Please make a 50d dragon grip!

[TensorBackhand]

If you find yourself in Stockholm/Sweden, you can visit the Stiga showroom. They have 4 tables set up, and all their different blades and rubber setups (including Dragon Power ) that you can try out. They even have a pro there who you can play against, who, if your are interested, will give you free advice on what suits your game best.

That sounds awesome.

 

[merlin el mago]

Tensor is the name of the technology to replace speed glue from ESN.

If I remember correctly first was Butterfly with Tenergy....

 

[Migzkulit]

If I remember correctly first was Butterfly with Tenergy....

"From ESN" Tensor is their trademark tech

 

[_ak]

"From ESN" Tensor is their trademark tech

And rubbers with this technology have a special logo in the branding part. Fastarc G1/C1 doesn't

 

[Migzkulit]

And rubbers with this technology have a special logo in the branding part. Fastarc G1/C1 doesn't

There are many rubbers that don't mention Tensor specifically, especially on the rubber itself. They use other terms to mention it if they do.

On another note, Dragon Power uses Platinum's sponge and Dragon Grip's topsheet? Dragon Power has a thinner sponge, so thicker topsheet like normal Chinese rubbers. This may be more of a hybrid than DNA Hybrid.

 

[Scarfed Garchomp]

And rubbers with this technology have a special logo in the branding part. Fastarc G1/C1 doesn't

A lot of Tensors do not have the Tensor logo on them. Bluefire and Evolution some examples

 

[Zwill]

If I remember correctly first was Butterfly with Tenergy....

Maybe no. I used to play with Catapult from Butterfly when I was pretty small. That one advertised as High Tension rubber that has built in speedglue effect.

 

[_ak]

A lot of Tensors do not have the Tensor logo on them. Bluefire and Evolution some examples

I don't know about these. And there is a question whether to call Yinhe max-tense rubbers tensors or not 🙂

 

[Peter93]

If I remember correctly first was Butterfly with Tenergy....

Nah. Tensors have been around for much longer than that. Below is an advertisement from Table Tennis Goods 2001:

Bryce came out in 1997 which was Butterfly's first High Tension rubber (although the original packaging didn't say High Tension on it).

 

[OvrChkn]

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Roughly 70 Euro ($77ish) for the Dragon Power line.

 

[Scarfed Garchomp]

I don't know about these. And there is a question whether to call Yinhe max-tense rubbers tensors or not 🙂

Tensors are only made by ESN, in Germany. If it's not made by ESN then it is technically not a Tensor

 

[Peter93]

Cool. Sounds nice, but how is it different from DG

Looking purely from the statistics Stiga has provided, it's obviously much faster and comes in the two extra hardnesses. According to Stiga, the Dragon Power has the Power Sponge Cell which the Platinum series has, but so does the Hybrid series (but the hybrid series stops at 52.5) I love Dragon Grip, but a little bit easier power would be nice. Even on my Ebenholz VII I was surprised that the combination of extra hard rubber and stiff blade would work, but it was great. However it became very laborious to use and Dragon Grip is not an easy rubber to play with so the Dragon Power 52.5 might be my next purchase.

 

[JJ Ng]

I don't know about these. And there is a question whether to call Yinhe max-tense rubbers tensors or not 🙂

Yinhe Max-Tense rubbers are definitely not anywhere close to any tensor rubber I have used. There is little to no catapult effect on these max-tense sponge. I think it is just a regular Chinese rubber with not too much tackiness. That's pretty much all marketing.

 

[_ak]

Tensors are only made by ESN, in Germany. If it's not made by ESN then it is technically not a Tensor

I know as it's their trademark. But it doesn't necessary mean that all ESN rubbers are tensors.

 

[merlin el mago]

Maybe no. I used to play with Catapult from Butterfly when I was pretty small. That one advertised as High Tension rubber that has built in speedglue effect.

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Can be like the first protos before to make the TGY, I never seen this rubber.

 

[merlin el mago]

Well BTY was the first to introduce Tensor technology and ESN copied.

 

[General_Specific]

Xiom Omega VIII Hybrid is 50 degrees and will release later this year

 

[Zwill]

Can be like the first protos before to make the TGY, I never seen this rubber.

Well something like that, but Catapult is about as old as Bryce. The very first racket I used was some "hand me down" Butterfly blade with 2 sheets of D13 if I remember well and my first own racket was Boll Spirit with 2 Catapults. This was early 2000s, so yeah in a sense this was one of the first rubbers that didn't need speed glue and that is why my dad bought this for me and it was a really great rubber too, just not many used it since everyone was sniffing speedglue back then and probably actual speedglue had a better effect. (but still while everyone was blaming their bad gluejob I didn't have an issue so consistency is also important)
I still remember the first coversheets had a drawing of some guy skateboarding on it and later it was changed to a meteorite or something like that.

But when Tenergy was released it was night and day better than Catapult, but stuff like Joola Energy or Andro Plasma (or I don't even remember what was the first gen non-speed glue crap from ESN) were worse.
Anyway not so bad to think back to some good old childhood memories

 

[Zwill]

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Roughly 70 Euro ($77ish) for the Dragon Power line.

Sounds to me it's more worth for people to start learning how to use sticky Chinese rubbers.

I suppose 38deg H8-80 or 39deg PF4-50 would be right around the corner to compete with ~50deg ESN hybrid.

 

[TensorBackhand]

Xiom Omega VIII Hybrid is 50 degrees and will release later this year

nice! that sounds promising.

Except I don't understand why Xiom has Omega hybrid and J&H hybrid??