ITTF WTTC Finals Doha 2025, 5/17-25

[Tony's Table Tennis]

I was reading the FFTT.com news, and of course they did not state it was after that celebration

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after the celebration, went down and checked his knee, and then started to limp and struggle to walk.

that was the moment the adam bobrow whats happened guy appears in the video invincibly.

 

[baotran]

what happened at ETTU last year??
do tell

Felix threw his racket after losing to Duda and broke ETTU's advertisement board...

 

[PoppaChubby]

He's not alone. Same reactions from the other side of the world as well. French and Briton are well-known for breaking things, themselves included.

Blah blah blah, what If I said the typical chinese behavior is to be mistaknowitall ?

Chinese people are nice people, but you're a cunt. And you're offending your own country with your behavior.

 

[NextLevel]

There are many factors: Felix is dealing with the same issues Harimoto has dealt with before: his body changes according to his coach and they had to change some things this year in his training, but An is also doing great so far in this tournament. He's not a Top 20 guy by accident or luck, he plays like a top 10 in this tournament.

Yeah but regardless Felix is in Hugo's head. An has never beaten Hugo (usually wins a game but no more). It would have been a different tension if Hugo had gone down a game to Felix.

 

[PoppaChubby]

Felix threw his racket after losing to Duda and broke ETTU's advertisement board...

- don't throw ANYTHING ANYMORE

I forgot that one indeed.

The silly thing is that we've been talking about this with the famous Ruwen Filus vs Quadri Aruna incident, and I've said that I had the same experience with one of my club mates that has been suspended for the rest of the season, meaning... all the season as it happened in its beginning.

 

[PoppaChubby]

Yeah but regardless Felix is in Hugo's head. An has never beaten Hugo (usually wins a game but no more). It would have been a different tension if Hugo had gone down a game to Felix.

Might be, could be... we'll never know. Hugo's mental has probably grown since his World Cup victory, he was trailing 1-3 vs WCQ and he managed to win, he left Jean-René Mounier (or Jean-René Mounier wanted to get back with the FFTT staff ? ) either way he has changed to me.

 

[Persistence TT]

So Wang Hao losing in 2005 tomorrow Michael Maze makes Maze a Chinese player now? Really?

My statement which blew completely out of proportion from zeio was that , wang hao ma long etc didnt lose so many times in their PEAK years agaisnt foreigners.

its ok for LSD to lose to calderano at such a young age. it is ok for wang hao or ma long to mess it up till 22-23 (even though at that age they were already top notch, especially ML

All I am saying is, that batch of chinese players didnot have the "bad" results of today's batch. Im not making comparisons which are unfair but the numbers are numbers, the rest of the world has also caught up and winning on 3 sets with a very heavy WTT program also plays a huge factor to a player's performance. But the rest of the world is playing in the same conditions too

 

[Persistence TT]

And LSD, who just turned 20 years old, is at his peak? You may argue the case for WCQ, who is actually 2 years older than his official age, is in his peak years.

Dude do you even read what I am writing? I never said LSD is at his peak. read again please.

"Lets count how many losses and how often in an olympic cycle has FZD LJK LGY WCQ ."


I didnt even mention LSD. exactly because I know he has alot of work in front of him. So please, try to understand first before jumping into conclusions just because you can't accept the reality of numbers.

Be my guest, count the losses in the recent olympic cycle, then count the lossess of ma long and wang hao in their olympic cycles.

And you will have your result. I dont even have to count, ML and WH had better performance by far

 

[Rafael Caetano]

Wow Hugo, just wow, what a match, . For the first time in many years I think that Calderano might be the favorite to win against Liang Jingkun. Calderano won his past match against Liang Jingkun, and if calderano keeps up his form tomorrow I believe he might be the favorite to go the the final! He is in a 14 games winning streak(if you account his victory against franzisca in the bundesliga)!!!!

 

[baotran]

- don't throw ANYTHING ANYMORE

I forgot that one indeed.

The silly thing is that we've been talking about this with the famous Ruwen Filus vs Quadri Aruna incident, and I've said that I had the same experience with one of my club mates that has been suspended for the rest of the season, meaning... all the season as it happened in its beginning.

I also saw these kind of things when I was living in France. Club players lost crucial games and punched the wall or threw their rackets (often to their bags, luckily). These behaviours happened quite sometimes so that the club had to announce new rules punishing players with bad manners.

 

[zeio]

Dude do you even read what I am writing? I never said LSD is at his peak. read again please.

"Lets count how many losses and how often in an olympic cycle has FZD LJK LGY WCQ ."


I didnt even mention LSD. exactly because I know he has alot of work in front of him. So please, try to understand first before jumping into conclusions just because you can't accept the reality of numbers.

Be my guest, count the losses in the recent olympic cycle, then count the lossess of ma long and wang hao in their olympic cycles.

And you will have your result. I dont even have to count, ML and WH had better performance by far

Coming from someone who said WH didn't lose after 2004. Another one who didn't read through my post. I didn't even list their losses at World Cup 2003 and WTTC 2004, where WH was not even 22. Not to mention the losses in the late 90s and early 2000s. Done wasting my time.

 

[Persistence TT]

Coming from someone who said WH didn't lose after 2004. Another one who didn't read through my post. I didn't even list World Cup 2005. Done wasting my time.

count the losses. be my guest. he lost to maze and ovtcharov...one time each ?? . do you want to count losses of WCQ FZD LJK . Do you want to count the losses of wang hao aged 23 24 25 and then do the same for the existing generation?

i dont see the numbers. where are they? dude. you know their record is much much worse. you know it.

Let's make a bet, I will give you 5000 euros if you manage to prove wang hao and ma long had a WORSE overall record against non chinese players.

Are you in or not?

 

[pongfugrasshopper]

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[Tony's Table Tennis]

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in summary.

the pressure building up to perform.
only pro athletes who walked this path would ever understand it.

 

[baotran]

Wow Hugo, just wow, what a match, . For the first time in many years I think that Calderano might be the favorite to win against Liang Jingkun. Calderano won his past match against Liang Jingkun, and if calderano keeps up his form tomorrow I believe he might be the favorite to go the the final! He is in a 14 games winning streak(if you account his victory against franzisca in the bundesliga)!!!!

Sorry, I might say that tomorrow's game will be the hardest game for Hugo since World Cup, even harder than the win against WCQ. Liang's defense is no joke. Unlike LSD and WCQ, LJK is very good in placement and neutralizing opponent's game plans. He also has enough experience to adapt Hugo's strong physical game, this happened last time when Hugo was on a 2-0 lead and then got equalized. Also Chinese team has some special preparations for two weeks, so I believe LJK has the upper hand. Hugo will have a good chance if he has some new plans to confuse Liang and take early leads, but if not then I can say he is very likely to stop.

 

[NextLevel]

I really need to know how Truls’ mind works. He can be emotionally unstable but also be able to have the mental strength to come back at the same time.

No other player can display this level of bipolar behavior and pull it off.

Its because you think stoicism is thr only proper approach to managing emotions. This is completely untrue. Sometimes you have to care to engage your emotions and play your best and this is different for everyone.

 

[NextLevel]

Poor Togami really dropped the ball at the end of games 4 and 5. Definite improvement overall for him, and he had some performances to be proud of. But he's like an anime character who doesn't the ability to reign in his own power.

Not taking any credit away from Truls, but it seemed like he just had to hold his ground and let Togami overplay his hands.

If Togami won that fifth game, he would’ve won the match

The problem is that Truls started starting thr points a bit differently and going for the kinds of serves he knew Togami wouldn't attack and stopped giving Togami the forehand without Togami working for it. And since Togami was spoiled by an early lead, he didnt feel the need to change tactics that had been working. He needs to expand how he scores points, all he is trying to do is overwhelm the opponent and this gets predictable after a while even if you try to set it up a bit differently within a narrow range. If he had tried to set up Truls a bit more with some variation he might have r broken through. But everything was simply get an easy attack and a good rally or try to hit past Truls when in a rally. Trying to send Truls wide witj pushes to make him use that forehand, not so much. Its a good step dor the Civil War Kikg but he has work to do to escape his title. I am convinced that if Harimoto was not his teammate, there is no way Harimoto would be losing to him.

 

[Egon]

The problem is that Truls started starting thr points a bit differently and going for the kinds of serves he knew Togami wouldn't attack and stopped giving Togami the forehand without Togami working for it. And since Togami was spoiled by an early lead, he didnt feel the need to change tactics that had been working. He needs to expand how he scores points, all he is trying to do is overwhelm the opponent and this gets predictable after a while even if you try to set it up a bit differently within a narrow range. If he had tried to set up Truls a bit more with some variation he might have r broken through. But everything was simply get an easy attack and a good rally or try to hit past Truls when in a rally. Trying to send Truls wide witj pushes to make him use that forehand, not so much. Its a good step dor the Civil War Kikg but he has work to do to escape his title. I am convinced that if Harimoto was not his teammate, there is no way Harimoto would be losing to him.

After defeating Togami, Truls, in addition to shouting, pointed at his head. A gesture that speaks for itself. Truls really outplayed Togami primarily with his head. Excellent analytics from the NextLevel!

 

[KounaTaPodiaSou]

LONG LIVE WANG CHUQIN AND LIANG JINGKUN!
(Unless they don't qualify tomorrow)

 

[KounaTaPodiaSou]

count the losses. be my guest. he lost to maze and ovtcharov...one time each ?? . do you want to count losses of WCQ FZD LJK . Do you want to count the losses of wang hao aged 23 24 25 and then do the same for the existing generation?

i dont see the numbers. where are they? dude. you know their record is much much worse. you know it.

Let's make a bet, I will give you 5000 euros if you manage to prove wang hao and ma long had a WORSE overall record against non chinese players.

Are you in or not?

You got a deal, pal