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I'm very lucky right now
10 mins walk (7 if the traffic light is green) to Venue A (girl team, USATT range of 1800 to 2200)
10 mins walk + 6 mins MRT + 2 mins walk to Venue B (girl team, range of 1700 to 2100)
10 mins walk + 15 mins MRT + 5 mins walk to Venue C (girl team range of 1900 to 2300, boy team range 2000 to 2400)
10 mins walk + 20 mins MRT + 15 mins walk to Venue D (boy team, range 2200 to 2500)
Okay, add 5 mins to enter the building, elevator up to the TT hall.
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True, but it takes people with passion to invest. So thumbs up to Westchester boss. If only they are millions of them.
Chuang Chih-Yuan's mom (and his coach), sold a property a year to fund Chuang to train.
Later when Chuang was a super star, the mom continued to sell the remaining property to build their own training center. This is in Taiwan's third biggest city.
recent few years, Foxconn founder Jerry Kuo aided in the operational costs by funding 1million USD over 6 years (this has since expired, and rumors has it that the funding has continued)
Today, that center has produced recent Taiwan ranked number 3 to take part in Durban WTTCF
Chuang is likely the most successful 40 year old player ever, in the world as player and player/coach and has his very own training center (named after him too)
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most of those players train elsewhere and just come to westchester to play the tournament as they have a big cash prize, for example jishan liang who often plays flies in from NC. and many players dont train regulary at WTTC, they train at somewhere like LYTTC and come to WTTC to play the monthly tournmant, not many players actually train at that club
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Ok, this makes even more sense. Why didnt somebody just say that from the first place. Instead of the Singapore can make a first rate basketball team logic.
But why does westchester have so much prize money to offer?
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they usually have something like 200 players. Assuming each one plays one event costing 30$, thats already 6000$, and many play 2 or more events. and according to the website, they have around 300 members and around 50 players daily. 300 memberships is another 6.5k monthly revenue. 10$ to play for the day at the club is another 500$. also, it probably isnt a concern to make a profit every month for him, he is a well known puzzle master and sold millions of copies of his soduku book
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Try this since the thread is probably too difficult to read.
How Will Shortz Turned Pleasantville into a Table Tennis Mecca
On February 19 Will Shortz, a Pleasantville resident and The New York Times puzzle editor, saw his Wordle streak come to an end. Shortz knew the word began with S and ended with “ILL” – but instead of choosing a word that contained multiple potential second letters he guessed through the...
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Many players do play there on a weekly basis, including some of the ones you see in the video. Why is this so hard to believe?
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Got it, now I'm starting to understand the story a little more.Try this since the thread is probably too difficult to read.
How Will Shortz Turned Pleasantville into a Table Tennis Mecca
On February 19 Will Shortz, a Pleasantville resident and The New York Times puzzle editor, saw his Wordle streak come to an end. Shortz knew the word began with S and ended with “ILL” – but instead of choosing a word that contained multiple potential second letters he guessed through the...
Well I believe there the greater NYC area can have many good players.
But I find it hard to believe that the quality of players from the video could be from the 8000 population of Pleasantville.
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Of course it's not, you think everyone that goes to a club lives in the city the club is located in...? It's a close NYC suburb, is NYC a small town?
You think everyone who goes to LATTA lives in EL Monte and noone comes from LA and cities in a 1 hour radius? I've yet to meet one person at LATTA who actually lives in EL Monte...
I wouldn't call it a "close suburb". Traveling there from NYC is a journey, one that's probably prohibitive for most would be regulars. I wouldn't be surprised that the vast majority of the members are from nearby suburbs rather than NYC (not including Yonkers).
The reason I stopped playing TT for so many years was because I moved to NYC. Juggling a full time job (well, I had to work up to 80 hours a week, so more than full time) and the commute to clubs is just not feasible depending on where you live.
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I'm not saying it's super accessible to all of NYC, but at least some of NYC, that's still a LOT of people, no?
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in Japan, from junior high school (12+ yo kids) they have sports club for before and after classes. TT is very popular and all those clubs usually have good coaches.
There are many other options as well for the richer as well as the poorer - and for the younger kids. Many TT schools, where you kids can take private lessons and/or group lessons with coaches. a typical monthly fee is around 150$. in public clubs it can be much cheaper, albeit the coach quality would be less.
for adults, if you don't need a coach but just to play for your (team) buddies, unfortunately there aren't "clubs" like in Europe. there aren't even amateur club championship league competitions like there where you'd play weekly or 20-30 times a year. so you sometimes have to a be a nomad. You can play occasionally in a TT school if they have a free table (book online), or go to a public venue, but it can be crowded on WE or evenings. - or not available always, booked for other sports, or booked by groups etc..
in a TT school in central Tokyo, you'll book a table for 1000 yens (7.$) an hour per person, in the old "workers welfare hall" it may cost only 2$. In the public venue i play usually its 500 yens giving you access to everything the whole day (there's a gym, swimming pool etc...). its funded by my taxes so im trying to enjoy it as much as i can.
There are many other options as well for the richer as well as the poorer - and for the younger kids. Many TT schools, where you kids can take private lessons and/or group lessons with coaches. a typical monthly fee is around 150$. in public clubs it can be much cheaper, albeit the coach quality would be less.
for adults, if you don't need a coach but just to play for your (team) buddies, unfortunately there aren't "clubs" like in Europe. there aren't even amateur club championship league competitions like there where you'd play weekly or 20-30 times a year. so you sometimes have to a be a nomad. You can play occasionally in a TT school if they have a free table (book online), or go to a public venue, but it can be crowded on WE or evenings. - or not available always, booked for other sports, or booked by groups etc..
in a TT school in central Tokyo, you'll book a table for 1000 yens (7.$) an hour per person, in the old "workers welfare hall" it may cost only 2$. In the public venue i play usually its 500 yens giving you access to everything the whole day (there's a gym, swimming pool etc...). its funded by my taxes so im trying to enjoy it as much as i can.
Single world champion with Gatien, mixed double world champion Secrétin + Bergeret, runner-up team world championship, multiple european champions (single, double, team), it's the third european nation, and now the 3rd world youth nation.
if you take a look at all sports combined in the Olympics, France is ranked 4th winter+summer olympics combined. What have you got ranked at 1,2,3 ? : USA, USSR+Russia, UK. Shall we talk about history and the superiority of the Eastern Bloc, like East Germany, Romania or Hungary at that time ?
Also, problem is: the US and the UK invest only in a few sports, mostly single ones like track and field, cycling for UK and swimming, and those are college sports to start with in the US. The countries using a socialist system have a wider range of sports bringing them medals. Uk in Volley-Ball ? naaa, in Hand-Ball? naaa, in Table Tennis ? Bronze team medalist 2 times, the Commonwealth games being ... nothing (Team World Cup and WTTTC). Their last victory in single was in... 1951 hahaha, was it the same as the modern era TT since the introduction of speed/tyre glues in the late 70's ?
Come on... be serious a minute...
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seriously 14 bucks for 2 hours per person is like having a booze with friends at the pub, this is how it should be for amateur players, so only 2 bucks is cheap ! 3.5 bucks a whole day for a complete gym offer ? wow !!! yeah but we all know japanese people really take charge of their health, from what we see in Europe it seems to be what matters first to them https://www.pharmaceutical-technology.com/comment/low-obesity-japan/
Timo Boll and Vladimir Samsonov will certainly love that fake news... By the way where does CCY plays now ? Hennebont, France. Socialist system.
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LA is an animal of its own.
My metro area city of Sacramento has ZERO real TT club after the narcissistic totalitarian county unelected government official harassed the TT club owner demanding he operate at 10% capacity and hire a bunch of un-needed people... all the while he was already losing $20,000 a month minimum but under this he had to absorb $50,000 a month loss. He was willing to lose $20,000 a month and stay open, he could afford that...
but when a haughty un-elected government dude dictated the owner operate at such a loss, he would not tolerate it and closed the TT club for good. Real ironic as he was reported to have been pretty high up in the motherland commie hierarchy, and here in USA he got done in by another commie.
Since then, no one has been willing to open a club and absorb a constant loss.
A couple people setup their garage or a workplace they own with a single table, but can only accommodate a friend or three, not a real operation. The Russian Church here still sets up 4 tables, but that is for a few hrs 1-2 times a week, which is typical of a USA "Club".
There was talk about a somewhat rich individual organizing a dozen TT players to share the expense of a barebones 3-4 table 2,000 sq ft facility in a run down area with no air conditioning (in 50C temps) which would come out to 200 USD perp person which people MIGHT have done in 2021 when they wanted TT action and there wasn't any... the idea was everyone has a key and can play among selves... but idea never got past planning stage.
This is a reality.
My metro area city of Sacramento has ZERO real TT club after the narcissistic totalitarian county unelected government official harassed the TT club owner demanding he operate at 10% capacity and hire a bunch of un-needed people... all the while he was already losing $20,000 a month minimum but under this he had to absorb $50,000 a month loss. He was willing to lose $20,000 a month and stay open, he could afford that...
but when a haughty un-elected government dude dictated the owner operate at such a loss, he would not tolerate it and closed the TT club for good. Real ironic as he was reported to have been pretty high up in the motherland commie hierarchy, and here in USA he got done in by another commie.
Since then, no one has been willing to open a club and absorb a constant loss.
A couple people setup their garage or a workplace they own with a single table, but can only accommodate a friend or three, not a real operation. The Russian Church here still sets up 4 tables, but that is for a few hrs 1-2 times a week, which is typical of a USA "Club".
There was talk about a somewhat rich individual organizing a dozen TT players to share the expense of a barebones 3-4 table 2,000 sq ft facility in a run down area with no air conditioning (in 50C temps) which would come out to 200 USD perp person which people MIGHT have done in 2021 when they wanted TT action and there wasn't any... the idea was everyone has a key and can play among selves... but idea never got past planning stage.
This is a reality.
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I didn't know Boll and Samsonov are player + coach + own they own playing centre too.
Please do share, who does Boll and Samsonov Coach?
I know Boll is still playing. Where does Samsonov Play?
and where is Timo Boll's own training centre? Where is Samsonov one?
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1. He coach over a dozen juniors. The most recent success story is a kid named Kuo.
Here is his WTT profile: https://worldtabletennis.com/playerDescription?playerId=132824
His "coach" role is so old news really. Near 10 years now.
This is WTT's recent photo
2. Where does he play?
well, a lot of places.
There is 52 weeks in a year. He is 60% of the time here:
Yes, this is also his own table tennis center (Chih Yuan ping pong center)
And what else do he do in Dec, Nov, Oct?
Oh, he is back at home, doing commercials/shoots, running around his home (he does that everyday, including when it rains too), having nearby school kids coming to visit his CY ping pong center).
He recently went back to Hennebont. (to play how many matches? I can count with my hands, thats how short the stay was)
But your logic is so wrong.
Are you saying Chuang is a product of Socialist system? or he lives in a socialist system for 52 weeks in a year?
Which ever angle you look at it, it is just so wrong and so fake news haha.
Its easy to call fake news.
To defend your fake news, like Boll is a coach, or Samsonov has a TT center, is to really, provide evidence.
Your turn, please tell me which 40 year old today is still a player, a coach and has his/her tt center.
You named Boll, and Samsonov. PLEASE provide facts or stop with your socialist fake news
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You talk so much of the past or things not part of TT, so I didn't bother read further than 3rd world youth nation.
So, stay valid please.
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So all the national team juniors in France, train for free under this socialist system right?
All the coaches get paid from the system and not from player's right?
The club / team is funded by the gov. The players earnings is from the gov, and the staff is paid by the gov?
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