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Favorite shot. Easy. Any time someone gives me the opportunity to go around the net. Hooking the ball around the net is so fun. If I can take it from low enough that it skids, even better.
Today I had the perfect around the net moment.

The ball was slow and out wide to my forehand, it was dropping low and I'd been practicing the shot for the past week.

I lined it up with my footwork, swung into the ball with a lot of hook and a big whippy stroke...




...and hit it right on the side of my blade and sent the ball flying straight at the back wall.

Doh!
 
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What is everyone's favorite shot to perform in table tennis?

Not your point winner, not your most effective shot: your favorite shot.

It'd have to be lobbing and blocking against opponents who hit very hard. Perhaps with an edge to lobbing.

Whenever I get to play in a space with a high roof, I lob as high as I can. I even lob in my normal venue, with the relatively low ceiling.

There's just something about it that's so fun.
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@JeffM : I finally got time to look at your video. I did look at OSPH's detailed breakdown . So this is what my impression was from watching it :

1. Footwork : I have told you earlier about this and whenever I see you play, I keep thinking the same thing , that you don't do the small reset hop with your feet after your strokes / serve and you are caught flatfooted. Essentially you are pushing / blocking balls because you are out of position and after pushing once you are realizing you should have looped it , then you try to loop the next ball and by then your opponent is pushing it back to your body which makes it even more difficult for you to loop. You should definitely practice third ball attacks on both wings ...

2. the other thing I saw is that your looping primarily with your shoulder and the stroke is going very up instead of forward , when you are playing close to the table I don't think you should need that big a swing . In fact most of the points where you got a topspin serve and you were able to do a shorter swing you won the point outright, should you not be trying to do something similar with long third balls ? If you encounter such situations consistently on your serve , may be you are better off serving differently to setup the next ball easier for you to attack, change the spin/placement of the serve ...

3. I think you should make a decision about whether you want to play regular penhold / RPB. If you play RPB, I think you would be better off blocking with your RPB instead of doing the traditional block and then going for RPB when you want to attack . Just because it looks like you are caught napping on your backhand most of the time and you are pushing balls yous should be attacking , if the options are less you should get more time to execute them.

4. If you have to block / push as OSPH says atleast try to add some variation onto it so that your opponent has to think instead of just pushing it to your body.

Again , I am not a penholder and no way I am a coach , but this is what I felt and you might want to think about these things and may be add some conditioning / weight training for your legs and core ....the other thing that I have learnt is that adaptability is the key in playing people but it does not mean that if your loop is not working you should switch to block / push right away, you should try to adapt your loop , by looping with softer hands or may be focus on your positioning or any other adjustment that works for you in practice , and you don't have to get an outright winner with the first loop, you can do a shorter stroke and set up the next shot as the loop kill, of just keep attacking their weak side till they miss ...
 
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I've been doing some drills today with my coach.

First video topspin (half table) vs block

second video random vs block

i've improved quite a bit but there is still a lot of work to do. I see my upper body is way too upright. I wish my coach reminded me so i could work more on it.

I really can't understand how you generate spin without any backswing :O But it seems to work.

Isn't that a very cramped feeling to loop like this?
 
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Thought it might be interesting to post this video of my brother and I playing in a local junior final back in 2010 when we were 14. Enjoy :)

Are you the one in blue shirt and black shorts? :) LOL. That must have driven people crazy trying to tell you two apart when you are twins and wearing pretty much the same gear.

You guys both played really well back then. Good stuff.
 
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I really can't understand how you generate spin without any backswing :O But it seems to work.

Isn't that a very cramped feeling to loop like this?

There is a lot of core work in that stroke. Look carefully and you will see it. The wrist is probably also looser than you are giving it credit for and there is some forearm motion that is hard to see as well.
 
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Agree with you NL , but I felt that the drill was a tad too fast for comfort ...
There is a lot of core work in that stroke. Look carefully and you will see it. The wrist is probably also looser than you are giving it credit for and there is some forearm motion that is hard to see as well.
 
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Agree with you NL , but I felt that the drill was a tad too fast for comfort ...

I guess it all depends on what the goal is. He is an advanced player with a mature technique trying to make minor technical changes in a way that he can practically apply them to his game. He is not like me for example who is spending time rebuilding his whole approach to the game.
 
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Don't listen to OSPH , he is the epitome of humility

Nah, not humility ... i'm reading the 3 replies and see that I DON'T see what you 3 saw! which means i'm still ... wait for it ...

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1400 :) (i'm joking! I'm 1375 or whatever, couldn't even get to 1400 - ok ok i'm joking)
 
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I really can't understand how you generate spin without any backswing :O But it seems to work.

Isn't that a very cramped feeling to loop like this?

This is about exactly what my coach wants from me at the table and i can vouch that it works. Mine isn't nearly as pretty or as powerful as Takkyu's, but there's definitely spin and speed to it. The trick is taking the ball quick off the bounce and "carrying" it with your paddle. You use the incoming ball's energy to give you spin and speed. I'm jealous of his consistency though, holy hell...
 
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Your comment made me realize something NL, Some times during warm up , I try to loop from close to the table and it normally helps me to rectify my technique whenever I feel that I am not engaging my core in my loops , even though I don't have the fleetness of footwork :) to play like this in match, eventually it helps out . I did not know why because it does not feel like a regular loop but now I think I know from what you said :)
I guess it all depends on what the goal is. He is an advanced player with a mature technique trying to make minor technical changes in a way that he can practically apply them to his game. He is not like me for example who is spending time rebuilding his whole approach to the game.
 
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What is everyone's favorite shot to perform in table tennis?

Not your point winner, not your most effective shot: your favorite shot.

It'd have to be lobbing and blocking against opponents who hit very hard. Perhaps with an edge to lobbing.

Whenever I get to play in a space with a high roof, I lob as high as I can. I even lob in my normal venue, with the relatively low ceiling.

There's just something about it that's so fun.

Mine would be this here, although mine is nowhere as good as Adam's.



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I really can't understand how you generate spin without any backswing :O But it seems to work.

Isn't that a very cramped feeling to loop like this?

well first my blade+rubbers are quite fast. what is important is the impact, the stroke is shortened but quite fast, and as NL says i try to help from my body, I try to use my legs and always give a small forward impulse without losing my balance. Maybe its difficult to see given the angle of the video.

Maybe its the Japanese school, but all my coaches have told me to work on shortening strokes when near the table. Thats even more true on the BH side.
Going back even 50cm more from the table, then you would take more backswing, or on a slower shot when going for a kill then a bigger stroke.

If you have enough arm speed, I think its good to take more backswing. Try to do a drill, if you can't play the next shot because you are late, check if its because of your footwork or because your arm is late. If its your arm, probably your stroke is too big.

as NL said its important to have all the arm relaxed, the wrist as well, just slightly firm the grip at impact. If your muscles get tense you lose arm speed and control, and you get tired more quickly.

Agree with you NL , but I felt that the drill was a tad too fast for comfort ...
well yes I was struggling at times, but i had a few good series. The good speed i believe is where you can make long series without making any miss. Obviously, between long series, there are times i make quite a few mistakes. I think its a problem of stamina and focus. So its good, because it helps to work on it.

In the middle of the drill, the coach says to go for slower loops sometimes, as at one point I'm losing consistency. I try to get better control and finish a bit better.

Basically the coach is just blocking so its going fast because i'm going fast, i should be able in this drill to slow down, play slower topspins to recover when i'm tired or a bit out of position. The coach always says what matters most is to make no miss.

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That being said, i don't think its got a big impact for that particular drill, but my upper body is way too high, which is really bad. when its that high, you can't control counter-topspin shots. Usually i try to go even lower on my legs to compensate, but its not very good. In drills i can do it, but in matchs more often that not, i would be forced to block.

The upper body being high is also even worse for executing BH. Thats why i'm making so many mistakes on BH side after coming from FH in the second drill.
I forgot to film it but in BH to BH drill I'm able to stay lower because there is no randomness, and i have similar consistency than FH as well (or even slightly better)... but i'm alas not able to keep this posture with randomness (and thus in matches). I really really have to work on it because that's so important.

The second drill is a simple one, like in a match you don't know which way the ball is going. there is some pace but not much spin on the balls, so they are rather simple. its really about following the ball, a little bit of footwork and being able to alternate FH and BH. But that little difference with randomness makes a whole difference in results because of some fundamental flaw in my technique that i need to correct to get to the next level.

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Also i think my motion is not smooth enough. I may lose too much energy. After 7 minutes you can see I'm done for. Although i was in better form than usual.
 
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The upper body being high is also even worse for executing BH. Thats why i'm making so many mistakes on BH side after coming from FH in the second drill.
I forgot to film it but in BH to BH drill I'm able to stay lower because there is no randomness, and i have similar consistency than FH as well (or even slightly better)... but i'm alas not able to keep this posture with randomness (and thus in matches). I really really have to work on it because that's so important.

The second drill is a simple one, like in a match you don't know which way the ball is going. there is some pace but not much spin on the balls, so they are rather simple. its really about following the ball, a little bit of footwork and being able to alternate FH and BH. But that little difference with randomness makes a whole difference in results because of some fundamental flaw in my technique that i need to correct to get to the next level.

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Also i think my motion is not smooth enough. I may lose too much energy. After 7 minutes you can see I'm done for. Although i was in better form than usual.

It would be interesting to see your backhand drill because while being more bent forward may help, you don't approach the stroke the same way you approach your forehand. I suspect it is a combination of stiff wrist in the random drill combined with a bad contact point for your grip on the backhand side. You consistently try to play over the ball on the forehand side, but on the backhand side, you act surprised and don't try to complete the stroke and play over the ball. You do it but you stop short, waiting for the ball to go back to where you feel comfortable, which is the forehand. I would say you should change two things - stop trying to make contact on the back of the ball, try to catch the ball with a stroke that is offering a full bat face to the ball and use that to play over the ball in a circular way and send the ball back down the line the same way you do it with your forehand (Upper arm rotation). The ball may not be as spinny in the beginning but it will be a good foundation for a confident topspin and will be similar to one when you have the time to favor your backhand.

It is similar to but more circular than this stroke here, but just think about doing what you do with your forehand on the backhand side:

youtu.be/ld8Nad1apHE?t=313
 
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Thanks ttmonster, as well as everyone else who have responded to my video requesting help. I must say I didn't read ttmonster's reply prior to my game against my friend this morning.

But I have tried to take into account everybody's comments and advices.
It was a very tough game. I am not going to give away the score in this post, as I think it will take the fun away from the video. But all I can say is, I tried really hard to change my playing style. This isn't the normal style of serves that I prefer to do in match situations, but I feel that, sometimes it isn't about what I like or not, but rather what works better against individual players.

I have tried to take more notice in my serve and receive, being more aggressive in terms of getting a 3rd ball in, short soft but spinnier loops, as well as less negative self talk (OSP, I am still trying to change, but I think there may need to be a balance of thinking what just happened as well as what I should do next shot as opposed to that was a crap shot made by me or what a stupid mistake I made xD)

With regards to ttmonster's comment regarding my backhand, whether I should stick to rpb or traditional backhand, I agree with your comment. At the moment, I will be sticking to using more of my rpb, and I will try not to use the traditional backhand block unless its a smash that I have no time to respond to.

Anyway, without further delay, here is the video of the match which we played today.
A little bit of a spiller: Almost every game has a very close score (except game 2), so I would suggest keeping a record of the score if you can, as it may add to how close the games are. I haven't had the opportunity to do any editing so what you see is what actually happened.

Enjoy :)


P.S. I am happy my rpb delivered when it mattered most.
 
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I'll try to film a BH drill next time.. FH/BH transition is one of the basic difficulties to overcome and i haven't yet. BH alone is quite good (I think you'll be surprised actually because the random drill gives a very bad result in comparison).

its a mix of different things : the randomness, so i'm caught off guard and off balance, my balance is even poorer because of the upper body: often i feel on "one leg" (right one) hitting those BH. I need more confidence as well and to be more active. On a few rallies especially towards the end, i am more active and its slightly better. In this kind of drill (or multiball) once you lose the tempo, and start to become a bit passive its soon over.

Still, the current situation is an improvement compared to a few months ago. For example, a classic mistake that I don't much make anymore. When i was late on the BH, i would try to catch it behind my line. One should actually try to do the contrary. If you are late and cannot take a minimum of backswing to make a clean shot, then at least go for a block, and going for a block means going towards the ball at its bounce. Sounds counterintuitive but thats actually the way to deal with these situations.
 
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@JeffM

i'm not surprised by the result at all. In the last video, the guy was winning but was using basically just one tactic, exploiting the same weakness, and we could see his strokes were less spinny and with less quality than yours. You just played for consistency some shots, not great shots, but forcing the opponent to move and that was enough as he started making many errors.

I can tell you were sometimes lacking confidence, but overall when things got better and your mind clear you made nice shots.
 
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