DHS Hurricane 3 Neo: The Complete Amateur Guide & Review

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The only pseudo scientific value to boosting through glue is to reduce the rate of absorption and protect the sponge.

There's no evidence that it works (or not) and the only tangible effect is a goopy glue layer, which indicates at least some of the booster is mixed with the glue rather than getting into the sponge. I don't see why I would want to slow down the reaction, or make my glue goopy.
 
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So if we forget about high power loops, and look at the elements that are actually important for low-to-medium levels, we can see that H3 is very supportive:
- Service
- Serve receive
- pushing and short game
- overriding spin
- spinny opening loops
Those are all elements that are very important at these levels, and elements that can be played with a high level of safety using a Chinese tacky rubber like H3.
Sure, there are also elements that are harder, mostly flat elements like drives, passive blocks and smashes. But what that teaches is simply to always make an active stroke and add spin for safety.
The point is that it's harder to learn to loop with hurricane than with your easier to play andro r45 rubbers for instance. Yes sure, with good technical training and a good coach that all can work out, but that is utopia for most. There is simply not good enough coaching available in most clubs.

i am so adamant against this h3 to learn loop because i do and did see it fail already for youngsters at our club that actually have access to at least regular group training and here and there direct guidance from a coach. We even have a seasoned coach on the adult sessions that plays chinese rubbers, but still it seems to be very hard for 18 year old non muscular boys to loop with unboosted hurricanes.

That boy uses even the medium soft versions of hurricane 3 and still he can't loop with any consistency, because the power and acceleration needed to actually do that is above what he can actually control.
Yes, every 20th loop attempt he actually brings onto the table quite well and fast, but 95% of the others fail to clear the net.

The reality is that people learn from watching others and copying this style. This is just way harder for somebody with hurricane trying to copy a european technique because oh wonder, even the same movement that lands his peers a loop would not work with his hurricane rubbers.

The result is that guy can't loop, every attempted loop is more like a wild swing with a slap not a brush contact and every serve he can't return he will simply attempt to loop/smash it because he is out of options. All his serves are empty, because he does not have the wrist friction or acceleration to impart any spin, so basically everything he does and even if he would copy the movement of his tensor rubber peers would fail him.

this really hurts me seeing it fail so hard, because if you just looked at his equipment you would think that he is a spinny looper, but his game developed to the opposite. An empty balls spraying and smashing player.

The initial hurdle/threshold with these rubbers is simply too much for people that dont have a dedicated coach that can work with him on that.

I think this can severely harm "his game", because in my opinion learning to spin with some easy andro hexer rubber to actually incorporate loops into your game by using this successfully is much better than swining wildly and uncontrolled at the ball to try to get a thick enough contact with the right swing angle and trajectory.

Perhaps Doppelschlag wants to add a short video of his loops so we can see if his technique is anywhere close to what would be needed to have a chance to use that rubber.
 
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Hey, I get your point I really do. What blade is that person using though? Because some make it a lot harder (as I am experiencing) than others.
Your point is unfortunately also valid when you're surrounded by seniors playing classic rubber and finding light tensors too much. I find it easier to transition from classics to tacky.
 
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In my personal opinion, that's too thin to get anything sensible out of H3. Even using 729 Super FX on something like that is tough to get any action going. Mercury 2 (soft) would work if they insist on using something Chinese.

It fits your description of hitting way too hard into the ball very well. It's my exact experience with thinner 5ply blades and tbh even Korbel wasn't quite making it easy to handle.
I'm having a great experience with sanwei fextra lately. Solid but slow. Clipper would be great but is quite a bit more blade to handle.

I wouldn't go to the other extreme. Fzd ALC feels great but it doesn't give me a lot of time to work on the ball. I don't recommend inner fiber either because of the unpredictable gear shift that can happen. They have to master the rubber first before putting it on a fast blade, because they don't have the resources to learn using both well.
 
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Thanks all for interesting viewpoints! I will not post any videos (and this thread ist not about me specifically). However I am glad if I initiated an interesting discussion.

I will say this though: I just came back from 3 hours of training with my newly glued PPP+H3N and I haven’t had more fun playing TT in a long while. I felt much safer, landing loops and drives with significantly higher percentage. If course, I had to work hard for it, but that is what I was after. I certainly didn't feel I was lacking in speed (in my personal perception, compared to my normal training, that is). However, I don’t think the blade should be very much thinner, as @Tyce says.

One slight surprise was how tame the Nuzn 45 felt on the PPP; nice touch though, so just have to get used to it.

Only small drawback for me with PPP is the flared handle, I cannot get really comfortable with it, the way HAL’s ST handle fits my grip. Therefore, since my friend got me two H3N, I might go for Victor’s tip of slapping the other to my Hugo HAL. That way, if/when trying the other blade, I don’t change more than one parameter.
 
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In my personal opinion, that's too thin to get anything sensible out of H3. Even using 729 Super FX on something like that is tough to get any action going. Mercury 2 (soft) would work if they insist on using something Chinese.

It fits your description of hitting way too hard into the ball very well. It's my exact experience with thinner 5ply blades and tbh even Korbel wasn't quite making it easy to handle.
I'm having a great experience with sanwei fextra lately. Solid but slow. Clipper would be great but is quite a bit more blade to handle.

I wouldn't go to the other extreme. Fzd ALC feels great but it doesn't give me a lot of time to work on the ball. I don't recommend inner fiber either because of the unpredictable gear shift that can happen. They have to master the rubber first before putting it on a fast blade, because they don't have the resources to learn using both well.

Interesting point, thanks for elaborating. As I wrote above, H3N felt very instructive on the get-go, and not really lacking in speed or control, even if I had to work very hard for it. Maybe HAL would have been the even better fit, have you had any experience with this combo?
 
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