Marty Supreme: Gambling Degenerate will revive American Table Tennis

[hassancooking]

 

[GSpotSniper]

I hope this movie inspires at least a few young-uns to start up TT in USA. All of our talent is funneled to football, basketball, etc. We just need a prodigy athletic freak like Lebron James to win Olympic gold for us once to usher in a new golden era of American TT XD

 

[hassancooking]

I hope this movie inspires at least a few young-uns to start up TT in USA. All of our talent is funneled to football, basketball, etc. We just need a prodigy athletic freak like Lebron James to win Olympic gold for us once to usher in a new golden era of American TT XD

You’re right, the talent is here, it just gets drafted into football and basketball before it ever reaches a ping pong table. What we need is one Lebron shaped athlete to break through, win on the biggest stage, and suddenly the whole country sees table tennis as a real path. That’s when the golden era starts.

 

[GSpotSniper]

You’re right, the talent is here, it just gets drafted into football and basketball before it ever reaches a ping pong table. What we need is one Lebron shaped athlete to break through, win on the biggest stage, and suddenly the whole country sees table tennis as a real path. That’s when the golden era starts.

And get TT into middle and high schools! School teams just like Asia!

 

[igorponger]

Back in 1959, ITTF did wished hardbat as an only choice, no sponge. Marty Reisman had always been an adamant proponent for hardbat, for many years he cherished sweety dreams of winning a worldwide glory. Ultimately, ITTF had made a decision in favour of sponge, thus badly frustrating Marty's best hopes.

Настольный теннис. Как укрощали бардак и анархию 1959 год.

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[Chunkyrock]

And get TT into middle and high schools! School teams just like Asia!

In nyc we hav both a middle and high school leagues

 

[pongfugrasshopper]

I hope I'm wrong, but I'm just not seeing a long pants Marty Reisman playing hardbat doing much for the perception of table tennis. We actually do have a lot of things going for us albeit slowly: a national training center in 888, MLTT, a legit top 25 male player in Kanak, US Smash (I know.. I know... but it'll get better), etc. What we really need is to get TT into elementary schools, but how to is the difficulty. I wish the film luck though.

 

[lightspin]

I knew Marty and actually hit with him a few times. He was a character. I think the movie will be entertaining but do not expect it to revolutionize table tennis in the USA.

 

[BlopChock]

Too bad they cast Kevin O'Leary in it and made his presence well known in the trailer. Think that may prevent many non-TT folks from going to see this that may well have, otherwise.

 

[GSpotSniper]

In nyc we hav both a middle and high school leagues

Wow I did not know that! So jealous, nothing like this in the south

 

[Matt Hetherington]

I'm looking forward to it but I don't think this movie will have a very long-lasting impact on table tennis. A lot of people are extremely hyped about it. I think it's going to be a great film and will spike interest in the sport and give it some good publicity, but I think it will be quite short-term - I can't see it having as big an impact as an Olympic Games, but we will see. My biggest hope is that they keep as much real table tennis rallying in as possible and avoid any CGI. The only problem is the general american public can't tell the difference haha

I did see that streams of Bob Dylan's music increased by 200% after that A24 film with Chalamet, so it will be interesting to see the degree of impact it can have on table tennis, and whether it will be people playing at home mostly or people finding public places to play.

 

[NextLevel]

Wow I did not know that! So jealous, nothing like this in the south

It took some enthusiastic volunteers to organize and NY is smaller and easier to commute over.

 

[NextLevel]

Beware of being too enthusiastic about a movie's message and impact before you have seen it. It might say something subtly or completely different from what you expect.

 

[Tony's Table Tennis]

What we really need is to get TT into elementary schools, but how to is the difficulty. I wish the film luck though.

if you have a lot of rich folks,
what is stopping say, identify an area/district and see how many elementary schools - ie 10 schools.
Get your rich folks to sponsor 40 tables and each school gets 4 tables.
get a table tennis club in the area, to teach these 10 school table tennis and aim to have a 10 school league system in a year.

basically the club to run the program until the school hires a coach - and if budget is a problem, the rich guy funds the project.

inside 3 to 5 years, the program could be 20 to 50 kids per school and if the kids are paying some fees this would sub-stain itself and cover the costs of coaches and maintenance/balls/buying more tables etc.
the cost to start and maintain a table tennis program is a lot cheaper than many other sporting codes.
at most, it just need a storage space for those tables on the school grounds.

the rich guy or club still runs the league and your small area has 300-500 kids for that academic year, then some goes to high school, and new intake comes in, and over 10-20 years, you have thousands of table tennis players from this program, from 1 small district.

so the question is, how many people are driving this initiative?

I think I talk about this close to 5 or 10 years ago, but everyone is just waiting for someone else to do something.
I started (and/or assisted others to start) near 10 schools of table tennis in South Africa and help some of the coaches to work full time in table tennis. Granted, some program failed and closed, but I think half of them are still alive and well today.

 

[lightspin]

I don't think he died alone. He definitely had a lot of friends in New York. He also wasn't forgotten. Walk into any SPIN and you can see videos about him. His picture is also everywhere.

 

[wingman]

I have always thought the way to make table tennis more popular with the general public was through a hit movie. Past attempts like Forest Gump and Balls of Fury failed because they treated table tennis as a joke. A great movie needs either a great plot or great character development. Marty Reisman certainly was a character, so it has that going for it. But this movie shows table tennis as it was 60 or 70 years ago. People who see this and go to a local club to play with their cheap hard bat they use in their basement will be frustrated and quit. They will find out they need to spend $300 to buy a competitive racket. I thought a movie about ping pong diplomacy would be a good idea. Glenn Cowan's accidentally getting on the Chinese team bus at the world championships and results would be a good story. As an aside, in the 1980's I played some tournaments in Portland, Oregon when Dean Doyle was the US hardbat champion. He lived in the venue and I stayed overnight in some rooms they had downstairs with mattresses in them. After the tournament was over for the day we would go out for pizza, then come back and Dean would play challenge matches for money. He was highly rated in sponge also. He used his hardbat while his opponents used their sponge bats and he still won.

 

[Lando]

Very little money compared to the major sports in the US.
I can go make thousands playing TT or millions (potentially 100s of millions) playing basketball, football or baseball.
Shit, even combat sports pay way more

 

[LilyKroger]

The mix of ego, money, and love for the game reminds me of a wild night in a casino, with chips flying like it’s blackjack or roulette and someone chasing that jackpot. If Marty knows how to handle serious betting pressure, he might turn the sport into a profitable show, not just a hobby for die hard fans. In the middle of all this talk about risk and reward I kept thinking about how smart players study odds, bonuses, and bankroll strategy on sites like https://magyarkaszinooldalak.com/legjobb-kaszinok/uj-kaszino/ because having info can change your game and mindset. Whether it’s slots or table tennis, the thrill of the bet and the chance to win cash is what keeps people hooked.

I kinda agree with a lot of you - it’s fun and might get more folks talking about ping pong, but I doubt it’s gonna revive American TT by itself. Sure, more people might sign up at clubs or schools because of the movie hype, and ping-pong merch and tables are popping up everywhere, but real growth comes from infrastructure and programs, not just one character film.

 

[TampaBayTableTennis]

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