New Xiom Blades Series: Hugo Calderano and Lee Seungsoo (TMX / ALX)

[andzejgolot]

What do you mean?

Please learn more about inner and outer construction

 

[Yurifi]

I think they reworked gluing handle with wings and it makes them high throw which is the easiest way to Play topspin

well, to be completely honest ... I don't exactly know, what do you mean, too ...

what has handle, with wings, to do with reworked gluing, high throw and inner and outer construction?

 

[andzejgolot]

Blade Has different shape and different throw angle. An jaehyun is crispy and very low throw blade so ball is really low. Hugo tmxi pro has different trajectory...
I used ovtcharov alc, harimoto alc, layer alc, innerforce alc. Ovtcharov alc has lower throw than all mentioned, so Hugo tmxi pro should have lower throw than an jaehyun tmxi... Sometimes you can change the blade with different shape of handle and wings. You can clear difference between Timo Boll alc and viscaria.
I dont care I will not respond.

 

[Yurifi]

Blade Has different shape and different throw angle. An jaehyun is crispy and very low throw blade so ball is really low. Hugo tmxi pro has different trajectory...
I used ovtcharov alc, harimoto alc, layer alc, innerforce alc. Ovtcharov alc has lower throw than all mentioned, so Hugo tmxi pro should have lower throw than an jaehyun tmxi... Sometimes you can change the blade with different shape of handle and wings. You can clear difference between Timo Boll alc and viscaria.
I dont care I will not respond.

sorry, there must be some kind of language barrier between us, I am not provoking, not at all, I just want to understand what you mean. 😀 at least in regards to handle and wings - because I have no idea how handle and wings would affect playability. the shape of the head (bigger head) and thickness I agree and understand, but cannot see how wings and handle could affect it ...

on the other hand, I understand the first part, yes, much clearer.

but for the general debate - I started thinking about the throw - I don't think that the ball throw is blade's property - I dare say that blade inherits some of the throw in combination with rubbers used. I cannot imagine how blade could have throw angle, because it cannot grip the ball. but, on the other hand, I didn't understand how blade can affect spin and rotation of the ball, and now I do, now I know dwell time has something to do with it so in regards to the throw angle, I could be quite wrong.

 

[Yurifi]

I took this pic during the WTT Ljubljana Star Contender ... I tried to pull as much detail out of the photo as possible, but it is clearly visible, that layers are just as in the regular hal. maybe thickness of layers isn't the same but point being, as there were quite some discussions about Hugo actually not playing with Hugo HAL - well, I guess this is the proof, that he is.

especially if you compare it to ttgearlab's (Xiom Hugo HAL review) layer pic:

 

[doppelmoral]

I took this pic during the WTT Ljubljana Star Contender ... I tried to pull as much detail out of the photo as possible, but it is clearly visible, that layers are just as in the regular hal. maybe thickness of layers isn't the same but point being, as there were quite some discussions about Hugo actually not playing with Hugo HAL - well, I guess this is the proof, that he is.

especially if you compare it to ttgearlab's (Xiom Hugo HAL review) layer pic:

Thank you for this, very insightful and a nice high quality picture you were able to take at the Star Contender

 

[andzejgolot]

For me it looks like SAL. Which is known info from ttbl.de that he used very heavy SAL around 94 grams in 2019? then they put HAL worldwide because Super Arylate was Butterfly trademark.
Probably there is no big difference between them except weight.

 

[Yurifi]

so, after 6 extensive playing sessions with Hugo ALX we are a bit in a love & hate relationship. backhand in combination with Xiom Vega Pro is great. with Tibhar MXP50 was also quite good but a bit too fast. bit still playable. on forehand I started with Yasaka Rakza Z and Hurricane 9 Violet and it was … I felt there was something missing. any suggestions?

 

[doppelmoral]

so, after 6 extensive playing sessions with Hugo ALX we are a bit in a love & hate relationship. backhand in combination with Xiom Vega Pro is great. with Tibhar MXP50 was also quite good but a bit too fast. bit still playable. on forehand I started with Yasaka Rakza Z and Hurricane 9 Violet and it was … I felt there was something missing. any suggestions?

my suggestion for you is to go back to ajh tmxi or try to get your hands on a ajh tmxi pro

 

[andzejgolot]

so, after 6 extensive playing sessions with Hugo ALX we are a bit in a love & hate relationship. backhand in combination with Xiom Vega Pro is great. with Tibhar MXP50 was also quite good but a bit too fast. bit still playable. on forehand I started with Yasaka Rakza Z and Hurricane 9 Violet and it was … I felt there was something missing. any suggestions?

I always think their blade - rubbers work the best. Buy some c52...

 

[andzejgolot]

For me it looks like SAL. Which is known info from ttbl.de that he used very heavy SAL around 94 grams in 2019? then they put HAL worldwide because Super Arylate was Butterfly trademark.
Probably there is no big difference between them except weight.

Hugo didnt like composites and carbon
Sal has white color which is hard to see if you are not lookin on the edge all the time...
So they send him blades with white arylate and he didnt even notice the composite and that's why Xiom discountined HAL because Calderano didnt even use IT and they cant put SAL anymore

 

[Grahf]

Bought both Hugo´s, the ALX Pro and the TMXi Pro on FL from tabletennis11, and goddamn Xiom has a really good quality control on their blades, also the handles are really good and they look as well.

I asked for the heaviest they had and I got both on 86g.

Xiom Hugo ALX Pro FL: 86.16g, 1485 Hz
Xiom Hugo TMXi Pro FL: 86g, 1421 Hz