My Mizutani Super ZLC Plus Tenergy 05

[Rajah*]

Ive been reading on your comments and You are way above your head kuka.. take a bite on your FAKE blade [emoji25]

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[laistrogian]

The sweet spot is so huge that all you have to do is worry about your footwork
I am the only one using Mizu here they all use Gergely lol classic

Classic SE Asians setup, Primorac carbon or gergely lol

 

[UpSideDownCarl]

Just to put some perspective into the blade, although the JM SZLC with ternergy is fast, its not crazy fast. In fact I find that in most cases, ALC blades have shorter dwell time than ZLC and the ball leaves the blade faster giving less control. MY JM ZLC flexes when looping which gives more dwell and more control. The ball travels faster than ALC but the control is better. Heck I play better and with more control than my TB ALC. So eventhough he is using a JM SZLC with T05, its not too uncontrollable if you're decent/ above average.

One factor here may be the outer wood ply. The ALC blades you are referring to are probably all the ones with a Koto outer ply like the Viscaria, ZJK ALC and Timo Boll ALC.

The JM blades have a Limba outer ply which is slower, softer, and has more dwell time and control. It would be interesting to see what has more dwell time if they made a JM ALC. Because Arylate is softer and slower than Zylon. So if you compared the Timo Boll ALC to the Timo Boll ZLC, the ALC has more dwell.

And, my money says that if you compare the JM ZLC to an InnerForce ALC, that the IF ALC will have more dwell time. But that is still not a good comparison because IF ALC has 2 layers of Limba before the ALC layer and I believe the JM only has one layer of Limba before the ZLC layer.


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[kukamonga]

Ive been reading on your comments and You are way above your head kuka.. take a bite on your FAKE blade [emoji25]

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when I get home I will pet and kiss and hug my fake zjkszlc.
do you want me to tell her anything when I meet her?
I hope she doesn't get jealous when my lover the mizutani szlc comes home.....
actually I will have two lovers, amultart is also coming home.

 

[Rajah*]

Nah.. i have no interest with fakes.. only deluded&lunatic does

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[kukamonga]

Nah.. i have no interest with fakes.. only deluded&lunatic does

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ah I see in your signature you are using the same blade as me.....
give me high five!

 

[harveyaquino]

What happened to your Akrasia?

 

[RajaLoopah]

What happened to your Akrasia?

Too unstable in high spin shots lol
The blade itself lacks the "ugh" haha

 

[SilentRain]

One factor here may be the outer wood ply. The ALC blades you are referring to are probably all the ones with a Koto outer ply like the Viscaria, ZJK ALC and Timo Boll ALC.

The JM blades have a Limba outer ply which is slower, softer, and has more dwell time and control. It would be interesting to see what has more dwell time if they made a JM ALC. Because Arylate is softer and slower than Zylon. So if you compared the Timo Boll ALC to the Timo Boll ZLC, the ALC has more dwell.

And, my money says that if you compare the JM ZLC to an InnerForce ALC, that the IF ALC will have more dwell time. But that is still not a good comparison because IF ALC has 2 layers of Limba before the ALC layer and I believe the JM only has one layer of Limba before the ZLC layer.


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That is probably true as well. But irregardless, because he is still using a JM SZLC which is limba, its really not that uncontrollable due to the nice dwell. Now we need someone who has TB ALC and TB ZLC to make a proper comparison

 

[laistrogian]

One factor here may be the outer wood ply. The ALC blades you are referring to are probably all the ones with a Koto outer ply like the Viscaria, ZJK ALC and Timo Boll ALC.

The JM blades have a Limba outer ply which is slower, softer, and has more dwell time and control. It would be interesting to see what has more dwell time if they made a JM ALC. Because Arylate is softer and slower than Zylon. So if you compared the Timo Boll ALC to the Timo Boll ZLC, the ALC has more dwell.

And, my money says that if you compare the JM ZLC to an InnerForce ALC, that the IF ALC will have more dwell time. But that is still not a good comparison because IF ALC has 2 layers of Limba before the ALC layer and I believe the JM only has one layer of Limba before the ZLC layer.


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I don't know the core difference between michael maze and MJ SZLC but I own both and MJ SZLC definitely has less dwell time

 

[UpSideDownCarl]

That is probably true as well. But irregardless, because he is still using a JM SZLC which is limba, its really not that uncontrollable due to the nice dwell. Now we need someone who has TB ALC and TB ZLC to make a proper comparison

I agree JM blades have more control and are pretty nice. Limba goes much better with ZLC than Koto does.

I have tested. TB ALC is slower and has better dwell time than TB ZLC. The Timo Boll Spark was a blade with Arylate and no carbon (AL). Same wood construction as the other TB blades. Just different composite ply. The TB Spark is slower and has more dwell time than the TB ZLF.

Zylon being faster than Arylate is why Butterfly thought Zylon would be the upgrade-innovation. But it seems more pros like Arylate than Zylon.

I don't know the core difference between michael maze and MJ SZLC but I own both and MJ SZLC definitely has less dwell time

Yep. Exactly. MMaze is very similar to JM except Maze is ALC with Limba top ply and JM is ZLC and/or SZLC with Limba top ply.


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[RajaLoopah]

Does anyone agree that a heavier Tenergy performs better than a lighter one?

 

[laistrogian]

Does anyone agree that a heavier Tenergy performs better than a lighter one?

Yep. Afterall, tenergy is all about the sponge.

 

[RajaLoopah]

Yep. Afterall, tenergy is all about the sponge.

haha yes yes the heavier and denser the better

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[kukamonga]

specially when combined with your fake zjkszlc

 

[RajaLoopah]

specially when combined with your fake zjkszlc

Yeah your monstrous zjkszlc lol

 

[RajaLoopah]

Classic SE Asians setup, Primorac carbon or gergely lol

Tamca is really very popular here in Philippines
Gergely, Schlager and Sardius

but our national team is sponsored by Donic and Joola
they all use Bluefire and Rhyzm
When you buy Tenergy here in PH from their sponsor companies it costs around $94
I think a ploy to eradicate the Butterfly virus hahaha and promote D and J

 

[laistrogian]

Tamca is really very popular here in Philippines
Gergely, Schlager and Sardius

but our national team is sponsored by Donic and Joola
they all use Bluefire and Rhyzm
When you buy Tenergy here in PH from their sponsor companies it costs around $94
I think a ploy to eradicate the Butterfly virus hahaha and promote D and J

Yep the trinity blades in SE Asia basically. I'm from SE Asia myself and I used to use Schlager carbon with Omega IV Pro. I miss the days of smashing with that setup...

 

[RajaLoopah]

Yep the trinity blades in SE Asia basically. I'm from SE Asia myself and I used to use Schlager carbon with Omega IV Pro. I miss the days of smashing with that setup...

Haha the Holy Trinity there are a lot of classics here in the PH
many players prefer the black tags than the newer ones/versions released by butterfly
I am the only one using a Butterfly setup here in our province lol. They don't like
the Tenergy because of the price and according to them it is uncontrollable.

Wow you use MX-S in your forehand isn't that a bit heavy? I was using MX-S back then
the rubber lacks the catapault that the MX-P has but the spin produced is really something.

 

[harveyaquino]

MX-S is really good. Although I'm using MX-P right now, I still miss the spin of MX-S. MX-P is easier to play with though, just like Tenergy05. But you can have more variety of spin with MX-S, just like Hurricane rubbers.