Does the D05 needs boosting

[ber]

Read some reviews that the D05 is dead out of package and need some boosting to show it's true characteristic

 

[Lazer]

No, it does not. If it feels dead that will the player not the rubber....

Cheers
L-zr

 

[Tyce]

Read some reviews that the D05 is dead out of package and need some boosting to show it's true characteristic

What reviews

 

[Archosaurus]

No ITTF stamped rubber with a sponge over 2mm is "dead".

 

[Faker]

No ITTF stamped rubber with a sponge over 2mm is "dead".

Hurricane 3?

 

[Archosaurus]

Hurricane 3?

I was using unboosted, 3+ years oxidized H3 on my forehand a month or so ago and my opponents sure didn't think it was dead.

EDIT: To answer OP's question: no, the sponge is already soft enough. You don't "need" to boost it. If you could get your hands on a pro player version with a hard enough sponge, then maybe...

One of the benefits of Dignics is it retains performance for a relatively long time; why ruin it with boosting and have to throw it out in a few months?

 

[jonol]

The topsheet of the 05 is relatively soft and the sponge is porous. Not only does it not need boosting, Butterfly sponges degrade pretty fast when boosted.

That said if you like the feel of boosted Dignics 05 and want to buy a fresh sheet every 2-3 months, it's your wallet at the end of the day.

 

[ber]

What reviews

Revspin

 

[ber]

The topsheet of the 05 is relatively soft and the sponge is porous. Not only does it not need boosting, Butterfly sponges degrade pretty fast when boosted.

That said if you like the feel of boosted Dignics 05 and want to buy a fresh sheet every 2-3 months, it's your wallet at the end of the day.

Oh yeah i'm def not keen in changing rubbers every 2-3 months, i want my rubber to last longer if possible forever haha

 

[ber]

No, it does not. If it feels dead that will the player not the rubber....

Cheers
L-zr

Alright thanks, researching for informations about it b4 buying the rubber

 

[Tyce]

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Scrub is such a troll. Honestly the Jesus image and the fact he calls himself God should have said enough.

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Revspin is full of crap information. D05 is not a tensor rubber according to Revspin.

This review is also full of weird contradictions.
Just think about it: the sponge is too easy to engage, but it needs boost? Boost would soften the sponge, making it even easier to engage. For some reason D05 grips the ball even during smashing... Uh, yeah. Especially during a smash, you will fully penetrate pretty much every rubber. So if you make an unstable smashing stroke, the ball will pop out. You can't just flop your racket around and expect the ball to understand where you want to aim it.

Comparing H3 to D05 is also pretty odd. They're completely different rubbers.

I have very limited D05 experience. Paired with a Super Viscaria, it was wayyyy too fast for me (D09c on the other side was much easier to control speed wise). The couple of (not 09c) Dignics I tried on demo rackets gave me the same impression: bouncy, takes a little bit more effort to engage than Tenergy, and the result is very good spin and high speed.

 

[ber]

Scrub is such a troll. Honestly the Jesus image and the fact he calls himself God should have said enough.

Revspin is full of crap information. D05 is not a tensor rubber according to Revspin.

Oh, yea i didn't know that. Any reliable source to trust?

This review is also full of weird contradictions.
Just think about it: the sponge is too easy to engage, but it needs boost? Boost would soften the sponge, making it even easier to engage. For some reason D05 grips the ball even during smashing... Uh, yeah. Especially during a smash, you will fully penetrate pretty much every rubber. So if you make an unstable smashing stroke, the ball will pop out. You can't just flop your racket around and expect the ball to understand where you want to aim it.

Comparing H3 to D05 is also pretty odd. They're completely different rubbers.

I have very limited D05 experience. Paired with a Super Viscaria, it was wayyyy too fast for me (D09c on the other side was much easier to control speed wise). The couple of (not 09c) Dignics I tried on demo rackets gave me the same impression: bouncy, takes a little bit more effort to engage than Tenergy, and the result is very good spin and high speed.

it's a dilemma should i go for d09c or d05, is it a pain in maintaning tacky rubber and how long will the tacky part live? Im guessing that the d05 has a longer life span because its grippy and not tacky

 

[Lazer]

Oh, yea i didn't know that. Any reliable source to trust?


it's a dilemma should i go for d09c or d05, is it a pain in maintaning tacky rubber and how long will the tacky part live? Im guessing that the d05 has a longer life span because its grippy and not tacky

 

[Lazer]

Oh, yea i didn't know that. Any reliable source to trust?


it's a dilemma should i go for d09c or d05, is it a pain in maintaning tacky rubber and how long will the tacky part live? Im guessing that the d05 has a longer life span because its grippy and not tacky

I kind of trust this page

Butterfly Dignics 05 | Review & Comparison

Butterfly Dignics 05 review | Spring Sponge X technology | Will it surpass Tenergy 05? | Comparison to the best rubbers

www.tt-spin.com

Cheers
L-zr

 

[ShaunXChen]

In my opinion, it is better off without booster but 1 layer of boost should be good.

 

[Archosaurus]

Oh, yea i didn't know that. Any reliable source to trust?


it's a dilemma should i go for d09c or d05, is it a pain in maintaning tacky rubber and how long will the tacky part live? Im guessing that the d05 has a longer life span because its grippy and not tacky

Maintenance for tacky rubber amounts to running a little bit of water over it, wiping it (mostly) off, then putting a rubber protective sheet on. I wouldn't rub on it hard; no need, and you'll wear it out if you do. I also wouldn't use any special cleaning products as they seem to speed up wear.

Every tacky rubber I've ever had always reduced tackiness a bit, perhaps in the first 2-3 months, but it never really goes entirely away in a normal lifespan.

 

[NetProphet]

Read some reviews that the D05 is dead out of package

I get why some players would say this. It is a relatively hard sponge and if you don't generate the racket speed required to really get into that sponge then it's gonna feel dead vs (for example) T19 or Rakza 7.

and need some boosting to show it's true characteristic

It doesn't need boosting to show it's true character.
However, if you don't have the power or technique to really use the rubber then boosting will help you by making it easier to get speed and spin from a D05.
However, booster will obviously alter the rubbers characteristics, so you no longer have the rubbers true characteristics. Makes sense?

To really get to the rubbers true characteristics you need to be a very good player.
Below a certain level this rubber is just a waste of money.

If you have to ask these questions then honestly, D05 is not the rubber for you.
Try the Glayzer, half the price, same long lasting topsheet, more performance for anyone under 2000 rating, different, and softer, sponge.
And absolutely no booster needed 😉

 

[ajtatosmano2]

D05 plays better with booster, but you probably don't need it. I asked pro players in our club if they boost and yes. One of them said that it's more stable boosted and better far from the table and one said that the ones imported from japan are much better (he probably got them from the JNT).
I've boosted my worn out D05 and it made it grippier.

 

[NetProphet]

D05 plays better with booster

Better really depends on who is using the rubber and what exactly they want from it. If you are talking to pro players who boost D05 I can't see how their experience would help a (relatively speaking) absolute novice

I've boosted my worn out D05 and it made it grippier.

A worn out D05 got 'grippier' from boosting?
Doesn't 'grip' come from the topsheet, from the rubber.
Boosting a sponge should have no impact on grip.

I don't think you're giving good advice to someone about how to best use a $100 rubber that is really intended for professionals and advanced players.

 

[Archosaurus]

A worn out D05 got 'grippier' from boosting?
Doesn't 'grip' come from the topsheet, from the rubber.
Boosting a sponge should have no impact on grip.

In a very simple way, no. Spin is created from force, not friction in the classic sense. You don't need to increase the topsheet's "friction" to get more grip, you can simply make it softer and more willing to snap back, or maybe even change its thermal properties, with softer compounds typically wanting lower temperatures although don't quote me on that.

Sponges which are more elastic can impart higher offset forces about the ball's CG which will provide spin and speed, and sponges which are more hysteretic can apply greater spin reversal and greater torque about the ball's CG.

The topsheet provides the relatively high coefficient of friction from the compound and favorable load sensitivity characteristics due to the high contact area, but the component that's really allowing spin to be made is the inverse pimple + sponge structure. This is also why stiff, short pips with high grip can still provide quite high spin as long as they have a thick, elastic sponge, of course ultimately not as much as an inverse topsheet.

It depends on the stroke itself what component is how biased, with thicker impacts caring more about the sponge, while very thin impacts care more about the topsheet friction characteristics, although in practice it's always a mix of both except perhaps in some very thinly contacted short serves where I feel like it's probably mostly topsheet.