European Games 2019

[NextLevel]

IIRC it's a long, long time ago that any of these players mentioned were of chinese nationality.

Yeah but their names tell a different story. It's not like Japan where you change your name when you become Japanese.

 

[yoass]

Yeah but their names tell a different story. It's not like Japan where you change your name when you become Japanese.

Yeah, and narratives carry force, and I despise the narrative of birth nationality as a characteristic defining humans. I actually believe the nation state is a fairly recent artficial construct. With arbitrary borders defined in a haphazard fashion. Nations do not define people, and my mind always rebels when I see a subtext of what to me reeks of the narrative of nationality. And fail to bite my tongue, making a no doubt sometimes unwarranted remark every now and then...

 

[NextLevel]

Yeah, and narratives carry force, and I despise the narrative of birth nationality as a characteristic defining humans. I actually believe the nation state is a fairly recent artficial construct. With arbitrary borders defined in a haphazard fashion. Nations do not define people, and my mind always rebels when I see a subtext of what to me reeks of the narrative of nationality. And fail to bite my tongue, making a no doubt sometimes unwarranted remark every now and then...

That is fine. I am always a fan of reality. As long as you don't ignore facts, please tell any story you want.

 

[yoass]

That is fine. I am always a fan of reality. As long as you don't ignore facts, please tell any story you want.

We just might disagree there. Reality is made by the narrative, and some narratives are inherently harmful, dehumanizing, divisive, hateful. The narrative of nationality is the narrative of us versus them. Of humans, our own, versus subhumans, the enemy. I think you see how this works, at least how my mind perceives this. Our own thought, attitude, sensibillities, affinities are shaped from these narratives. I choose to embrace another one, and the reality that ensues is a different one.

 

[v100ev]

Well, it's all interisting what you write here..
But I'm more interested in what ball are they using..
Cause it seemed to me that it was not the d40+.

 

[yoass]

Here's silly lil'ol'me, secretly hoping for one last majestic Boll-Samsonov final at the pointy end of the gender spectrum. And even more secretly rooting for Uncle Vova.

Well, the draw did not allow for that. But we will get this match today, even if it's not the final. I'm stoked.

 

[zeio]

Ionescu/Szocs 3-2 Flore/Gasnier. A roller coaster ride.

 

[zeio]

Well, it's all interisting what you write here..
But I'm more interested in what ball are they using..
Cause it seemed to me that it was not the d40+.

Says DHS 40+ in the prospectus for the preparation camp. The reason behind all the upsets if that's really what they're using?

Tibhar SYNTT NG *** 40+

 

[JesperStef]

Results from Day 3 (Mon 24 June 2019):

Men's Singles

Round 4 (Round of 16):

[1] Timo Boll 4:0 Marcos Freitas [11] (11:7, 13:11, 11:8, 11:7)
[5] Vladimir Samsonov 4:2 Kirill Skachkov (8:11, 11:4, 16:18, 11:4, 11:7, 13:11)

[9] Emmanuel Lebesson 4:2 Kristian Karlsson [7] (11:6, 11:7, 11:9, 8:11, 12:14, 11:5)
[12] Tomislac Pucar 4:2 Panagiotis Gionis (8:11, 12:10, 9:11, 11:9, 11:8, 11:9)

[10] Jonathan Groth 4:0 Dimitrij Ovtcharov [3] (11:7, 11:7, 11:9, 11:9)
Wang Yang, SVK 4:2 Bojan Tokic (7:11, 11:7, 8:11, 11:6, 11:5, 11:8)

[14] Cedric Nuytinck 4:3 Andrej Gacina (11:9, 11:8, 8:11, 11:8, 8:11, 3:11, 13:11)
Kou Lei, UKR 4:1 Alexander Shibaev (11:9, 11:4, 6:11, 11:7, 11:9)


Women's Singles

Round 4 (Round of 16):

[15] Ni Xia Lian, LUX 4:3 Bernadette Szocs [1] (11:7, 11:8, 11:9, 7:11, 9:11, 8:11, 11:7)
Linda Bergström 4:0 Georgina Pota [6] (11:6, 11:4, 11:8, 15:13)

[8] Fu Yu, POR 4:1 Ganna Gaponova (11:3, 11:5, 11:7, 9:11, 11:7)
[4] Petrissa Solja 4:3 Li Qian, POL [14] (12:14, 11:8, 10:12, 11:6, 5:11, 12:10, 11:5)

[12] Polina Mikhailova 4:3 Matilda Ekholm [3] (11:5, 11:13, 9:11, 11:8, 5:11, 11:7, 11:8)
Yang Xiaoxin, MON 4:0 Viktoria Pavlovich (12:10, 11:5, 11:7, 11:7)

[7] Li Jie, NED 4:3 Shao Jieni, POR (9:11, 9:11, 11:6, 12:10, 13:15, 11:5, 11:7)
[13] Han Ying, GER 4:0 Sofia Polcanova [2] (12:10, 13:11, 13:11, 11:8)


Mixed Doubles

Quarter-finals:

[1] Lubomir Pistej/Barbora Balazova 3:0 Alvaro Robles/Galia Dvorak [7] (11:7, 14:12, 11:5)
[3] Patrick Franziska/Petrissa Solja 3:0 Niagol Stoyanov/Giorgia Piccolin (11:2, 11:4, 11:6)

[4] Tristan Flore/Laura Gasnier 3:2 Pavel Platonov/Nadezhda Bogdanova (11:4, 7:11, 11:6, 12:14, 11:4)
[6] Ovidiu Ionescu/Bernadette Szocs 3:0 Alexander Shibaev/Polina Mikhailova (11:3, 11:7, 11:8)


Source: https://minsk2019.by/en/tsrd/TTE/results

 

[TheKhan123]

Results from Day 3 (Mon 24 June 2019):

Men's Singles

Round 4 (Round of 16):

[1] Timo Boll 4:0 Marcos Freitas [11] (11:7, 13:11, 11:8, 11:7)
[5] Vladimir Samsonov 4:2 Kirill Skachkov (8:11, 11:4, 16:18, 11:4, 11:7, 13:11)

[9] Emmanuel Lebesson 4:2 Kristian Karlsson [7] (11:6, 11:7, 11:9, 8:11, 12:14, 11:5)
[12] Tomislac Pucar 4:2 Panagiotis Gionis (8:11, 12:10, 9:11, 11:9, 11:8, 11:9)

[10] Jonathan Groth 4:0 Dimitrij Ovtcharov [3] (11:7, 11:7, 11:9, 11:9)
Wang Yang, SVK 4:2 Bojan Tokic (7:11, 11:7, 8:11, 11:6, 11:5, 11:8)

[14] Cedric Nuytinck 4:3 Andrej Gacina (11:9, 11:8, 8:11, 11:8, 8:11, 3:11, 13:11)
Kou Lei, UKR 4:1 Alexander Shibaev (11:9, 11:4, 6:11, 11:7, 11:9)


Women's Singles

Round 4 (Round of 16):

[15] Ni Xia Lian, LUX 4:3 Bernadette Szocs [1] (11:7, 11:8, 11:9, 7:11, 9:11, 8:11, 11:7)
Linda Bergström 4:0 Georgina Pota [6] (11:6, 11:4, 11:8, 15:13)

[8] Fu Yu, POR 4:1 Ganna Gaponova (11:3, 11:5, 11:7, 9:11, 11:7)
[4] Petrissa Solja 4:3 Li Qian, POL [14] (12:14, 11:8, 10:12, 11:6, 5:11, 12:10, 11:5)

[12] Polina Mikhailova 4:3 Matilda Ekholm [3] (11:5, 11:13, 9:11, 11:8, 5:11, 11:7, 11:8)
Yang Xiaoxin, MON 4:0 Viktoria Pavlovich (12:10, 11:5, 11:7, 11:7)

[7] Li Jie, NED 4:3 Shao Jieni, POR (9:11, 9:11, 11:6, 12:10, 13:15, 11:5, 11:7)
[13] Han Ying, GER 4:0 Sofia Polcanova [2] (12:10, 13:11, 13:11, 11:8)


Mixed Doubles

Quarter-finals:

[1] Lubomir Pistej/Barbora Balazova 3:0 Alvaro Robles/Galia Dvorak [7] (11:7, 14:12, 11:5)
[3] Patrick Franziska/Petrissa Solja 3:0 Niagol Stoyanov/Giorgia Piccolin (11:2, 11:4, 11:6)

[4] Tristan Flore/Laura Gasnier 3:2 Pavel Platonov/Nadezhda Bogdanova (11:4, 7:11, 11:6, 12:14, 11:4)
[6] Ovidiu Ionescu/Bernadette Szocs 3:0 Alexander Shibaev/Polina Mikhailova (11:3, 11:7, 11:8)


Source: https://minsk2019.by/en/tsrd/TTE/results

Yooooooo, Dima is DESTROYED :/

 

[driversbeat]

Polcanova, Szocs destroyed by old guards while Solja barely survives.

Europe's "future"

 

[zeio]

Chinese European Games 2019 - 50% accomplished.

 

[yoass]

Chinese European

Nearly everybody has a direct lineage to Attilla the Hun and Dzjengis Khan. We're all one, brother.

 

[Atas Newton]

The more relevant question here is where did a given player learn to play. If it was within CNT or a lower level Chinese TT system, I think it's somewhat fair to bring it up. If they simply immigrated at young age and learned to play in Europe, then all credit to European TT school.

 

[v100ev]

Ni Xia Lian can take this. She just needs Solja to lose (cause I think Solja is the biggest threat for her).

 

[NextLevel]

The more relevant question here is where did a given player learn to play. If it was within CNT or a lower level Chinese TT system, I think it's somewhat fair to bring it up. If they simply immigrated at young age and learned to play in Europe, then all credit to European TT school.

Nah, noticing facts makes you guilty of dehumanizing hate. Just pretend it is all European TT so we can all live happily ever after.

 

[ulrich]

Any streams?

 

[NextLevel]

Chinese European Games 2019 - 50% accomplished.

Solja loses deuce in the 7th.

 

[zeio]

Chinese European Games 2019 - 50% accomplished.

 

[yoass]

Nah, noticing facts makes you guilty of dehumanizing hate. Just pretend it is all European TT so we can all live happily ever after.

Wow. You’re entirely free to your own storyline, but at some point us humans tend to consider that narrative we embraced to be reality. I think I see a suggestion of an unwavering reality in these lines, but hey, that’s the narrative of nation-bases exclusiveness framing that perception.

Me, I don’t even think the notion of EU TT makes sense. All the world’s a stage, and all men and women merely players.

I’ll shut up now. That SYN-TT 40+ threestar should be decent enough if it’s the NG version, right?

And off I go, rooting for Solja. Because of her play. Nothing else matters.