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And you were chewing popcorn idly on the sidelines as I tried to get Tony's Table Tennis to see this perspective?
Heh heh. I'm keeping the money.
And you were chewing popcorn idly on the sidelines as I tried to get Tony's Table Tennis to see this perspective?
I might have missed that thread. Although sometimes popcorn is super tasty too...
Bah, don't worry about not knowing anyone, NextLevel, it's not important. Believe in yourself instead.Lisening to the podcast so far, I could be ITTF president... I know as much as he does - I just don''t know the people.
Bah, don't worry about not knowing anyone, NextLevel, it's not important. Believe in yourself instead.
The levels of self-aggrandisement and arrogance displayed in your post suggests that you will rise effortlessly to the very top of any association.
Lisening to the podcast so far, I could be ITTF president... I know as much as he does - I just don''t know the people.
I think I've got even better word: VIRTUALLY!LOL - you can't say "literally bans". Figuratively bans maybe. XX, FZD, LSW didn't get either of the singles places on offer, and that's that. There isn't a ban. Even if there were 3 singles places on offer, one of the big chinese 4 men would have missed out.
No, but the Olympics is to blame for trying to solve a "problem" the wrong way. Btw I used quotation marks because I don't perceive the Chinese dominance as a problem at all. I mean, I'm honestly missing the reasons why you, me, bzing, violoniste18, IOC or anybody alse should give a FF about player's NA or continent or planet they're from or any of that BS.The Olympics isn't to blame for the domination of our sport by one country.
I agree, but that shouldn't change with 4-5 additional top players. And, also, don't you think that the best way of promoting sport is by promoting quality no matter the nation/race/borders? Don't you think that LSW deserves to participate at the Olympic singles because of her (and I'll qoute you on this) "fair play and effort"? IOC = guilty.About "best v best" - this isn't what the modern Olympic movement is all about. I understand your point, and I'm sure there are wider arguments to be made about what the Olympics stands for, but it hasn't been just about raw performance for some time now. We have our own "internal" tournaments and competitions for that, which is why (for me) the WTTC carries more weight in terms of individual sporting achievement than Olympic Gold. The Olympics tries to achieve other things like increase sporting participation across international boundaries, promote fair play and effort, reduce discriminatory factors preventing participation. In a pure best v best scenario these more political factors aren't that important, but the Olympic Movement tries to fold them into the overall picture.
I remember Eric the Eel, and I agree with you - his performance was inspiring. Still, imagine that Eric was chosen to compete but Pieter van den Hoogenband, Alexander Popov or Gary Hall, Jr. were (figuratively) banned because of some quota. That would suck.I know it won't excite the purists, but I like the Olympics in part for the special stories it can generate. Eddie the Eagle Edwards, the Jamaican Bobsleigh team, Eric the Eel. Stories of individual triumph against the odds by underdogs can inspire in a different way, just as the peak performance of the elite can in others.
Exactly, throwing a bone, I couldn't put it better myself. And that's not fair neither to us (non-Chinese) nor Chinese. I feel really shitty about that. I'd rather loose a match against a much better opponent and be happy and thankful for the opportunity than win the consolation prize at second-rate tournament (which bronze at the Olympics, in a very literal way, is).I was in favor of the reduction from 3 Olympic singles spots to 2, and I still am. Sure, it feels like you're throwing a bone to the rest of the world by offering a bronze medal up, and in sporting terms that's exactly what's going on.
Like I said before, I can't see any problem there.But this prevents the inevitable lock-in of all the medals by one country
What better inspiration and honor than playing against the master? This is what William Henzell wrote about his 3 proudest moments: "3rd [proudest moment] was the 2008 Beijing Olympics and my match against 3-time World Champ Wang Liqin. As I won the first set and raced to a big lead in the second set, I remember the eerie silence that came over the venue. The Chinese players are like demi gods and there was disbelief about what was happening. We'll forget what happened next but it was still fun."and at least offers some inspiration to other nations and participants, which hopefully serves to inspire grass roots uptake too.
If it were "not solely", I could accept that. But "not at all" seems like more adequate description to me.Because these are things which the Olympic Movement cares about, not solely who the absolute best athletes are.
I see that you took offense at my post so I'll try explain what I meant. Also, as I'm sure you know, I like most of your posts and I think you know I'm not a troublemaker, so here's how I see it:I think it is better to ask questions about what you don't understand or explain why you are acting like Weikert is your daddy. What did he say in the podcast that impressed you?
1. Hey, chill, man.
Dude, what is wrong with you?
You do sound a bit as if you've been missing out on your meds and that jealousy has got the better of you.
FYI: Thomas Weikert used to play Bundesliga and still plays pretty decent. His TTR is still translated about 2300 USATT. So he definitely knows what it takes for modern TT.
You're sure you know as much as him?
Well you don't seem to know the meaning of the word humbleness.
What makes you think you're the shit and he's not?
Could it be that your expectations in the podcast may have been placed a little too high?
...Sometimes.... *Smh*
I see that you took offense at my post so I'll try explain what I meant. Also, as I'm sure you know, I like most of your posts and I think you know I'm not a troublemaker, so here's how I see it:
In the current discussion climate here and on other forums it's pretty universal to accuse the people in charge of our sport of thinking they know better than anyone else and that they have a severe lack of understanding of how things really work.
So I'm not laughing at you, but the irony of your post did give me a good chuckle as it showed me that you and they aren't that different at all, however unintentional that was on your part.
Did I mean to offend you?
No, the smileys at the end should have given a hint about that.
About your post, I honestly do not understand. What's the link to mine?