Going from classic rubber to Tenergy

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Telling someone to TRY tenergy is like give them cocaine and say "here, get used to it first" and then after you know it, you can't separate from it :rolleyes:

There are people who need to try for themselves to know whether it is something useful for their game or not. You should understand this. The EJ Virus does hit most of us.

You can question the idea of going from a non-tensor straight to T05 as the first jump. That is where the biggest risk lies. But if he wants to try T05, he will do it sooner or later.

Some people really just have to try for themselves. Sooner is probably as good as anytime. Otherwise that gerbil spinning the wheel inside their mind will keep their mind going "I've gotta try T05, I've gotta try T05 now, I need it, I need it, now, now, I've gotta try T05, I've gotta try T05 now, I need it, I need it, now, now," on a constant loop until they try and find out that they were correct that T05 is their dream rubber or that they were mistaken.

What? It's way faster then vega europe. It's not super fast in flat hitting but nothing generates spin while maintaining speed like T05 (well except for boosted H3)

For a smart guy you seem to miss some simple details. If the test ttpshot is referring to is a SIMPLE REBOUND test, then it only tests how the ball bounces off when the racket is struck by the ball.

For people who do not loop, they could end up getting T05 and not understanding why so many people like it so much. It is not slow on flat hits. But it is not really fast. Vega Europe could be about right for a flat hit comparison.

There are many rubbers that are faster. But they don't get as much spin. There are some rubbers that get as much or more spin. But they aren't as fast or as consistent. And they don't feel as good.

Where T05 really shines is good speed and massive spin on loops. But you have to be able to handle the incoming spin and if you can't make good spin contact, you are throwing your money away on T05.

I am not so sure well boosted H3 is really very fast either although you get enough spin with the speed.

Where H3 shines is: a) it is amazing for the short game; b) if you have the racket speed, the right contact and the impact power in your stroke, you will get massive spin with quite decent speed; c) it allows you to take a much more powerful swing and not sacrifice control.

If you can't supply the power, H3 will feel slow. It is only with the technique and the power that H3 rewards offensive strokes. This is why so many people say you can't be lazy with H3 and that you have to have good footwork and precise technique. If you can't put the power in, you won't get it out. And if your feet are not in the right place, you will not be able to supply sufficient power.


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For a smart guy you seem to miss some simple details. If the test ttpshot is referring to is a SIMPLE REBOUND test, then it only tests how the ball bounces off when the racket is struck by the ball.

For people who do not loop, they could end up getting T05 and not understanding why so many people like it so much. It is not slow on flat hits. But it is not really fast. Vega Europe could be about right for a flat hit comparison.

There are many rubbers that are faster. But they don't get as much spin. There are some rubbers that get as much or more spin. But they aren't as fast or as consistent. And they don't feel as good.

Where T05 really shines is good speed and massive spin on loops. But you have to be able to handle the incoming spin and if you can't make good spin contact, you are throwing your money away on T05.

That's spot on. My apology to laistrogian for not explaining my statement in details.
 
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Thanks for the replies. I have played with Tensors before, Vega Pro for example. It was okay, I liked its feeling for blocking and the short game but I didn't like opening with it, I had the feeling I had to hit kinda hard because the rubber was not that grippy for slow opening topspins. And after the break (6 years) I thought I tried something new (old) which was Donic Coppa to get back into the game. That decision was correct, it's pretty good and I like the way it plays, except for its low arc and maybe a bit more tempo. I like that it plays as linear as Vega Pro and that it's easier to open against backspin. I also tried Vega Europe and I absolutely hated it, I think I like those 'linear' rubbers a lot more. I guess I will just have to try out in the break between seasons. :) From what I read it should fit, it's close to Vega Pro but easier to open topspins because its grippier, but maybe I am hoping for too much :D BTW I checked some videos on youtube, my level should be USATT 1800-1900ish I guess? Kind of hard to judge.
 
you should try the Tibhar Evolution El-S max at first. It has the speed that you are looking for but it isn't too fast. Also the spin is one of the spinniest non Tenergy rubber in the market. At least, it will not cost you too much if you buy it instead of Tenergy 05. The EL-S is the closest replacement you can have for the Tenergy 80.
 
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