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focus on control and star adding spin, little spin.
try and get 10 or 20 on, and incrementally add the power/spin
Alright then.
You are asking one of the top questions of the century for amateur players.

it comes down to setting position, leverage.... then timing and controlled independent SEQUENCE of EXPLOSION... which is colorful words for how one transfers power.

How you position feet in both width and direction orientation, knee bend, waist lowering, bowing of waist sets leverage... how you time your sequence is key, it is something you have to feel and learn for yourself.

Avoid super long motions, they do not give you leverage and wreck your timing. Position with leverage and timing are key and it takes a while to develop this.

Setting the strike zone is uber important. You have to see the opponent's impact well to do this and think in your subconscious. So this means you do not think consciously and will yourself, that interferes with everything and makes it all take too long.
I see, so everything 💀
But fair enough I'll try to always get in position first
btw, are you filming in your boxers?
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Alright then.

I see, so everything 💀
But fair enough I'll try to always get in position first

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Getting into position first means many things to many people. As someone with limited footwork, my position has always been that you need to always focus on aligning your swing with the ball before going through your strike zone.any good technique has a strike zone and the best technique has a comfortably large strike zone so that you don't whiff the ball often under pressure. People who just swing at the ball without an understanding of where and how they intend to hit it can't develop high level control and footwork. Or maybe they can through repetition and subconscious improvement. I was too old when I started to do that.
 
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Anyone looking at NL at first glance would be deceived about NL getting into position with leverage.

He has real long levers and doesn't need to be in a classic position with more hip dip. He dips enough given his knees and it is enough.

This also allows him to be compact when he wants to be. He commands his strike zone well and has timing many do not realize.

That counts a LOT.
 
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So far, Ive tried to make my FH more compact and my BH more stable elbow. Lemme know what you guys think, since i felt really off today...

Only FH is avaliable rn, bh and match is still loading
Only watched forehand. Agree with another user. Much better to play much slower, get more balls on the table and learn how to move. Try to move first and then hit. Maybe filming your legs will make it more evident that you are not moving.
Forehand i think is a little better, less armswing good! Still think you could exaggerate even more in the beginning. If im coching you from the other side of the table i need to se your shoulders moving from pararell to the side, i think you could exaggerate this a bit more. If we are used to something, for example forehandgrip and a coach teach neutral grip i believe the player will go back to what they are used to. But if we teach backhandgrip they will return to neutral grip. Same thing with your forehand.

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Maybe filming your legs will make it more evident that you are not moving.
For this it's cuz I'm doing drillings. And I'm not good at training footwork so I only practice that in coaching sessions xd

For all other parts of the comment, thank you for the tips! I have no comment, just follow :)
 
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the room is very narrow and we can't see your whole body with the camera angle. in TT you have to use your legs and whole body.

@PenHoldSandro I think you've posted a lot recently and monopolized the thread while already got a lot of advice. I think you should find a good club with good coach as you seem very motivated. no amount of internet advice will replace coaching and actual practice.
 
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@PenHoldSandro I think you've posted a lot recently and monopolized the thread while already got a lot of advice. I think you should find a good club with good coach as you seem very motivated. no amount of internet advice will replace coaching and actual practice.
I know 😎

I haven't been to coaching recently due to 1 event after the other, so I'll probably slow down with videos after I get it started again. Also, I'm not posting for advice, since I already got them. I'm posting to make sure I'm following the said advice properly.
 
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I did trying to shorten up my strokes, also not to reach for the ball in backhand and trying to bend and engaging legs more, so now my form looks like this:
But I feel it takes a loot more time to get better at this
 
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I had a crazy session yesterday, will upload more videos. But so far, this is the best shot-my friend's around the net and my block down the line-Waldner vs Liu Guo Liang 1999 style.

 
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I did trying to shorten up my strokes, also not to reach for the ball in backhand and trying to bend and engaging legs more, so now my form looks like this:
But I feel it takes a loot more time to get better at this
Your BH will experience waves of doing well and doing poorly and is grows. Stay with it.

You awareness of reaching too much will serve you well, find your good optimal strike zone for yourself and strive to adjust position and leverage to keep ball coming to strike zone where you set leverage. it will cover many sins.
 
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Your BH will experience waves of doing well and doing poorly and is grows. Stay with it.

You awareness of reaching too much will serve you well, find your good optimal strike zone for yourself and strive to adjust position and leverage to keep ball coming to strike zone where you set leverage. it will cover many sins.
Thank you!
Of course it’s a bit new form to me, and new contract point, so yeah, I find it gives me more power and control but some time for polishing the technique is needed - to make it more stable. Because my muscle memory and timing are still ruled my hand to came back to old habits without my permission lol 🤓
Time and practice needed, time and practice
 
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Hi Community,

I recorded a training session this week and would like to ask for feedback. Sorry in advance for the poor camera angle, but I hope the angle and video quality are decent enough.

Exercises played in the clip are: FH-Middle, BH-Middle, Random All Table

Nowadays, I feel really relaxed on backhand, easy to let my body flow.
Forehand is a different story, it feels stiff, it feels forced, most of the time it feels like my body, underarm and wrist are not in sync.

Therefore, summoning all the TTD-Goats (@Tony's Table Tennis , @Der_Echte , @UpSideDownCarl and all the others) to kindly ask for some pointers and advice on what to work on. I want to add stability nowadays, not power. My FH is often lacking arc and I just dont get a stable feeling even when the ball lands on the table.

Thank you for your help!

 
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grüß Gott @doppelmoral !!!

You should include a dozen + moar TTD members in the same class as you highly regard.

Having said that... in your vid, you are not going for much... and that is a credit to you and your trainer.

I see you are tall with a nice wide stance... that is almost standard and give you good leverage to use ankles to control waist.

What you are showing a real basic practice... not so dynamic drill FH and BH.

I do not see too much in the way of major issues. Trainer is putting ball right where you need it to continuously hit/spin and difficult to know how you respond to random placement... but everything in its place with progression...

You use you body for the light leverage needed in your training scenario.

Also, great credit to you for posting in English, although I speak a good deal of German, when I write in a German speaking forum (think Pimp My Blade in early 2010s), I would NEVER come across so well as expressing myself so correctly as you do in English. (although everyone would fully understand me auf erste Blink)
 
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Personally, for FH, I do not worry about using a LOT of waist or shoulders... I simply point my right toe to the right, get waist down, then as I strike, I am pushing off with right foot/leg and come up, use a short hip, and power into the ball... it is all that is needed at the table and up to a meter away from table.
 
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For that medium speed loop that has better arc that doppelmoral is looking to do better... (High arc means ball speed is not fast to allow that nice higher arc and to allow it to fall) (If you hit hard/fast with high arc, the ball will go out)

Assuming good position/stance/leverage...

Allow ball to come into strike zone a tiny more... keep loose everywhere, close bat angle a little, drop bat a little lower on backswing, swing up a little more, do not do a total hard firming at impact, but make good acceleration, use that timing of arm and wrist snap.

For you, it might be as simple as focusing on being loose and swinging up a little more with a slightly more closed bat.

Many players fail to make the safe high arc shot due to being too tight, it isn't the only reason, but a big one.
 
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Hi Community,

I recorded a training session this week and would like to ask for feedback. Sorry in advance for the poor camera angle, but I hope the angle and video quality are decent enough.

Exercises played in the clip are: FH-Middle, BH-Middle, Random All Table

Nowadays, I feel really relaxed on backhand, easy to let my body flow.
Forehand is a different story, it feels stiff, it feels forced, most of the time it feels like my body, underarm and wrist are not in sync.

Therefore, summoning all the TTD-Goats (@Tony's Table Tennis , @Der_Echte , @UpSideDownCarl and all the others) to kindly ask for some pointers and advice on what to work on. I want to add stability nowadays, not power. My FH is often lacking arc and I just dont get a stable feeling even when the ball lands on the table.

Thank you for your help!

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stability = control
control = adding spin.

So I will suggest you to add double the amount of spin than what you are generating now (which isn't a lot)

once you have more spin, you would have more control and you can actually feel the contact.
so if I was your coach for the next 10 hours, I would work on this.
 
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very good

stability = control
control = adding spin.

So I will suggest you to add double the amount of spin than what you are generating now (which isn't a lot)

once you have more spin, you would have more control and you can actually feel the contact.
so if I was your coach for the next 10 hours, I would work on this.
Thank you @Tony's Table Tennis and @Der_Echte for your help! Adding spin and being more loose sounds like good advice. I will also try to let the ball come more into my striking zone.

@Tony's Table Tennis Judging from the footage, how should I go about adding more spin? I agree my spin is kind of low, but it stems from the issue that adding more spin often leads to me tensing up / forcing the shot.

Again, thank you for your help :)
 
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