WTT Finals Fukuoka 2024, 11/20-24

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WTT Finals Fukuoka 2024 WS QF
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Some people have a hard time understanding that politeness is different from culture to culture.

Just because you think something is polite, because thats how you grew up, might not be somewhere else. And if that makes you say that a culture is "stupid" or "not as refined" then it says more about you than that said culture.

Otherwise I am also a new fan of the chopper sisters. They have a great style to watch. Wish we would get a good MS chopper in the top 10 again.
 
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Tasei: Job security still comes down to Harimoto.
 
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A Tieba user is introduced to the concept of 代拍/proxy photographers and 站姐/female fansite admins.

乒乓球商业化是这样的? (So this is the commercialization of table tennis?)
https://tieba.baidu.com/p/9281184346
平淡是真真真 刷到震碎我三观.. 跟老哥们分享下,福冈训练场的门票和赛场门票分开出售,训练场大概1600人民币/2小时,也有说1600/天。这些人在官方平台买票后,进来拿手机相机拍摄,剪辑后发到社交平台给粉丝看。不说全部,但是绝大多数都是奔着双世一去的。
我看了这么多摄像头都要窒息了,运动员还要在前面训练。wtt赚这个钱,真的不心虚吗?视频放在我主页,感兴趣可以看一下。
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My worldview was shocked after watching this. I want to share something with you guys here. The tickets for the Fukuoka training hall and the main hall are sold separately. The training hall is about 1600 RMB/2 hours, or as some say 1600/day. These people bought tickets on the official platform, came in with their mobile phones and cameras to take pictures, edited and posted them on social platforms for fans to see. Not all of them, but most of them are going for the double WR1.
It is suffocating after seeing so many cameras, and the athletes have to train in front of them. WTT feels no qualms making this money? The video is on my homepage, you can watch it if you are interested [TL's note: see link below].

福冈总决赛训练场 (Training hall at Fukuoka Finals)
https://tieba.baidu.com/p/9281143248
 
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Since WCQ's opponent at semi is Darko, I'll give him better chance to reach the final than his compatriot LSD who still may go through Harimoto.
Nevertheless, the all familiar all Chinese final is likely to happen. Only the local country hero Harimoto with the local fans support may have something to say.
Third lefty in a row for Darko.
 
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Hiring me just to be a mascot? No way!

5ch users happened to have a little debate over that last week after Hirano's revelations of the WT F lineup at ATTC 2024.

https://itest.5ch.net/mao/test/read.cgi/pingpong/1731169680/l-
0252 名無しQ(・∀・)ノ゜サァン!! 2024/11/13(水) 10:04:08.41
代表監督もだが、個々の選手のコーチもなんだかな

早田 後任は?
張本 お父さん
大藤 ゲーム間、タイムアウトの時、1分間フルに使ってまくしたてるおっさん
伊藤 お母さん
平野 鼻紙回収係
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Not only the national team coaches, but also the coaches of individual players are strange.

Hayata: Her next coach is?
Harimoto: Dad
Oto: The old man who talks nonstop for a full minute during timeouts in a game
Ito: Mom
Hirano: The tissue collector

0253 名無しQ(・∀・)ノ゜サァン!! 2024/11/13(水) 10:09:10.61
平野のコーチは辞めたのかな
早田のように公にしてないけど8月末までの契約だったのか
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Has Hirano's coach quit?
Even though she didn't announce it like Hayata, was the contract until the end of August?

0257 名無しQ(・∀・)ノ゜サァン!! 2024/11/13(水) 10:24:49.01
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なんとしても日本のコーチ陣に難癖をつけたくて今のトップ選手のコーチの文句を書いてるようだが大藤に関しては無理ないか?
他はまぁ分からんでもないが大藤のコーチの坂本に関しては優秀だぞ
それを無理やり、まくしたてるおっさんとかいう理由で難癖つけるのは他の説得力が無くなるからやめておけ
認めるところは認めないと。
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It seems like you're trying to find fault with the Japanese coaching staff no matter what, and are writing complaints about the current top players' coaches, but isn't that too much to ask of Odo?
I can understand the others, but Odo's coach, Sakamoto, is excellent
Don't try to find fault with him just because he's an old man who keeps talking nonsense, as it will make the rest of it less persuasive
You have to give credit where credit is due.

0258 名無しQ(・∀・)ノ゜サァン!! 2024/11/13(水) 10:27:12.68
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お前も結果だしてる渡辺監督批判してるやん
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You're also criticizing coach Watanabe who's getting results

0260 名無しQ(・∀・)ノ゜サァン!! 2024/11/13(水) 10:31:36.27
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おっすおっすw

まぁ、結果といえばその通りだな。
結果は出してるな。
ただ、結果は出したが渡辺監督が監督として活躍したムーブが見つからないんだよな
監督の役割としては主にオーダー決めとコーチングが大きいと思うがその二つとも選手任せだったとなるとどうしても渡辺監督の活躍が見当たらないんだよな
逆にもしなんか知ってれば教えてくれ
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Right, right lol

Well, that's true when it comes to results.
He's produced results.
However, even though he's produced results, I can't find any moves that would have made coach Watanabe successful as a coach
I think the main role of a coach is deciding the order and coaching, but if those two things are left up to the players, I can't see coach Watanabe doing a good job
On the other hand, if you know anything, please let me know


0263 名無しQ(・∀・)ノ゜サァン!! 2024/11/13(水) 10:50:26.43
コーチングのの優秀さが感じられたのは 大藤に対しての坂モッチャン&ミマに対しての松ッサン
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The excellent coaching was felt when Sakamo-chan coached Odo and Matsu-san coached Mima

0264 名無しQ(・∀・)ノ゜サァン!! 2024/11/13(水) 10:52:59.00
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外部からは結果しかわからんでしょ
渡辺監督になって結果はでてる
偶然にせよ結果だせば名将でいい
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From the outside, all you can see is the results
Watanabe has been the manager and the results are coming
Even if it's a coincidence, if he gets results, he's a great coach

0267 名無しQ(・∀・)ノ゜サァン!! 2024/11/13(水) 11:06:20.57
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結果を出したとは言わんよ
メンバーが全然違うんだし
前任者は早田張本平野で結果出せなかったわけではない
むしろ石川という最弱カード1枚入れて戦わないといけない罰ゲームをずっと戦ってきた
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I wouldn't say he's gotten results
The members were completely different
It's not like the predecessors didn't get results with Hayata, Harimoto, and Hirano
Rather, they've been fighting a penalty game where they had to fight with the weakest card, Ishikawa


0269 名無しQ(・∀・)ノ゜サァン!! 2024/11/13(水) 11:36:17.36
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石川がいた時の団体戦って遠い昔のような気がする
そういえば東京五輪のとき怪我もしてなかったのにダブルスのみだったね
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The team competition when Ishikawa was there seems like a long time ago
Come to think of it, she only participated in doubles at the Tokyo Olympics even though she wasn't injured
 
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Hayata: R16
Harimoto: QF
Odo: QF
Ito: R16
Hirano: QF

Odo/Yokoi: F
Nagasaki/Kihara: SF
Sato/Hashimoto: F

Below is what a 5ch user predicted last week.

https://itest.5ch.net/mao/test/read.cgi/pingpong/1731169680/l-
0285 名無しQ(・∀・)ノ゜サァン!! 2024/11/13(水) 16:44:47.50
ファイナルズ予想
早田 笑顔で「右手を」振りながら登場し、四方八方にごめんなさいのポーズをしながら退場
張本 4強
大藤 8強
伊藤
平野

ダブルスは大横4強、長木8強 佐藤橋本ってなかなかランク落ちないな
それはシングルス伊藤、平野にも言える 伊藤は最近の大会でもポイントをしっかり稼いでいてさすがだ
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Predictions for Finals
Hayata: Appear with a smile and wave her "right hand", and leave while making an apologetic pose in all directions
Harimoto: SF
Odo: QF
Ito
Hirano

For doubles, O/Yoko SF, Naga/Ki QF. Sato/Hashimoto won't drop in ranking whatever
For singles, the same can be said for Ito and Hirano. Ito has been earning points steadily in recent tournaments as expected
 
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Hayata: R16
Harimoto: QF
Odo: QF
Ito: R16
Hirano: QF

Odo/Yokoi: F
Nagasaki/Kihara: SF
Sato/Hashimoto: F

Below is what a 5ch user predicted last week.

https://itest.5ch.net/mao/test/read.cgi/pingpong/1731169680/l-
0285 名無しQ(・∀・)ノ゜サァン!! 2024/11/13(水) 16:44:47.50
ファイナルズ予想
早田 笑顔で「右手を」振りながら登場し、四方八方にごめんなさいのポーズをしながら退場
張本 4強
大藤 8強
伊藤
平野

ダブルスは大横4強、長木8強 佐藤橋本ってなかなかランク落ちないな
それはシングルス伊藤、平野にも言える 伊藤は最近の大会でもポイントをしっかり稼いでいてさすがだ
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Predictions for Finals
Hayata: Appear with a smile and wave her "right hand", and leave while making an apologetic pose in all directions
Harimoto: SF
Odo: QF
Ito
Hirano

For doubles, O/Yoko SF, Naga/Ki QF. Sato/Hashimoto won't drop in ranking whatever
For singles, the same can be said for Ito and Hirano. Ito has been earning points steadily in recent tournaments as expected
What is interesting about your predictions is that they required Szocs to beat both Hayata and Odo. The funny thing is that people probably thought Hayata's loss to Szocs was a sign of injury but maybe Szocs beating Odo like a drum might drive a slight revision.
 
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What is interesting about your predictions is that they required Szocs to beat both Hayata and Odo. The funny thing is that people probably thought Hayata's loss to Szocs was a sign of injury but maybe Szocs beating Odo like a drum might drive a slight revision.
Given Szocs came close to beating Hayata at WTT CS Frankfurt 2023 and Ito at WTTC 2024 (she lost to Hirano 0-3 at WTT CT Zagreb 2024 but all were in deuce), so despite her failure to overcome Polcanova at Paris 2024 and ETTC 2024 as well as 5 first-round exits out of 5 GS, she is doing justice to her gold medal at European Games 2023 and stats against CNT players.

Hayata's loss here also highlights again the need to stop playing with brute force, which she noted in an interview with NTV after saying she wanted to become even more aggressive in 10/2024.
 
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harimoto on fire vs jang woojin right now
I wonder if Tomo changed his FH rubber because he finally starts to hit the table again instead of hitting the air . It is good to see though , I started to feel sorry for him but now he looks solid again.
 
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Given Szocs came close to beating Hayata at WTT CS Frankfurt 2023 and Ito at WTTC 2024 (she lost to Hirano 0-3 at WTT CT Zagreb 2024 but all were in deuce), so despite her failure to overcome Polcanova at Paris 2024 and ETTC 2024 as well as 5 first-round exits out of 5 GS, she is doing justice to her gold medal at European Games 2023 and stats against CNT players.

Hayata's loss here also highlights again the need to stop playing with brute force, which she noted in an interview with NTV after saying she wanted to become even more aggressive in 10/2024.

sorry, but did you even see that game? Hayata was obviously not ready to play with her injury yet. She just played because she is the hometown hero. You might be right that she needs to be a bit more flexible, but judging from this game is nonsense
 
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