Dignics 09c is amazing

[TensorBackhand]

The more I play with the 09c the more I love it.
Its such an easy rubber to use. I do shots I never did before. Not even with the K3 when it was in its prime.
Somehow when people smash I smash them back with ease and they actually land where I intended them to land.
backhand flicks are levels better now.

I will say this: My Viscaria blade already felt like an extension of my arm. Its such a balanced blade that just feels like it hits the sweet spot in all areas. Its so ..... natural. It just got a small edge compared to other great blades.
That natural feeling viscaria has. I feel 09c has too. (for me). its simply a marriage in heaven.
I actually would love to hate on butterfly as a brand because of their insane prices but I can't.
Viscaria and 09c..... good luck making a better racket than this.
I know I know.... its very personal and preferences. plus I havent tried ALL rubbers and blades out there.

I remember long ago I tried various blades. spending good amount of money trying them out. Some where good but.... search went on. In the end I was like: fkit ill spend the money and buy that overpriced piece of wood from butterfly everyone is comparing everything with.
I remember thinking when playing with it: Why didnt I just buy this from the beginning? I could have bought 8 viscarias for the same amount of money. ok maybe not at the very beginning but after already 6 months of play I would have been ready for it.

I have a similar experience right now with 09c. I knew it was a top rubber people compare everything else with. I where holding back on this purchase for much longer due to the crazy price for a rubber that will wear out. at least the blade can last decades. its just not logical. And I kept on telling myself there are rubbers out there that can play as well or better than this. for less $. And I guess for some people there is. Its highly individual and personal.
The amount of money I spend on rubbers over the years is retarded. Often I play with it for 1-2 weeks and throw it out as its not what I was expecting. I wont mention which ones as some love them but to me they are useless. Always something lacking. (my opinion).
If I calculate the amount of money I spend on rubbers it would amount to much more than what it would have cost me to buy 09c and change both sheets every 4-5 months by a long shot.
This resulted in: having to get used to new rubbers often. (and blades as well). never getting to get really in sync with the equipment as not enough time is allowed with it.
Focusing on EJing non stop as the chase is on. Instead of just focus on the play.

its really nice to feel I "landed" on the perfect setup(for me). My only regret is I didnt just surrender and spend the $ much sooner. It would have been cheaper in the end as well.
Now..... disclaimer: Im not working for butterfly or anyone else btw. haha.
Im simply just trying to help those who where in same boat as me.

I now got 6 other rackets laying around Ill be getting rid off. Dont need them anymore. Ill sell it all and get another identical setup of what I have now as backup. done.

Now IF you are one of those that simply can't afford this kind of equipment here is my own experiences with other equipment:

Shop on aliexpress. some of the 2nd best rubbers and blades I ever tried came from there. Talk to the user in here called Tensorbackhand and find his posts. The blades and rubbers he recommends are better than all the more expensive ESN rubbers and brand name carbon blades I tried. You can get a serious "weapon" for much less than 80$ total that smokes most of what is out there regardless of the price ranges. My personal nr. 2 blade and rubber is the Sanwei 75 inner for 30$ and the Yinhe jupiter 3 asia rubbers for about 15$ each I think. Amazing equipment.
Hope this helps

End of my Rant

BTW I think you still haven't tested out the boosted GTX or booster on Jupiter 3 or Big Dipper or anything.
If you like them now, testing them with booster may even still increase your opinion of them.

 

[TensorBackhand]

The more I play with the 09c the more I love it.
Its such an easy rubber to use. I do shots I never did before. Not even with the K3 when it was in its prime.
Somehow when people smash I smash them back with ease and they actually land where I intended them to land.
backhand flicks are levels better now.

I will say this: My Viscaria blade already felt like an extension of my arm. Its such a balanced blade that just feels like it hits the sweet spot in all areas. Its so ..... natural. It just got a small edge compared to other great blades.
That natural feeling viscaria has. I feel 09c has too. (for me). its simply a marriage in heaven.
I actually would love to hate on butterfly as a brand because of their insane prices but I can't.
Viscaria and 09c..... good luck making a better racket than this.
I know I know.... its very personal and preferences. plus I havent tried ALL rubbers and blades out there.

I remember long ago I tried various blades. spending good amount of money trying them out. Some where good but.... search went on. In the end I was like: fkit ill spend the money and buy that overpriced piece of wood from butterfly everyone is comparing everything with.
I remember thinking when playing with it: Why didnt I just buy this from the beginning? I could have bought 8 viscarias for the same amount of money. ok maybe not at the very beginning but after already 6 months of play I would have been ready for it.

I have a similar experience right now with 09c. I knew it was a top rubber people compare everything else with. I where holding back on this purchase for much longer due to the crazy price for a rubber that will wear out. at least the blade can last decades. its just not logical. And I kept on telling myself there are rubbers out there that can play as well or better than this. for less $. And I guess for some people there is. Its highly individual and personal.
The amount of money I spend on rubbers over the years is retarded. Often I play with it for 1-2 weeks and throw it out as its not what I was expecting. I wont mention which ones as some love them but to me they are useless. Always something lacking. (my opinion).
If I calculate the amount of money I spend on rubbers it would amount to much more than what it would have cost me to buy 09c and change both sheets every 4-5 months by a long shot.
This resulted in: having to get used to new rubbers often. (and blades as well). never getting to get really in sync with the equipment as not enough time is allowed with it.
Focusing on EJing non stop as the chase is on. Instead of just focus on the play.

its really nice to feel I "landed" on the perfect setup(for me). My only regret is I didnt just surrender and spend the $ much sooner. It would have been cheaper in the end as well.
Now..... disclaimer: Im not working for butterfly or anyone else btw. haha.
Im simply just trying to help those who where in same boat as me.

I now got 6 other rackets laying around Ill be getting rid off. Dont need them anymore. Ill sell it all and get another identical setup of what I have now as backup. done.

Now IF you are one of those that simply can't afford this kind of equipment here is my own experiences with other equipment:

Shop on aliexpress. some of the 2nd best rubbers and blades I ever tried came from there. Talk to the user in here called Tensorbackhand and find his posts. The blades and rubbers he recommends are better than all the more expensive ESN rubbers and brand name carbon blades I tried. You can get a serious "weapon" for much less than 80$ total that smokes most of what is out there regardless of the price ranges. My personal nr. 2 blade and rubber is the Sanwei 75 inner for 30$ and the Yinhe jupiter 3 asia rubbers for about 15$ each I think. Amazing equipment.
Hope this helps

End of my Rant

btw, what was your wife's setup before?

Is she using Jupiter 3 full time now on fh? What's her backhand and blade now?

 

[iammaru]

The more I play with the 09c the more I love it.
Its such an easy rubber to use. I do shots I never did before. Not even with the K3 when it was in its prime.
Somehow when people smash I smash them back with ease and they actually land where I intended them to land.
backhand flicks are levels better now.

I will say this: My Viscaria blade already felt like an extension of my arm. Its such a balanced blade that just feels like it hits the sweet spot in all areas. Its so ..... natural. It just got a small edge compared to other great blades.
That natural feeling viscaria has. I feel 09c has too. (for me). its simply a marriage in heaven.
I actually would love to hate on butterfly as a brand because of their insane prices but I can't.
Viscaria and 09c..... good luck making a better racket than this.
I know I know.... its very personal and preferences. plus I havent tried ALL rubbers and blades out there.

I remember long ago I tried various blades. spending good amount of money trying them out. Some where good but.... search went on. In the end I was like: fkit ill spend the money and buy that overpriced piece of wood from butterfly everyone is comparing everything with.
I remember thinking when playing with it: Why didnt I just buy this from the beginning? I could have bought 8 viscarias for the same amount of money. ok maybe not at the very beginning but after already 6 months of play I would have been ready for it.

I have a similar experience right now with 09c. I knew it was a top rubber people compare everything else with. I where holding back on this purchase for much longer due to the crazy price for a rubber that will wear out. at least the blade can last decades. its just not logical. And I kept on telling myself there are rubbers out there that can play as well or better than this. for less $. And I guess for some people there is. Its highly individual and personal.
The amount of money I spend on rubbers over the years is retarded. Often I play with it for 1-2 weeks and throw it out as its not what I was expecting. I wont mention which ones as some love them but to me they are useless. Always something lacking. (my opinion).
If I calculate the amount of money I spend on rubbers it would amount to much more than what it would have cost me to buy 09c and change both sheets every 4-5 months by a long shot.
This resulted in: having to get used to new rubbers often. (and blades as well). never getting to get really in sync with the equipment as not enough time is allowed with it.
Focusing on EJing non stop as the chase is on. Instead of just focus on the play.

its really nice to feel I "landed" on the perfect setup(for me). My only regret is I didnt just surrender and spend the $ much sooner. It would have been cheaper in the end as well.
Now..... disclaimer: Im not working for butterfly or anyone else btw. haha.
Im simply just trying to help those who where in same boat as me.

I now got 6 other rackets laying around Ill be getting rid off. Dont need them anymore. Ill sell it all and get another identical setup of what I have now as backup. done.

Now IF you are one of those that simply can't afford this kind of equipment here is my own experiences with other equipment:

Shop on aliexpress. some of the 2nd best rubbers and blades I ever tried came from there. Talk to the user in here called Tensorbackhand and find his posts. The blades and rubbers he recommends are better than all the more expensive ESN rubbers and brand name carbon blades I tried. You can get a serious "weapon" for much less than 80$ total that smokes most of what is out there regardless of the price ranges. My personal nr. 2 blade and rubber is the Sanwei 75 inner for 30$ and the Yinhe jupiter 3 asia rubbers for about 15$ each I think. Amazing equipment.
Hope this helps

End of my Rant

Congrats on finding your dream rubber. Do you use D09 on both sides? And please update the durability after a while. I want to try this rubber but it’s too expensive, maybe worth it if it lasts a long time. Thanks!

 

[Cadoia]

btw, what was your wife's setup before?

Is she using Jupiter 3 full time now on fh? What's her backhand and blade now?

I bought her 09c as well after she tried mine. But it was more of a "well if you have it I want it too" story than anything else. I doubt she actually play better with it then the Jupiter.
And no I havent tried them boosted yet. And the GTX is still laying there waiting.
You need to tell me again how to apply the baby oil. When and where and how much etc?

 

[Cadoia]

Congrats on finding your dream rubber. Do you use D09 on both sides? And please update the durability after a while. I want to try this rubber but it’s too expensive, maybe worth it if it lasts a long time. Thanks!

Both sides yes.
durability I surely hope it last at least 6 months. We shall see. I will post.

 

[doppelganger_LT]

What is the weight of your setup? I tried D09C on BH and loved it, but I hated the total weight and especially the change of the weight balance, shifting so much towards the head.

 

[Cadoia]

What is the weight of your setup? I tried D09C on BH and loved it, but I hated the total weight and especially the change of the weight balance, shifting so much towards the head.

I didnt measure it but its heavy and its the only minus I have against it.
The balance is still good. I have a wrap on the handle of the blade that might help. Plus I dont put no more than 10cm protective tape on the side where it matters for less weight.

 

[TensorBackhand]

I bought her 09c as well after she tried mine. But it was more of a "well if you have it I want it too" story than anything else. I doubt she actually play better with it then the Jupiter.
And no I havent tried them boosted yet. And the GTX is still laying there waiting.
You need to tell me again how to apply the baby oil. When and where and how much etc?

What was she using before the 09c and before you got all those Chinese rubbers?

Let me know when you are ready to test the GTX and I will walk you through it.

 

[Cadoia]

What was she using before the 09c and before you got all those Chinese rubbers?

Let me know when you are ready to test the GTX and I will walk you through it.

She was using the Donic original true carbon blade with 2 donic rubbers I forgot the names off. Before that she used Fastarc G1, DHS H3 neo, rakza 7 etc. why?
I will let you know when I will try the gtx out. Want to put in on the sanwei inner carbon but right now the K3 is there on its last breath. Got as few friends enjoying playing with it for now. Ill give it 4 more weeks then its dead I presume.

 

[TensorBackhand]

She was using the Donic original true carbon blade with 2 donic rubbers I forgot the names off. Before that she used Fastarc G1, DHS H3 neo, rakza 7 etc. why?
I will let you know when I will try the gtx out. Want to put in on the sanwei inner carbon but right now the K3 is there on its last breath. Got as few friends enjoying playing with it for now. Ill give it 4 more weeks then its dead I presume.

Well I'm glad she likes the Jupiter 3. I'm just curious what she used before to compare to the Jupiter 3. But G1, H3 are good and well-established rubbers. You should try boosting it for her, because she might just like it even better.

 

[Cadoia]

Well I'm glad she likes the Jupiter 3. I'm just curious what she used before to compare to the Jupiter 3. But G1, H3 are good and well-established rubbers. You should try boosting it for her, because she might just like it even better.

It will happen

 

[TensorBackhand]

It will happen

If you are 2400, what level is she?

 

[Cadoia]

If you are 2400, what level is she?

I never said im 2400. No idea what level im at. Im guessing only according to what I see online comparing. Never competed in tournaments and never was into ratings etc. We spoke about this in private remember?

She never competed either but went to TT school in russia for gifted kids only to stop later on. Picked it up with me again in her adult life. She isn't super aggressive but beats some of the best male players here because she is consistent. You said you where around 1900 and I saw videos of you playing. My guess is she is around similar level. But again very hard to judge.

 

[joshmak10]

I think I will need to get 09C for BH definitely and maybe the FH on my Super Vis. Need some more speed for the block and also find it very difficult to loop backspin no matter how hard i hit upwards. Will the higher throw angle of the 09C help with looping under spin or do i just need to change to a regular ALC blade (I have the FZD ALC lying around to use)

 

[joshmak10]

I think I will need to get 09C for BH definitely and maybe the FH on my Super Vis. Need some more speed for the block and also find it very difficult to loop backspin no matter how hard i hit upwards. Will the higher throw angle of the 09C help with looping under spin or do i just need to change to a regular ALC blade (I have the FZD ALC lying around to use)

forgot to mention currently using H3 37 on BH and H3 40 BS on FH. I’m loving the FH rubber for everything except the low throw angle, which is why maybe I want to switch to 09C to get a higher throw angle if everything else is similar to H3 BS. H3 37 is unfortunately going to be replaced by 09C most likely because the low throw angle isn’t helping my BH at all

 

[SleepyMaster]

I think I will need to get 09C for BH definitely and maybe the FH on my Super Vis. Need some more speed for the block and also find it very difficult to loop backspin no matter how hard i hit upwards. Will the higher throw angle of the 09C help with looping under spin or do i just need to change to a regular ALC blade (I have the FZD ALC lying around to use)

What rubber are you using now on Vis salc?
I feel like it has automatic backspin lifting abilities 😁
Maybe it’s just too fast for you at this time 🤓

 

[Ioannis]

G09c to me lol, But i started using in only two weeks ago, hope it lasts for at least 8 weeks.

G09c seems to be a very durable rubber. After 7 months still going strong

 

[joshmak10]

What rubber are you using now on Vis salc?
I feel like it has automatic backspin lifting abilities 😁
Maybe it’s just too fast for you at this time 🤓

forgot to mention currently using H3 37 on BH and H3 40 BS on FH. I’m loving the FH rubber for everything except the low throw angle, which is why maybe I want to switch to 09C to get a higher throw angle if everything else is similar to H3 BS. H3 37 is unfortunately going to be replaced by 09C most likely because the low throw angle isn’t helping my BH at all

 

[SleepyMaster]

Ah, okay - the rubber are boosted I suppose? I never boosted anything, so I don’t know.
On a robot I did an forehand loop against underspin with Viscaria salc and i hit like 95 out of 100 forehands and 91 out of 100 for backhands shots in different sides of the table.
I think it’s more of a technique thing than a rubber to be honest.

 

[joshmak10]

Ah, okay - the rubber are boosted I suppose? I never boosted anything, so I don’t know.
On a robot I did an forehand loop against underspin with Viscaria salc and i hit like 95 out of 100 forehands and 91 out of 100 for backhands shots in different sides of the table.
I think it’s more of a technique thing than a rubber to be honest.

I do boost my rubbers, and I think I will actually keep my H3 on FH but will replace the one on Bh with 09C, I think it will help my technique more especially with the high throw angle