JTTA: Selection System to be Revamped for Paris 2024

tackyfh · Jan 8, 2024

Does anybody know when TV Tokyo will release the latest selection tournament match videos? I'm tired of them reposting old matches over and over again

zeio · Jan 8, 2024

A recent Tieba comment sums up the current atmosphere on 5ch (behind the "objective" facade) and the dilemma JTTA is in.

2024全日锦详细签表已出 (Zennihon Takkyu 2024 full draws out)
https://tieba.baidu.com/p/8804835338?pid=149371292612&cid=149566398473#149566398473
DF4B7637: 回复小嘟嘟酱 :现在日乒能拿得出手的只有平野（低调），早田（会来事）只是明面上顶一顶，实际上是没有威胁的，至于伊藤已经是无所谓了，但木原还有待考察
The only one that JNT can bring to the table now is Hirano (low-key), whereas Hayata (be all things to all people) is merely propped up superficially, yet is in fact not a threat. As for Ito, it doesn't matter anymore, but Kihara is to be observed some more.

zeio · Jan 10, 2024

tackyfh said:
at best she can fight for a spot in LA 2026, but that means she'll have to compete against Miwa, Nagasaki and Kihara, who'll reach their peak performance beside the 00-line

The field for LA 2028 will be far more contested. It's still early to tell how competitive it will be, but there are at least 5 more up-and-coming players besides Harimoto.

Continuing from where I left off (11/12/2022 at 3:52am):
Hirano (2000/4/14)
Hayata (2000/7/7)
Ito (2000/10/21)

Nagasaki (2002/6/15)
Yokoi (2004/4/23)
Odo (2004/5/16)
Kihara (2004/8/3)

AOKI Sachi (2007/4/10)
MENDE Rin (2007/12/31)
TAKEYA Misuzu (2008/4/17)
TAKAMORI Mao (2008/5/15)
Harimoto (2008/6/16)
OJIO Yuna (2008/7/5)

Where Yokoi, Odo, Takamori and Aoki are affiliated to Shitennoji and Miki House. Given Yokoi's and Odo's zero international activities in 2022 and 2023, whereas Takamori had been playing weekly for the most part since May, 2023 and Aoki started playing again in Nov, 2023, I get the impression that both Yokoi and Odo will be passed over in the next cycle, much like Nagasaki and Kihara.

zeio · Jan 19, 2024

3rd members to be announced on 2/5.

卓球のパリ五輪代表候補は２月５日発表　男女各３人、男子の張本や女子の早田は確実
https://www.sankei.com/article/20240119-PHQFOQJ6KJI5TLP7Y5JCFDXL34/

【卓球】パリ五輪代表候補を２月５日発表　張本智和と戸上隼輔、女子は早田ひなは確実
https://www.nikkansports.com/sports/news/202401190000711.html

Takkyu_wa_inochi · Jan 19, 2024

zeio said:
3rd members to be announced on 2/5.

卓球のパリ五輪代表候補は２月５日発表　男女各３人、男子の張本や女子の早田は確実
https://www.sankei.com/article/20240119-PHQFOQJ6KJI5TLP7Y5JCFDXL34/

【卓球】パリ五輪代表候補を２月５日発表　張本智和と戸上隼輔、女子は早田ひなは確実
https://www.nikkansports.com/sports/news/202401190000711.html

national champs next week in Tokyo

i think i will be going to watch a little bit

zeio · Jan 20, 2024

Hayata's interview with TV Asahi in TV program Hodo Station.

卓球・早田ひな　目標はテニス界のレジェンド　秘訣は“ひな語”「体が勝手に…」
https://news.tv-asahi.co.jp/news_sports/articles/900001259.html

zeio · Jan 20, 2024

TV Tokyo has been following Harimoto in Doha. Harimoto says even if he couldn't win the Zennihon, as long as he gets a medal at Paris 2024, that'd be fine. Nothing is more important than the Olympics.

張本智和「全日本が取れなくても、五輪が取れればいい。何よりも重要なのがオリンピック」
https://www.tv-tokyo.co.jp/tabletennis/news/2024/01/032496.html

張本は「明日やっても負けるだろう。明後日やっても負けるだろうと初めて思った。世界ランクも11位まで落ちて、本当にやばいと思った。このままいったら20位、30位まで落ちてしまうんじゃないかと思った」と危機感を募らせた。

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男子日本代表田勢監督は「目に見えて行動が変わった。体つきもそうだし、顔つきも変わり始めている。張本選手自身もオリンピックに向けて、いよいよエンジンがかかってきたなと」変化を感じ取っている。

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2024年を迎えて張本は「2023年は自分にとってはいい1年ではなかった。思い描いていた1年ではなかった。1回悪いものは切り離して、今年はいいスタートが切れるように。全日本選手権で優勝できなくても、オリンピックでメダルを獲れるなら、それはそれでいい。何よりも重要なのがオリンピック。そこが一番ですね」と五輪への思いを語った。

【独占インタビュー】張本智和の挑戦パリ五輪への思い「何よりも重要なのがオリンピック」
https://news.yahoo.co.jp/articles/4debeec563796a0c4335f7924a0c3043eb8131f3 (Japan's IP needed)
【テレ東独占】張本智和の挑戦パリ五輪への思い「何よりも重要なのがオリンピック」
https://sports.yahoo.co.jp/video/player/12414872 (Japan's IP needed)

zeio · Jan 20, 2024

卓球五輪争い、優勝なら１２０ポイントの全日本で決着…平野美宇「絶対自分」伊藤美誠「諦めない」
https://www.yomiuri.co.jp/olympic/2024/20240119-OYT1T50280/

　卓球の全日本選手権が２２日、東京体育館で開幕する。今夏のパリ五輪への代表選考レースのポイント対象の最後の大会で、２０２２年３月から続いてきた女子シングルスの代表争いがついに決着する。「ここまで何かが懸かっている全日本は今までなかった」と平野美宇（木下グループ）がいう国内最高の大会は、例年以上の熱い注目を集めている。（杉野謙太郎）

平野が伊藤をリード

　選考レースでは、これまで複数回行われてきた選考会などで獲得したポイント数の上位２人がシングルス代表に選ばれる。今大会の最大の焦点は、ともに２３歳の平野と伊藤美誠（スターツ）による激しい２番手争いの行方だ。

　両者は、シングルスは２６日の４回戦から登場する。昨年末時点で、３４・５点リードしているのは平野。初出場だった東京五輪は団体戦のみの出場で、パリ五輪での個人戦へ、「最後は絶対に自分が行くんだっていう強い気持ちを持って全日本を戦い終えたい」。順当に勝ち上がれば、代表入りを確実にしている早田ひな（日本生命）と準決勝で当たる。

　後のない伊藤の行く手には、多くの強敵が待つ。初戦は昨年の世界ユース選手権Ｕ１５（１５歳以下）で個人、団体など４冠を獲得した１５歳の小塩悠菜（星槎中）との対戦が有力で、その後も前回大会で敗れた横井咲桜（ミキハウス）、勢いのある張本美和（木下アカデミー）や木原美悠（木下グループ）らと当たる可能性がある。

　「最後まで諦めはしない。挑戦者の気持ちで戦う」と伊藤は闘志を燃やす。東京五輪で金銀銅のメダル３個を獲得した無類の勝負強さで、逆転でのパリ行きはなるか。

"There has never been a Zennihon where so much is at stake," says Hirano Miu (Kinoshita Group), and the country's best tournament is attracting more attention than usual. (Kentaro Sugino)

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At the Tokyo Olympics, which was her first appearance, she only competed in the team event, and will move on to the individual event at the Paris Olympics. "I want to finish competing in Japan with a strong feeling that I will definitely go in the end." If she advances smoothly, she will face Hayata Hina (Nippon Life), who is guaranteed a spot on the national team, in the semifinal.

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Many formidable enemies await Ito's path. The first match is likely to be against 15-year-old Ojio Yuna (Seisa Junior High School), who won 4 individual and team titles at last year's World Youth Championships U15 (15 and under), and then Yokoi Sakura (Miki House), to whom she lost in the previous edition. There is a possibility that she will compete with the powerful Harimoto Miwa (Kinoshita Academy) and Kihara Miyu (Kinoshita Group).

"I will not give up until the end. I will fight like a challenger," said Ito, fueling her fighting spirit. She won 3 medals - gold, silver and bronze at the Tokyo Olympics, and with her unparalleled competitive strength, will she be able to make a comeback and go to Paris?

zeio · Jan 24, 2024

zeio said:
The field for LA 2028 will be far more contested. It's still early to tell how competitive it will be, but there are at least 5 more up-and-coming players besides Harimoto.

Continuing from where I left off:
Hirano (2000/4/14)
Hayata (2000/7/7)
Ito (2000/10/21)

Nagasaki (2002/6/15)
Yokoi (2004/4/23)
Odo (2004/5/16)
Kihara (2004/8/3)

AOKI Sachi/青木咲智 (2007/4/10)
MENDE Rin/面手凛 (2007/12/31)
TAKEYA Misuzu/竹谷美涼 (2008/4/17)
TAKAMORI Mao/高森愛央 (2008/5/15)
Harimoto (2008/6/16)
OJIO Yuna/小塩悠菜 (2008/7/5)

Where Yokoi, Odo, Takamori and Aoki are affiliated to Shitennoji and Miki House. Given Yokoi's and Odo's zero international activities in 2022 and 2023, whereas Takamori had been playing weekly for the most part since May, 2023 and Aoki started playing again in Nov, 2023, I get the impression that both Yokoi and Odo will be passed over in the next cycle, much like Nagasaki and Kihara.

Zennihon Takkyu 2024
JGS R16
Aoki 1-3 遊佐美月/YUSA Mizuki
Ojio 2-3 Takeya

JGS QF
Takamori lost 7 points in a row from 7:4 to 7:11 against 上澤杏音/UESAWA Anne in G5 after coming back strong from 1-2. Calling TO at 7:5 instead of 7:6 might've been better in retrospect. Had gamepoint in G3 after trailing for most of the game.
Takeya 1-3 兼吉優花/KANEYOSHI Yuka, the latter a chopper

JGS SF
Harimoto 3-1 Uesawa
Mende 3-1 Kaneyoshi
Uesawa forced a TO from Harimoto's dad at 7:6 of G4 after 7:4. Mende knows how to take apart a chopper.

JGS F
Harimoto 3-0 Mende
Harimoto's mind wandered off in G3 but managed to close it out.

JBS F
Matsushima 2-1 -> 2-2 -> 3-2 YOSHIYAMA Kazuki (brother of YOSHIYAMA Ryoichi)
Finally for Matsushima after how many tries?
Yoshiyama's coach didn't call TO at 7:8 after leading 7:4 in G3, but chose to "call it for Matsushima" after 8:8 (which then became 8:10 and 9:11)?
G5 21, 22 edge for Yoshiyama, 23, 73, 74 TO for Matsushima, 76, 86, 87, 97, 98, 118
The future is gloomy for this generation. Tofu mentality.

tackyfh · Jan 24, 2024

Miwa is head and shoulder above her peers right now, no competition. As for Sora, I'm glad he finally won, last year's lost against Hagihara is too sour

NextLevel · Jan 24, 2024

tackyfh said:
Miwa is head and shoulder above her peers right now, no competition. As for Sora, I'm glad he finally won, last year's lost against Hagihara is too sour

Zeio wishes the win was more confident lol.

tackyfh · Jan 24, 2024

maybe we should open a thread for All-Japan 2024 lol

pongfugrasshopper · Jan 24, 2024

Without Kihara, Miwa winning the juniors is a mere formality. Congrats to Sora Matsushima for finally winning the All Japan Junior. Incidentally, his little sister Misora Matsushima had a good run making it to the 3rd round of the juniors where her opponent was no other than Miwa Harimoto. Not bad for the 10 year old.

zeio · Jan 24, 2024

https://www.japantabletennis.com/AJ/result2023/viewList.cgi?name=%BE%BE%C5%E7%20%B5%B1%B6%F5
6th time is the charm since 2019. 4 times in the final for Matsushima (2020, 2022, 2023, 2024).

zeio · Jan 24, 2024

tackyfh said:
maybe we should open a thread for All-Japan 2024 lol

Zennihon Takkyu 2024 is tied in with Paris 2024, which will be the last leg for this 3-year-long thread.

turbozed · Jan 24, 2024

pongfugrasshopper said:
Without Kihara, Miwa winning the juniors is a mere formality. Congrats to Sora Matsushima for finally winning the All Japan Junior. Incidentally, his little sister Misora Matsushima had a good run making it to the 3rd round of the juniors where her opponent was no other than Miwa Harimoto. Not bad for the 10 year old.

Is she the one that cried after losing to Adam Bobrow? That kid is definitely a competitor! Fun to see the Matsushima family rise up the ranks.

zeio · Jan 24, 2024

zeio · Jan 24, 2024

WS R3
Ojio Y. 2-3 Nomura
One potential threat to Ito neutralized. Yuna succumbs to the curse of winning 4 titles (U15 GS/GD/XD/GT) at WYC 2023, unlike Harimoto?

driversbeat · Jan 24, 2024

Even MS and WS matches are played to best of 5 now?

apacible · Jan 24, 2024

zeio said:
WS R3
Ojio Y. 2-3 Nomura
One potential threat to Ito neutralized. Yuna succumbs to the curse of winning 4 titles (U15 GS/GD/XD/GT) at WYC 2023, unlike Harimoto?

To be fair to Moe Nomura, she's can't be taken lightly either as she has shown the ability to win matches against quality players. In T.League this season she beat Fan Siqi and Sato. Last season in T.League, she beat a series of lower Chinese players such as Wei Wensheng, Li Jiayi, and Jiang Hui. She also beat Doo Hoi Kem, Cheng I-Ching, Kihara, and Mori.

Interesting that you pointed out the curse of winning 4 U15 Titles in the WYC in 2023 for Yuna, who failed to make it past the qualification rounds in All Japan 2024. Miwa Harimoto also won 4 U15 Titles in the WYC in 2021 before losing to Miku Izumo (also dangerous) in the qualification rounds in All Japan 2022. Fun fact, just like Yuna Ojio who would have faced Ito in the R64 of All Japan 2024 had she won, had Miwa made it past qualifications in 2022, she also would have faced Ito in the R64.

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