what i think about it. Good i think, but i have not done so much drills that start with serve because they miss to much so they newer come to the drill. I have more trained them separetly because of this reason.

 

[tzifos]

Bad attitude from Gerrit Engemann in the U21 European Mens Final versus Sgouropoulos. Sgouropoulos (winner) gives the hand to Engemann that ignores it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lOfrSxVO7DY&t=965 (at 16 min, 5 secs)

 

[yoass]

Bad attitude from Gerrit Engemann in the U21 European Mens Final versus Sgouropoulos. Sgouropoulos (winner) gives the hand to Engemann that ignores it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lOfrSxVO7DY&t=965 (at 16 min, 5 secs)

Very rude.

 

[yoass]

My club have hired a old chinese coach that know alot. I do not know if i should be a coach with him and learn alot about how to tabletennis. Or if i should try to play myself as a player and get tips and advice. Have not gotten advice for the last 10 years so it is very fun to get some. What do you guys think? Maybe a mix is the best.

My water tells me that mixing roles is hard, and the relation between master and pupil works best with clear boundaries.

In your case, I'd be that coaches pupil first, make the best of that — and maybe, after a while, he'll get to see you as an apprentice trainer and help you hone your training skills as well, and maybe even get so see you as one that might follow his (her?) footsteps.

Myself, when I train I try to maximize my confidence, whereas when I'm trained I try to maximize my receptiveness. I find it hard to mix the two. Hat of to you if you can "mix and match" these two attitudes, though.