Upgrade advice

[nivekkan]

I think The youtube channel EmRatthich provide really good info on how to develop your skills.
I find these 2 videos exceptionally helpful for choosing blades and rubbers
However, keep in mind that he is a Chinese style coach(actually a Vietnamese live in France teaching Chinese style TT using English ) so if you do not want to go with this route like mart1nandersson, take some of his more specific advise sparingly.

 

[BryanY]

You said that you are a huge fan of inner carbon, but nobilis is not an inner carbon. Does it mean that you are a even bigger fan of outer carbon XD. Or do you use two rackets? one with inner carbon for fun and another with outer carbon when you mean business?

I consider the Nobilis to be inner carbon because it's a 3 + 2 blade and the outer plies are more than twice as thick as a normal outer ply (1.2mm). So, if you look at the overall thickness of the blade, the carbon is closer to the core and there is 1.2mm between the wood and the carbon (like an inner blade).

 

[UpSideDownCarl]

I think you mentioned this friend a lot. Maybe you should start copying these paragraphs into a word document so when someone needs a good story, you just can paste it on.

The fact that my friend had so much power despite the old fashioned equipment is an object lesson for newer players who are looking for faster equipment. It is worth improving technique first without the faster equipment. Then when you don't truly need the faster equipment because your technique is so good, that is when the faster equipment is more useful.

I have also used the info about ML using an Acoustic till quite late in his development for the same reason.

Maybe I have written that story 10 times in the past. Probably not too much more than that. I would rather retell it as the issue arises than have something silly like that saved somewhere to go find it. My old man mind still can find it in my head quite fast enough.

 

[Der_Echte]

One of the big reasons an older coach will say to go to an even slower rebounding rubber is so that one can learn how to generate and transfer power by using something that is inherently more difficult to do so... so that later one can easily generate power and spin... so that later one can be a real bad-azz with faster gear.

That is the condensed reasons why an old school pundit says stuff like that. I would agree. If the joker says it is the only way, then I would cuss up a storm. There are many ways.

 

[nivekkan]

he carbon is closer to the core.

Didn't know you can define inner carbon by comparing how close it is to core than surface. Now I know.

 

[nivekkan]

It would be silly if anyone actually do something like this.

 

[BryanY]

Didn't know you can define inner carbon by comparing how close it is to core than surface. Now I know.

You don't agree? The inner vs outer thing is usually a classification for 5 + 2 blades.

Blades with 3 wood plies are way less common. But for practical purposes there is still over 1mm of outter veneer between the surface of the blade and the carbon (like an inner force blade). That's why I use the Nobilis, because I don't have a hard outter surface making my touch shots difficult (unlike Viscaria, Energon, Zelebro, etc..).

 

[nivekkan]

You don't agree? The inner vs outer thing is usually a classification for 5 + 2 blades.

What does 5+2 or 3+2 means anyways? "5+2" means 5 layers of wood + 2 layers of carbon? "3+2" means 3 layers of wood + 2 layers of carbon?

If that is true, then inner means the carbons are no.3 and no.5 whereas the outer means the carbons are no.2 and no.6. But nobilis is a 3+2 blade so it doesn't fit in either definition. I guess it depends how thick is the surface layer. if the surface layer is thin, there is no difference from an outer carbon. Though where do you draw the line for a 3+2 blade?

 

[Der_Echte]

5+2 generally means MORE EXPENSIVE than 3+2

The industry has a secret formula to determine market pricing... to make a simplification of their complicated algorithm, approximate by this method... multiply the first number by 20 USD and if it is a "super version, spin the magic wheel with slot multiples ranging from 75 USD to 100 USD.

 

[nivekkan]

5+2 generally means MORE EXPENSIVE than 3+2

The industry has a secret formula to determine market pricing... to make a simplification of their complicated algorithm, approximate by this method... multiply the first number by 20 USD and if it is a "super version, spin the magic wheel with slot multiples ranging from 75 USD to 100 USD.

Sorry I didn't get the funny bit of the joke. Does it mean that 5+2 are unreasonably expensive? 3+2 are worth the penny for their functionality?

 

[Der_Echte]

Generally, it means that because there is a higher number in the title, the company can demand, and often get, a higher price for nonsense reasons. it never has anything to do with the performance of the blade, unless a famous TT player and "Super" are added to the title... and even then it can still be a sucky blade.

One would understand the humor if one had been watching the organized nonsense pricing rationale for blades and TT equipment over the years.

This vid touches on the methodology a little.

 

[nivekkan]

Generally, it means that because there is a higher number in the title, the company can demand, and often get, a higher price for nonsense reasons. it never has anything to do with the performance of the blade, unless a famous TT player and "Super" are added to the title... and even then it can still be a sucky blade.

One would understand the humor if one had been watching the organized nonsense pricing rationale for blades and TT equipment over the years.

This vid touches on the methodology a little.

Thx. That is true and funny at the same time.