Will the non-homogeneous cybershape bladed be outlawed too or does this only discriminate against choppers?
Very good question
But the answer is quite simple.
If the cybershape (or any other shape) will help choppers more loopers, then just ban it
But he was talking about short serve returns…
Sorry, not the way I interpreted it He only said high short balls not high short serves
Because if it is a high short serve you just whack it (flat kill) on either side. Why bothe rwith all the crazy & fancy banana flick. The banana flick has spin. Why nother with giving soem of the energy to spin when 100% of your stroke should be dedicated to maximizing the speed (I am only taking about high short ball whetehr serve or just a return from your opponent. If it is a low short ball whether serve or oppoenent's return, yes , as teh OP says, one can use banana flick , which has teh side top spin needed to control the ball & land it on other side safely)
I still see mixed doubles for Rome... (registered couple of days ago)
Sorry My bad
What is wrong with choppers?
I hate all pips & anti players. They must be banned
I don't understand why you have this crusade to make play difficult or impossible for choppers.
9 rule and regulation changes has still not forced the pips / anti players to leave the sport & leave the goodfellows alone
Do you know what an impulse is?
When I see a sexy woman...........oh never mind
How does the size of the paddle affect the range of impulses that a paddle can make? Really?!
Ok I know absolutely for sure that I get more backspin with a larger blade , a superlarge blade
If not why do think all the top choppers use large blades ?
Why did Angelica Rozeanu & many hardbat players use superlarge blades ?
Why do you think Pete May uses super large blades. They get more back spin
(BTW you also get more topspin if you are using spinny inverted rubber . But two wing loopers need smaller lighter blades when they play close to the table or mid distance for quicker hand movements)
I do not know or care about what a range of impulse is or all that physics non sense or your standard deviation etc.
I feel how I feel & I know after testing like 30 years that I can achieve a higher
looper torture index using a super large blade & high aspect ratio super pips against my illegally spoosted opponents . I am absolutely positive any other amateur or pro player can do the same if high aspect ratio super long pips are approved. But that is exactly why ITTF won't approve it.. They severely want to limit the choppers (since they cannot ban them because of political reasons) while protecting the 2.4.7 violators.
Are you saying you do not understand my whole post about proposing a 10th change is extreme sarcasm about ITTF's corrupt conduct in passing the other 9 rule & regulation changes since 1983
But I do know I can vary my backspin or to very little spin much better using a super large blade & high aspect ratio super long pips much better than most short pips users imagine in their minds that they do like Hou Yingchao.
So let me ask you this then.
Are you saying that the pip length, aspect ratio, PDD are set at the correct value by the ITTF that is fair to choppers & defenders and for a level & fair playing field &
40+ plastic ball ONLY era that would also promote spectator interest ?
I already know what your answer & blahness's etc answer is. All that does not matter. Only technique matters.
I backspin to backspin rally,
Just curious
How does this exactly work now ?
What kind of opponents would engage in this both ay pro & amateur levels ?
Compared to LP, how easy is it to chop incoming topspin with spinpip?
To understand this better you need to ask yourself the follwing few questions.
1. Which came first ? Long pips or short pips
2. What are traditional short pips designs compared to neo short pip (like spin pips) designs
3. What is the very purpose of invention of long pips ?
4. How do the operational mechanics of short pips differ from long pips & what ITTF rules or regulations control this ?
5. Can you visualize where long pips & short pips sit on the spin continuum ?
6. How does a rubber that an amateur buys (such as spin pips) differ from what the pro is given by the manufacturer (with the same brand name such as spin pips for Ding Song)
So I'm wondering... Perhaps I'm getting old to be a defender?
Definitely yes.
I used to be a far far away fom the table chopper, mostly backhand chops with Long pips & forehand lobbing & some counter-looping away from table & ick hitting at the table mostly using forehand
But I probably have lost 50% of foot speed now.
I can still chop away from the table & I have been learning to chop using both long pips & inverted from forehand
Even though choppers are far superior athletes (but loopers have brilliantly brainwashed them into believing them the opposite & I always admired loopers in a strange sort of way for this amazing powers of persuasion) in all fairness loopers slow down as well.
So the only solution seems to be staying close to the table blocking but you need excellent reflexes & feel for this & these are worst parts of my game . But I have no choice as I age. So I have been learning to stay close & block covering the entire table using long pips. This is a hard transition but no other options.
When you say defender there are in general two kinds of defenders. One is (away from the table) choppers and other is close to the table blockers. So it seems that you are an away from the table chopper
running back and forth to be close to the table, far from the table,
Don't forget left to right as well, covering the most extreme angles.
Though luckily I never had any knee problems (except for aging related just as getting up from sitting down etc) sometimes I can feel like the knee is going to come off its socket (or whatever medical term for that) anytime if I try to move left or right a bit too fast.
So I wear knee compression supports as a preventive measure.
I got a better appreciation for this when a 4 feet 5 inch 10 year old kid challenged me to a one on one game in basketball. I only laughed because I am like 6'1" and an ex high school & college player. Of course I did not play because it is an unfair matchup but more because I did not want to break my knees and other parts of my body. i have learned to limit myself to just shooting NBA 3 pointers and NBA 4 point experimental markers under testing & even this is very painful on my elbow & shoulder. Sad part is that I was a leaper who could dunk (when it was illegal then) & I feel lucky if I can touch the bottom of the net now
I am currently using an all around type high aspect ratio super long pips OX (Magic 77). more so because good chopping type high aspet ratio super long pips are still not available yet. You may want to try that for your transition to close to the table & learn to play close to the table with occasional chopping.
Currently only the singles finals are 7 games
Also should at least doubles finals also be 7 games ?
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Fun is actually so important.
No. Fun is just a good byproduct.
You either compete (I used to) or play just for exercise (like now) .
Losing is ok but claiming to play only to have fun is an excuse to explain away losing.
Bad loser
Extremely dangerous setup for a pro club with unbarriered tables with high risk of players stepping on balls and a serious injury. (I think they have the barriers)
ITTF needs to define some recommended standards for proper tabletennis setups (to include barriers even for recreational clubs. With doubles (not here) the risk of injury increases
The video below maybe the proper way to do multi-ball
https://youtu.be/iCgHBTPBq_Q
Another player quickly removes the balls (this reduces the risk of injury of the player in training stepping on a ball & falling down)
Of course a ball picker tool is needed for a faster cleanup
Maasimo is well known but how many of you recognize the player picking up the balls ?
Of course the tables are barriered
<Make me a moderator I wil ban the guy posting in red. Ban Bana Ban > When I get tired, someone else takes over.
I don't think he will ever give it a rest, not after so many decades
Oh come on Tony'sTable tennis . Pleased give me a break. It has benn only just 9 rule & regulation changes since 1983 to oppress choppers / defenders. This is my written promise I will stop after 15 changes
or
ITTF bans all pips / anti
or
IOC expels Table Tennis from Olympics to replace it with Pole Dancing
This is the problem with your limited thinking inside the box.
If ITTF bans me, I could play in lots of tournaments in USA and worldwide that are that are not affiliated with ITTF or its affiliates like USATT etc.
In fact I beg the USATT to ban me. That would be the ultimate badge of honor.
ITTF or its affiliates are not the sole supreme authority for the sport of table tennis though ITTF would like everyone to think so.
Also ITTF affiliates do not have to enforce every ITTF rule or regulation in their sanctioned tournaments.
For example , starting in November, 2000, USATT officially waived the two color rule of 1983. Not many players know this because they think two color rule applies to all USATT tournaments just because it applies to ITTF events, which is farthest from the truth.
Why do you think ITTF had not banned all pips and anti, though they would love to.
It is because they do not want pips & anti players to form their own association and this would result in dilution of control & loss of revenue. ITTF learned its lesson in 1995 when ITTF tried to impose the glue ban when the glue freaks (Rev.Larry Hodges had a biggest voice in USA) threatened to form their own association & ITTF immediately backed off & repealed the glue bam immediately.
This is why ITTF is even afraid to enforce the
booster ban of 2008 with rule 2.4.7 . That rule exists just to hoodwink the ITTF into thinking that tabletennis a safe sport & there are no health issues related to glue.
Was supposed to be a joke but I will entertain this nonsense. I'm sure I speak for most when I say we don't care why the ITTF banned pibs / anti. None of us are interested in your agenda.
But you did entertain my so called nonsense because you keep responding or joking about it
Please don'r stop . I need the bump