Daily Table Tennis Chit Chat

[Shuki]

Carl, you still haven't caught onto the fact that sometimes I exaggerate my bullshit to provoke a response.

If I would have talked about the time when I got more confident in my backhand opener, it'd have nothing to do with the subject and nothing to do with why the player I referred to earlier doesn't attack those pushes.

However I do think that if he just practiced it, he would eventually learn it. At the same time, I might be wrong, because I understand that you can't just pull out "drill techniques" and expect them to work in a real situation. It might take longer than I think to see any improvement.

I don't think it's exaggeration as much as you just having never experienced what heavy is and not understanding it. It's not your fault that you can't understand something that you've never felt. It's like describing a severe pain to someone who's worst pain in their life was breaking a finger. They can imagine what it's like but they'll never understand until they've actually felt it.

 

[NextLevel]

I don't think it's exaggeration as much as you just having never experienced what heavy is and not understanding it. It's not your fault that you can't understand something that you've never felt. It's like describing a severe pain to someone who's worst pain in their life was breaking a finger. They can imagine what it's like but they'll never understand until they've actually felt it.

I like to say that my backspin serve turns people into believers. Sometimes until people face my serve, they never knew that kind of backspin existed.

 

[Archosaurus]

@NextLevel

Ever since I saw people netting your serve, with that short movement of yours, I've wanted to have a go at pushing it myself.

Somehow I'm sure it'd net even if I chopped into it.

 

[Jirrex]

For those who are interested, here are some pictures of the finished 'Clicky Press' that I made a short time ago:




Here's one with the racket in it:

 

[NextLevel]

@NextLevel

Ever since I saw people netting your serve, with that short movement of yours, I've wanted to have a go at pushing it myself.

Somehow I'm sure it'd net even if I chopped into it.

Some people don't even net my serve, THe ball just goes into the table as if they batted it down really hard.

 

[Archosaurus]

@NextLevel

That happens to me as well to an extent when people try to "block" the ball over the net too late, but it's more of a fall than it being propelled.

Does it really launch the ball INTO the table with some speed? That sure sounds like something.

 

[OldschoolPenholder]

For those who are interested, here are some pictures of the finished 'Clicky Press' that I made a short time ago:

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Here's one with the racket in it:

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wow! nice work!

 

[NextLevel]

@NextLevel

That happens to me as well to an extent when people try to "block" the ball over the net too late, but it's more of a fall than it being propelled.

Does it really launch the ball INTO the table with some speed? That sure sounds like something.

Yes. They think it is no spin or light backspin and they come in with some cool angle or don't try to stroke the ball so the spin just does the rest - acts like gravity. Sometimes, they are even trying to loop the ball when this happens. I was playing someone recently at the last tournament where I unfortunately didn't have my camera and he said in frustration to himself "You can't approach that serve like that!!!! You can't take the ball that late!"

OK, my ex-coach calls serving cheap tricks that will not get you far but I guess I like cheap tricks. I work too hard with my arthritis already.

 

[Archosaurus]

Serving? Cheap tricks?

I can kind of understand his point from a learning perspective, but isn't the entire offense vs offense game based around serve, receive and 3rd ball/denying 3rd ball?

 

[Jirrex]

wow! nice work!

Thanks

 

[NextLevel]

Serving? Cheap tricks?

I can kind of understand his point from a learning perspective, but isn't the entire offense vs offense game based around serve, receive and 3rd ball/denying 3rd ball?

Yes, but he thinks serving tricks only work until easily defused and can also build a laziness into one's game that makes one play less well when the serves are returned well. He finds the struggle of the rally more noble and points out that unfamiliarity will win you some free points on serve regardless. I mean, there is a merit to this, but there are other viewpoints.

 

[UpSideDownCarl]

Carl, you still haven't caught onto the fact that sometimes I exaggerate my bullshit to provoke a response.

If you missed it, this gives a pretty good explanation of what made me laugh.

You are the same idiot you always were. Today it just made me laugh.



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[OldschoolPenholder]

Ages ago in Tennis, Ivan Lendl used to be a monster, and following him, Pete Sampras. They both had killer serves travelling 120 mph+ or whatever they got clocked at. They would often ace their opponents. Watching them play inspired me to work on my serves a bit for TT. If the goal of the game is to win, and to win you need to reach 11 (well 21 pts back in my day) pts first, why wouldn't anyone not work on their serves? The human body only has so much energy, why prolong the match (especially if you play a tournament) when you can, borrowing a phrase/maxim from the Martial Arts, use 'maximum efficiency with minimum effort' (seiryoku zenyo ???? in Judo)?

But what NL's ex-coach said is true for me ... i neglected other aspects of my game. My game was built around the serve and when I came back to TT after the 30+ yrs layoff, I played some partners who returned my "killer serves" and I was lost after that LOL

 

[OldschoolPenholder]

Ages ago in Tennis, Ivan Lendl used to be a monster, and following him, Pete Sampras. They both had killer serves travelling 120 mph+ or whatever they got clocked at. They would often ace their opponents. Watching them play inspired me to work on my serves a bit for TT. If the goal of the game is to win, and to win you need to reach 11 (well 21 pts back in my day) pts first, why wouldn't anyone not work on their serves? The human body only has so much energy, why prolong the match (especially if you play a tournament) when you can, borrowing a phrase/maxim from the Martial Arts, use 'maximum efficiency with minimum effort' (seiryoku zenyo ???? in Judo)?

But what NL's ex-coach said is true for me ... i neglected other aspects of my game. My game was built around the serve and when I came back to TT after the 30+ yrs layoff, I played some partners who returned my "killer serves" and I was lost after that LOL

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Also, adding a great quote:



"Before the rally, the Gods have placed the serve and the receive."
~NextLevel

 

[Shuki]

I think a good example of this ===== a lot of you may have used a high quality robot that serves an absurd amount of backspin, then you tell yourself, "well this isn't even realistic since people can't make this kind of backspin" and then it happens. you feel it in a game years later and you realize your robot was just trying to prepare you.

 

[Der_Echte]

2 highlights of Der_Echte one should look for in the video posted above:

4:37-4:48 - Der smacks the table and flexes his bicep after my smash
6:20-6:25 - Der waves bye bye after NL smoked a supersonic loop past me

LOL at Der - table tennis is truly an entertainment sport when Der is around.

Years ago on mytt, I posted a video where I played against the president of the city tt association... I smashed one and did the bicep flex and kiss.

I got numerous negative comments, but no one was there seeing what he did and no one on that forum knew I cheer 5x more often for players like that when I am not playing.

Hehe, let them think whatever.

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[TareqPhoto]

I think a good example of this ===== a lot of you may have used a high quality robot that serves an absurd amount of backspin, then you tell yourself, "well this isn't even realistic since people can't make this kind of backspin" and then it happens. you feel it in a game years later and you realize your robot was just trying to prepare you.

I hope that the robot i ordered and waiting for can do that backspin for me, can't wait to give it a try and practice.

 

[Der_Echte]

Pic of SHW... in Sweden maintaining her bat...

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[TareqPhoto]

Today i went to the academy and played against few of high level players, i lost to all games, but somehow i felt like i played much better than those games against lower level and winning over them, i thought i will lose very bad like 11-0 or 11-2, but to my surprise i only lost one game badly with 11-4 but the rest i lost in such 11-9, 11-8, 12-10, 14-12,...etc, and in some i was in lead or reached 10 first, but somehow i lost easy point at the end.

I focused more in practicing at home and didn't play games against other since 2 weeks ago, so i will try to go out and play more, today games showed me if i really give it more try and practice more i may improve significantly, after all those high level strong players are playing there almost everyday, and sounds that i tried not give them easy points, but i miss mine so that they won, and good that i returned back to my offensive style after long long time in doing defensive one to learn, but as you said, attacking is the way to go further.

 

[Der_Echte]

Achieved all time high club 2054 rating using Karis M+ in just one week. Will I achieve a similar USATT rating in next week's NA Team's Tourney?

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