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Whatever, every top player uses them. ESPECIALLY the Chinese.
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Just like there has never been a glue ban (but a VOC limit since 2008/9/1, as explained by Adham Sharara), there has never been a booster ban (all good as long as it is applied at the factory level, even though Sharara claimed some boosters were poisonous). Whatever the case, their public stance is that they don't allow any after-market modifications, physical (so no stretching when gluing), chemical etc., other than wear and tear from normal use...
https://www.tabletennisdaily.com/forum/topics/european-players-tacky-rubbers.17169/post-222889
https://www.tabletennisdaily.com/forum/topics/new-equipment-2021.24576/post-334027
https://www.tabletennisdaily.com/fo...-after-playing-with-tenergy.30632/post-398189
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Yes, any chemical treatment of the sponge or topsheet is prohibited.
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I think he doesn't have anything out of the ordinary that should crucify him.
It's just Fan wars, and people reacting to someone finally breaking the Ma-Fan duopoly and even looking like he might surpass Fan in the long run. So many fans have a soft spot for Fan for all the years of being number 2, so a confident upstart with some nasty serves will not be tolerated.
In the long run, all of China will adore him when he saves their ass in future events. I certainly look forward to seeing his performance in majors and posing big questions to the narrative some people peddle on this forum.
It's just Fan wars, and people reacting to someone finally breaking the Ma-Fan duopoly and even looking like he might surpass Fan in the long run. So many fans have a soft spot for Fan for all the years of being number 2, so a confident upstart with some nasty serves will not be tolerated.
In the long run, all of China will adore him when he saves their ass in future events. I certainly look forward to seeing his performance in majors and posing big questions to the narrative some people peddle on this forum.
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As of now, WCQ is the only core CNT player to have lost back-to-back in WTTC 2022 and 2024 (both times in SF).
He said ahead of the WTTC 2024 that he wanted to take on the 1st singles but that was not realistic at the moment and that he wanted to remain undefeated against foreign players.
https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1F2421F7TJ
His MT record in the Paris 2024 cycle is really shaky. Once we look past WTTC 2023 and Asian Games 2022, his MS record is also inconsistent at best. Given that he is just 1 year younger than FZD in reality, if he has trouble holding his own now, there is no telling that in the next few years he will run into the problems that FZD faces right now.
WTTC 2024
SF 1-3 JWJ
WTT CS Frankfurt 2023
SF 2-4 LYJ
ATTC 2023
MS R64 2-3 Tanaka
Asian Cup 2022
QF 3-4 LJH
WTTC 2022
SF 1-3 Harimoto
He said ahead of the WTTC 2024 that he wanted to take on the 1st singles but that was not realistic at the moment and that he wanted to remain undefeated against foreign players.
https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1F2421F7TJ
His MT record in the Paris 2024 cycle is really shaky. Once we look past WTTC 2023 and Asian Games 2022, his MS record is also inconsistent at best. Given that he is just 1 year younger than FZD in reality, if he has trouble holding his own now, there is no telling that in the next few years he will run into the problems that FZD faces right now.
WTTC 2024
SF 1-3 JWJ
WTT CS Frankfurt 2023
SF 2-4 LYJ
ATTC 2023
MS R64 2-3 Tanaka
Asian Cup 2022
QF 3-4 LJH
WTTC 2022
SF 1-3 Harimoto
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What do you mean by “1 year younger in reality“? He’s only 23 years old whereas Fan is 27. WCQ can still develop but FZD,LGY and LJK have all reached or surpassed their peak physically.
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The general rule (THE LAWS OF TABLE TENNIS) about chemical is in ITTF Handbook 2021, section 2.4.7
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2.4.7 The racket covering shall be used without any physical, chemical or other treatment.
2.4.7.1 Slight deviations from continuity of surface or uniformity of colour due to accidental damage or wear may be allowed provided that they do not significantly change the characteristics of the surface.
It doesn't say rubber, sponge or top sheet, and it is not blade covering. It is racket covering, which I may see it as the surface of the rubber, not the sponge. And it's sub section 2.4.7.1 also talks about surface, when may indicate that 2.4.7 is about not allowing chemical on surface. (for example use glue to treat long pimp)
When it comes to real life, how to make sure laws are followed, there is chapter 3 REGULATIONS FOR INTERNATIONAL COMPETITIONS
There are some rules related to TVOC testing:
3.2.4.1 It is the responsibility of each player to ensure that racket coverings are attached to their racket blade with adhesives that do not contain harmful volatile solvents.
3.2.4.2.1 The racket control centre shall test rackets, according to the policy and procedure established by the Executive Committee on recommendation of the Equipment Committee and Umpires and Referees Committee, to ensure that rackets abide by all ITTF regulations including, but not limited to, racket covering thickness, flatness and presence of harmful volatile substances.
So, basically, it's all about presence of harmful volatile substances, not about how you treat the sponge.
I'm not defending anyone. (I'm actually a little annoyed with WCQ's serve) Just trying to make sure I understand the book right.
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Maybe I could get on board with 'many' top players using it. But saying 'every' top player does it is just objectively untrue. Also, which other Chinese players are you referring to? Let's be specific.
WCQ rightly gets singled out because how egregious his ball hiding is and how he does it in crucial situations, which shows intentionality. The fact that he's also the most talented player right now makes it worse. He already has the goods to be the top player without illegal serves, but be does it anyway to be even more dominant than he otherwise would be.
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Ahem...
LGY 1995-2/3/19
LJK 1996-1/10/20
FZD 1997/1/22
WCQ 2000-2/5/11
王楚钦的真实年龄到底是00年的还是98年的？ (Is WCQ's real age 00 or 98?)
https://www.zhihu.com/question/368366464
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Everyone does it because Haifu makes special booster for the national team and I'm guessing that it's provided to them. Everyone from Ma Lin, Wang Hao, Ma Long, Wang Liqin, Fan Zhendong, Lin Gaoyuan, Xu Xin and so many more are using booster. You can tell by the texture of their rubber looking extremly stretched.
With tensors it's a bit different, these rubbers are made harder and are boosted in the factory, like all rubbers, but different to suit pro's demands. People that have played with pro rubbers all reported that they were harder and quite a bit faster.
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Dude, if you do anything intentional that changes the characteristics of the rubber it's banned and that's it. Don't look too much into it, and I said sponge or topsheet because both can be altered. And yes, racket covering is the rubber.
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WCQ is extremely dominant right now.
It is impressive how much he destroys some of his opponents with his power and speed from both wings.
He also seems to totally have felix lebruns number, some of the other CNT players tend to struggle much more against him but WCQ absolutely destroys him every time, felix hasn't found a way to put pressure on him yet.
Part of it might be WCQ being a lefty so it is tougher to avoid the forehand than against a righty.
It is impressive how much he destroys some of his opponents with his power and speed from both wings.
He also seems to totally have felix lebruns number, some of the other CNT players tend to struggle much more against him but WCQ absolutely destroys him every time, felix hasn't found a way to put pressure on him yet.
Part of it might be WCQ being a lefty so it is tougher to avoid the forehand than against a righty.
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In an interview with Table Tennis World, WCQ said he was having severe pain in his shoulder during the warm-up tournament at the end of the closed training in Chengdu and had to take an injection and getting drawn Wang Yang for the first round/R64 at Paris 2024 was the worst-possible scenario.
看点《乒乓世界》我骰的采访 (Check out My Dice's interview with Table Tennis World)
https://tieba.baidu.com/p/9478432927
看点《乒乓世界》我骰的采访 (Check out My Dice's interview with Table Tennis World)
https://tieba.baidu.com/p/9478432927
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