Fast chop blocks with inverted rubber?

[Fruitlover]

Hi everyone, I recently started to practice chop blocks (I am a very aggressive player and rarely used any kind of blocks so far). I know that most coaching videos focus on short or sometimes half long slow spinny chop blocks, but what's wrong with fast chop blocks, adding a forward movement or even a small punch to the sideways and downwards chop block motion? Is this still a chop block actually? Otherwise I have to edit the topic .

Fruitlover

 

[Scarfed Garchomp]

Still a chop block but, aiming longer on the table is more risky than aiming short. The aim of chop blocking is generally to try and throw the opponent off rhythm with a floaty/sinking trajectory and/or seeing if they make a mistake reading/receiving the spin

 

[Fruitlover]

Do you think a long fast chop block with sidespin is easier or more difficult to receive than a short or a half long one with sidespin? Or both easy if not unexpected? Maybe depends on the level.

 

[Archo]

Do you think a long fast chop block with sidespin is easier or more difficult to receive than a short or a half long one with sidespin? Or both easy if not unexpected? Maybe depends on the level.

How long is a string of rope?

 

[Fruitlover]

WIth long I meant first bounce maybe 10 cm away from the white line (+- 5 cm).

 

[J-fed]

Snap chop block is a bloody difficult thing to do in a match. I'm trying to practice the truls type shot in practice on my BH LPs both randomly and in multiball lately and it's super fun but still haven't done one in a match. Devastating technique so I want to get it but dang. Not able to make it my tool just yet.
Long or short has not yet entered the chat. I just try to land it.

 

[J-fed]

Hi everyone, I recently started to practice chop blocks (I am a very aggressive player and rarely used any kind of blocks so far). I know that most coaching videos focus on short or sometimes half long slow spinny chop blocks, but what's wrong with fast chop blocks, adding a forward movement or even a small punch to the sideways and downwards chop block motion? Is this still a chop block actually? Otherwise I have to edit the topic .

Fruitlover

Yes. I add a touch of chop to my FH long block at willl. It is a nice technique that makes people wonder why they miss. No reason you can't experiment and use it freely.

 

[Fruitlover]

I have a match today and will try it with the backhand. I think you just need some courage. In the worst case you lose a point ;-) .

 

[J-fed]

I have a match today and will try it with the backhand. I think you just need some courage. In the worst case you lose a point ;-) .

Honestly think FH is easier.

 

[Fruitlover]

I have a match today and will try it with the backhand. I think you just need some courage. In the worst case you lose a point ;-) .

Unfortunately I had to play against pips/anti and could not test it. I the training I tried fast chop blocks (with the backhand) against topspins with a lot of rotation and it worked well. Not sure why it is considered as difficult.

Honestly think FH is easier.

Chop blocks/fast chop blocks easier with FH? :-O

 

[J-fed]

Unfortunately I had to play against pips/anti and could not test it. I the training I tried fast chop blocks (with the backhand) against topspins with a lot of rotation and it worked well. Not sure why it is considered as difficult.


Chop blocks/fast chop blocks easier with FH? :-O

Yes, imo. Not difficult to add a touch of chop on the FH. Full chop is of course more challenging but still easier and purer than BH. But you can do crazy stuff with the BH. See Truls.

Great that you have your technique down on the BH. Possibly I don’t because I use LPs and rely on punch blocks and sweeps. The close to table BH CB is something I do in practice but not as naturally as the FH subtle CB. I find that quite natural.

 

[jonol]

Do you think a long fast chop block with sidespin is easier or more difficult to receive than a short or a half long one with sidespin? Or both easy if not unexpected? Maybe depends on the level.

It needs to be short or half long to be effective against strong players.

It's effective when used against strong loops, and the other player expects to receive a long ball in return with topspin on it. It's awkward to re-loop a shorter chop because they need to move into the table. If they're late to the ball, they have a much higher chance of either making an error, or pushing the ball back.

If you chop block long, then they're much more likely to be able to simply loop the ball again because even if they're late they will have the room to lift the ball and create heavy spin. It doesn't have the same effect.

That said, the only way to get better at it is to practice it and try it out. Even if it's long, you can always keep working on your touch to improve your placement with it

 

[blahness]

Hi everyone, I recently started to practice chop blocks (I am a very aggressive player and rarely used any kind of blocks so far). I know that most coaching videos focus on short or sometimes half long slow spinny chop blocks, but what's wrong with fast chop blocks, adding a forward movement or even a small punch to the sideways and downwards chop block motion? Is this still a chop block actually? Otherwise I have to edit the topic .

Fruitlover

Dont think this is classified as a chopblock. It sounds like the nasty af Hao Shuai sidespin sinking block technique which kills the incoming topspin.

I think you are contact the ball at the upper left corner and press it down firmly (not actively brushing it)

I dont think this can produce any significant underspin unlike a true chopblock, but imo this is definitely a shot I use quite often and is quite a lot easier to do than the chopblock.

But tbh you need to combine it with the topspin and fade block and punch block and it would be really annoying for the attacker.

One fav combo is to serve super wide short sidespin (ie like He Zhi Wen) to invite the crosscourt loop, then do this block down the line. Quite disgusting combo when it works lol.

There is a kinda famous chinese youtuber whose specialty is this shot, it is called 'zombie block' or 僵尸怼 lol