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This return board thing is pretty fun! It can't adjust its blocking angle shot to shot, so if I'm practicing say 70% power loops then I'm forced to consistently be in position to loop at that level. I can't half ass a shot when I'm out of position or the rally ends. I can only manage at most 5-6 shots in a row thus far. I could do much longer rallies against a good blocker, so this is a good bit harder.

I really like it so far!
Which return board did you get? I've been wanting to get one for a long time but never have.
 
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Which return board did you get? I've been wanting to get one for a long time but never have.
I got the yuanclllp one from Amazon. Pretty easy to assemble. I worked on my FH tonight. It works pretty well, but it's hard to get more than 5-6 in a row right now, maybe because my loops have a bit of side spin.

I have my robot serve me a ball and I loop it at about 70% power. If I get the first loop right the subsequent ones are easier. I'm focusing on using my hips and relaxing my form right now. On my videos I seem very tight and I don't turn my hips nearly enough.
 
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So today I played in my first league matches with my 968. If you read the review thread, you'd seen that I was concerned about my FH. To counter that I practiced a lot more FH than I usually do during the week. Due to my dramatic improvements in BH during practices, I decided that it's finally time for me to start using it in games. My playing style has always, always been push and block on BH, while attacking everything that comes to the FH side.

Well, it didn't go so well :sneaky: The good thing was that FH was not an issue. I was slightly less consistent in looping vs. blocks, but my loops vs. backspins were actually better. That was surprising given it's only been a week since using a drastically different blade. On the BH side though it was terrible. In practice while my BH doesn't have the same level of power as my FH, consistency was similar. A bit worse against backspin, a bit better at close to the table counters.

Once the games started, however, I instinctively reverted back to push and block on the BH side. I had to really focus on being aggressive with my BH, and even then sometimes I reacted too slowly and had to tell myself "you're attacking this", instead of just instinctively attack it. When I really focused on the BH, the rest of my game suffered as well. I suppose it'll just take some time to change my mindset, but I do wonder if there's a quicker way to get that changed?

I ended the day going 1-3, losing the 3 games 3-0, 3-0, and 3-1. I was competitive in all the games, but when it came down to the critical points I was just all out of sorts. The only game I won was 3-2. I won the first 2 while half focusing on my BH, lost the next 2 while 100% focused on using my BH, then I'm a bit ashamed to admit that I did intentionally revert back to my old playing style the last set because I didn't want to lose all the matches. He was also the only player rated lower than me in the group, and I didn't want to take the ratings loss.
You went up a league level recently if I remember right, so these are just experiences to have and some growing pains, and you seem to still have done fairly well though not as well as you would have liked. And you're still adjusting to a new blade.

The BH thing might take a while longer than you might think but it will happen where you'll feel comfortable attacking with it. I think we've all been there. I remember thinking "I have no BH" for many years then it clicked to where I could just let it rip naturally in games. A robot can help you with the technique, but the timing and confidence needed in different situations, you can only get that in games and drills (the 2-2, Falkenberg and other transition drills we did over and over during my 4-year stint back in France really helped me with that). I hardly see any people do drills in the US, even with coaches, and it's even more beneficial with practice partners.
 
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You went up a league level recently if I remember right, so these are just experiences to have and some growing pains, and you seem to still have done fairly well though not as well as you would have liked. And you're still adjusting to a new blade.

The BH thing might take a while longer than you might think but it will happen where you'll feel comfortable attacking with it. I think we've all been there. I remember thinking "I have no BH" for many years then it clicked to where I could just let it rip naturally in games. A robot can help you with the technique, but the timing and confidence needed in different situations, you can only get that in games and drills (the 2-2, Falkenberg and other transition drills we did over and over during my 4-year stint back in France really helped me with that). I hardly see any people do drills in the US, even with coaches, and it's even more beneficial with practice partners.
I actually moved up 2 groups! 🥳

Yeah translating from practice to real games is always a pain, and very few people want to do anything more than basic loop vs block drills or FH-FH/BH-BH drills. I just have to hone my technique with the robot and return board, then suffer through some losses to translate practice gains into match results.

It's nothing new to me, anyway. I started off practicing against a glass wall, and worked my way up to the top of the local clubs in south Miami by stubbornly applying my practice gains through countless losses. I just need to stick to it, keep focusing on being aggressive with my BH until it becomes second nature.
 
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I actually moved up 2 groups! 🥳

Yeah translating from practice to real games is always a pain, and very few people want to do anything more than basic loop vs block drills or FH-FH/BH-BH drills. I just have to hone my technique with the robot and return board, then suffer through some losses to translate practice gains into match results.

It's nothing new to me, anyway. I started off practicing against a glass wall, and worked my way up to the top of the local clubs in south Miami by stubbornly applying my practice gains through countless losses. I just need to stick to it, keep focusing on being aggressive with my BH until it becomes second nature.
That's some great results! Your focus will get you there.

If you can find even just 1 dedicated practice partner to run drills with and do it twice a week for 1-2 hours, there's no better practice. Serious players in Europe do it naturally in practice, youth at my club would always ask what you want to do, whereas there seems to be some taboo in the US with running drills, it's just FH's and BH's and games. I have 3 dedicated practice partners that will run drills with me, and then from time to time when I hit with someone new who seems like they could be into it, I ask them if they want to run a few and switch, it's like breaking the ice lol.
 
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dingyibvs, are you gunna be in the Meiklejohn seniors this year? LDM7 and I plan on being there, along with Jones badazz Baldonado and some other friends.
I'm not quite 40 yet so I can't!

Thinking back to the return board training, I think if my goal is form correction then I'm using too much power. I should use maybe 40-50% power so I can get longer rallies, get into a groove of using the right technique.

I should still be working on my BH for the next 2 weeks according to my training schedule, so I think I'll replace a good portion of my BH topspin training with the backboard. The returned ball is more realistic in that the harder I loop the faster the returned ball. I can actually flip the board around and do continuous BH loop vs backspin practice as well since the back of the board is just wood, or basically a hardbat.
 
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I'm not quite 40 yet so I can't!

Thinking back to the return board training, I think if my goal is form correction then I'm using too much power. I should use maybe 40-50% power so I can get longer rallies, get into a groove of using the right technique.

I should still be working on my BH for the next 2 weeks according to my training schedule, so I think I'll replace a good portion of my BH topspin training with the backboard. The returned ball is more realistic in that the harder I loop the faster the returned ball. I can actually flip the board around and do continuous BH loop vs backspin practice as well since the back of the board is just wood, or basically a hardbat.
Good thinking all around!
 
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I think I should start a Meiklejohn hype-up thread in April. Should try to get maximum number of TTD members there to cause trouble that Allstate insurance company would be reluctant to protect the venue from the ensuing mayhem.
 
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Tried both FH and BH today with the return board. Noticed two things. First is that my FH placement and power control is very poor. This is probably due to weak fundamentals, but I just can't seem to do low powered shots with accurate placement consistently. I guess this is what you get when you start off your play attempting to emulate Ma Long!

Now on the BH side, by far my weaker side, it was actually a lot more consistent. I started from close to zero on that side less than 3 months ago. My BH was so bad that if I were facing power loops in PRACTICE, I'd be able to block maybe 20% of them with zero control. It was BAD. I started my training in Nov in a much more systematic way, and as a result I can do 10+ BH loops against the return board in a row while hardly needing to moving my feet.

When I get started on fixing my FH form I'm gonna have to break down to the fundamentals and start anew. It's both frightening and exciting! I think for this I'm gonna start with the robot, because I just don't have the level of consistency in form needed for the return board yet.
 
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I'm not quite 40 yet so I can't!

Thinking back to the return board training, I think if my goal is form correction then I'm using too much power. I should use maybe 40-50% power so I can get longer rallies, get into a groove of using the right technique.

I should still be working on my BH for the next 2 weeks according to my training schedule, so I think I'll replace a good portion of my BH topspin training with the backboard. The returned ball is more realistic in that the harder I loop the faster the returned ball. I can actually flip the board around and do continuous BH loop vs backspin practice as well since the back of the board is just wood, or basically a hardbat.
This is true for a lot of your training and is food for thought. What I feel about multiball and robot training is that the key is to forget about ball accuracy/consistency/power and to focus on just exercising the muscles in the right sequence slowly and to build things up over time. As a doctor, you surely know that your body will adapt and be capable of more over time as long as the stresses are reasonable.

I find that trying to hit the ball hard always means the overuse of something underdeveloped which is okay/expected in matches but not so much in training.
 
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dingyibvs, are you gunna be in the Meiklejohn seniors this year? LDM7 and I plan on being there, along with Jones badazz Baldonado and some other friends.
I will discuss with wifey lol. What state is this in again?
 
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played a team tournament today. group of 5 teams in division 5, we were 4 players.
team finished 3rd 2W2L. logical result.

personally played 2 doubles 1W1L, and 2 singles 1W1L

my first tournament with my new (slower) setup. in singles, i played a veteran (70+ yo ?), with LP on his BH. dropped a game but no real scare. then a good chopper with SP on BH. I was totally lost in G1 and G2. (-6 -5). problems to receive, his fast knuckle BH push to my BH cost me many mistakes, and he was performing very well in attack too !

then i got a lucky headstart in G3, i became more confident and finally found my rhythm. he wasn't expecting that, maybe couldn't focus, and he started making some mistakes that he wasn't doing till now. i fought back and manage to win 9 and 11 G3 and G4, playing 2 or more levels what i produced in G1 and G2 while maybe he dropped a bit.

but in G5 he was more agressive and served long. I knew i had to be careful about that because he did some in G4, but he took an early advantage, and with pressure of being behind i made more mistakes while he was gaining confidence, and there would be no remontada. i lost largely 3-11 in G5. Anyway we both knew at that stage that his team would go up Div4 next time, and we would stay in Div5 whatever the result so it was almost a friendly game (there's no official ranking points as well here in Japan).
 
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