26th Asian Table Tennis Championship

[NextLevel]

Batra: It's easy to forget what happened 9 months ago.

https://mytabletennis.net/forum/for...&title=asian-cup-2022-bangkok-11-1719#1135087


https://youtu.be/DeQCM-I2-H8?t=15670

I was going to bring that up in my response, but honestly, Hayata did not look like Hayata in that event.

 

[zeio]

I was going to bring that up in my response, but honestly, Hayata did not look like Hayata in that event.

Admittedly, Hayata just came back from her injury in October (missing her first WTTC team final against China). However, DHK, playing with a golfer's elbow, managed to go down to the wire (3-1 -> 3-4) and beat CIC 4-2 in the previous round (CIC's poor luck also hit this time?). Despite that state, it still took Hirano to beat Hayata at Zennoh Cup Funabashi roughly several days before that.

 

[NextLevel]

Admittedly, Hayata just came back from her injury in October (missing her first WTTC team final against China). However, DHK, playing with a golfer's elbow, managed to go down to the wire (3-1 -> 3-4) and beat CIC 4-2 in the previous round (CIC's poor luck also hit this time?). Despite that state, it still took Hirano to beat Hayata at Zennoh Cup Funabashi roughly several days before that.

I agree, Hayata was a mixed bag in the Asian Cup in 2022, but she was still pretty strong and Batra had the best tournament of her life. I haven't watched the teams match, but Batra must have given a good fight and I suspect the Japanese ordered their lineup to get Hayata to play Batra as they played her in the #2 spot.

 

[zeio]

Not just this time. Like Fukuhara, I think I almost never got it right. When I think they wouldn't follow the rules, they prove me wrong and vice versa.

For those wondering about the lineups against Japan and South Korea, China followed the preset rules this time.

http://mytabletennis.net/Forum/foru...479&title=attc-2023-pyeongchang-9-310#1144479

 

[zeio]

I agree, Hayata was a mixed bag in the Asian Cup in 2022, but she was still pretty strong and Batra had the best tournament of her life. I haven't watched the teams match, but Batra must have given a good fight and I suspect the Japanese ordered their lineup to get Hayata to play Batra as they played her in the #2 spot.

Yeah, Batra played well despite losing in straight games. She had a big chance in G2, having led for the majority of it. Japan was the ABC team and putting Hayata in the 2nd singles spot was likely intentional.

https://www.miguvideo.com/p/live/120000472385 (A/V out of sync, China's IP needed)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=caqcqatpK8g (A/V out of sync)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ToZcHcImnU0 (A/V out of sync)

 

[NextLevel]

As for Shinozuka, he made it to the selection because he satisfied the JTTA criteria (before his injury he got good results and was N2 in internal ranking points for paris olympics race at the time of cutoff selection date).
His form has dropped a lot since so it's no surprise he got killed by FZD.

Looking at match order, its likely the coach thought that Japan's only chance was for Harimoto to win 2 singles like at WTTTC 2022 and that Togami won against ML as he seems now below FZD and WCQ due to his age, and it was likely that ML would be N3 player like at WTTC 2022. so he deliberately put Togami in 3rd player instead of Shinozuka. But even an old ML is way too strong for Togami.

anyway looking at Japan's current players, there is no obvious N3 player for the squad. I'm afraid that Japan men's team won't get medals, even bronze in upcoming competitions.

Get Mizutani to unretire!

 

[fore.n.back]

Get Mizutani to unretire!

more like get his ass to join the coaching staff, ever since he retires all he has done is being a tv show celebrity and criticize younger players

 

[Gozo Zyreruna]

Wang Manyu will play


pips can attack too, especially Batra.
you probably haven't watched enough of high level chop blockers to understand what they can do.

What Hayata does was to change the tempo and to be in control and not to be controlled

This is what I implied in my earlier post. Hayata made some adjustments to her spin and tempo to disrupt Batra's rhythm. A pro like Hayata can do it. Regular amateur player like Gozo et al, is at serious disadvantage because we are not so skilled in changing tempo like Hayata. Pips players ain't need don't do shit and they already got such a huge advantage for doing nadda / zilch! You can't really fault us amateurs for being a cry-baby, ok!

 

[blahness]

This is what I implied in my earlier post. Hayata made some adjustments to her spin and tempo to disrupt Batra's rhythm. A pro like Hayata can do it. Regular amateur player like Gozo et al, is at serious disadvantage because we are not so skilled in changing tempo like Hayata. Pips players ain't need don't do shit and they already got such a huge advantage for doing nadda / zilch! You can't really fault us amateurs for being a cry-baby, ok!

Gozo if you can't beat them join them I'm already on my way to doing so lol

 

[Takkyu_wa_inochi]

cant find the YT link for LIVE match China v Korea men's SF. WTF with YT ?

all i see is this one, but the SF is scheduled now

 

[zeio]

As demonstrated by JWJ in the MT F, Japan needs an extremely FH-oriented player like Uda to at least make China sweat. Togami, Shinozuka, Tanaka and Yoshiyama can't play that role at all. The burden on Harimoto is too heavy.

https://www.tabletennisdaily.com/forum/topics/tokyo-2020-2020-7-24-8-9.23698/post-349842

Togami has shown he can play doubles with various teammates, driving FZD/XX to the brink in the SF of ATTC 2019. The thing with Uda right now is that he plays exactly like a South Korean player, placing too much reliance on form. He either upsets or gets upset, making him wildly unpredictable, but could be a great asset under the right conditions. OTOH, Togami has way more balance between FH and BH, making him much more consistent, that could be a great balancer for the team event between 2 extremes as Harimoto and Uda.

 

[zeio]

A valiant effort from LJH, making Little Chubby work overtime.

 

[fore.n.back]

As demonstrated by JWJ in the MT F, Japan needs an extremely FH-oriented player like Uda to at least make China sweat. Togami, Shinozuka, Tanaka and Yoshiyama can't play that role at all. The burden on Harimoto is too heavy.

https://www.tabletennisdaily.com/forum/topics/tokyo-2020-2020-7-24-8-9.23698/post-349842

Uda's backhand is too weak to support his 1-winged style especially for a lefty.

 

[NextLevel]

As demonstrated by JWJ in the MT F, Japan needs an extremely FH-oriented player like Uda to at least make China sweat. Togami, Shinozuka, Tanaka and Yoshiyama can't play that role at all. The burden on Harimoto is too heavy.

https://www.tabletennisdaily.com/forum/topics/tokyo-2020-2020-7-24-8-9.23698/post-349842

Uda is not the answer either, they just have to un-retire Mizutani and invest in Matsushima.

 

[fore.n.back]

imo the best option of the 3rd player for JPN right now might be Tanaka rather than Shinozuka. Although his tactical wit and stability are slightly below Shinozuka, his physique allows more potential to develop.

 

[zeio]

Uda's backhand is too weak to support his 1-winged style especially for a lefty.

Yeah, Uda has made note of his FH-BH imbalance after winning the All-Japan TTC 2020 when he looked back on WTTC 2021.

 

[turbozed]

ATTU streaming has been a disaster. First off the framerate looks even less than 30 fps and looks like a slideshow. There is no commentary or replay or anything. That's if you can even watch a stream.

Yesterday for some reason the CNT vs JPN women's SF match wasn't even available. Today looks there isn't a stream for men's team either. People are waiting for the livestream complaining.

Who is running this organization?

 

[Takkyu_wa_inochi]

ATTU streaming has been a disaster. First off the framerate looks even less than 30 fps and looks like a slideshow. There is no commentary or replay or anything. That's if you can even watch a stream.

Yesterday for some reason the CNT vs JPN women's SF match wasn't even available. Today looks there isn't a stream for men's team either. People are waiting for the livestream complaining.

Who is running this organization?

its a shame indeed. So we couldn't see China v Japan Women's SF yesterday, and not the China v Korea Men's SF today. WTF ...

Korea lost against China 0-3 but it looks there was some real challenge this time

 

[bachikho]

i still think Uda is best choice for Japan's No3 spot (in a good day he can win any China player just like Hugo, but there are not much good days)

 

[Tony's Table Tennis]