WTT Champions Frankfurt 2023

[zeio]

Moregard was lucky his "creativity" worked in his favor at WTTC 2021.

 

[JeffM]

Definitely there's a problem of audio sync in the Highlights videos. I wonder how they even publish the videos in such condition?

Maybe their desperate means to force their fans to watch their videos live where the audio is working

 

[tackyfh]

It's amazing that the umpire can call an edge on a clearly side ball from Chen

 

[Tony's Table Tennis]

It's amazing that the umpire can call an edge on a clearly side ball from Chen

it is just history repeating itself, well, sort of

 

[zeio]

China is different
When your "future" world champion come on board, they are still a junior

In Japan, the kids become seniors, become all stars.

WMY and SYS was a unknown until recently to be honest.
DN and ZYL with CM hold that spot and WMY and SYS both had to wait for the "big sisters" retirements, or by beating them.

Same with CM who had DN, LSW and LXX blocking her.
and the same 3 blocking a younger ZYL too
Young DN was blocked until ZYN and WN retired and had Guo Yue and Guo Yan to handle + LSW and LXX

You make it sound like we're the typical fanboys and fangirls. WMY won WJTTC 2014 and 2015. SYS won WJTTC 2017 (IIRC, first and only try). They went dark for most of 2018, especially after WTTC 2018 (WMY even lost to FTW 1-3), all thanks to Hirano and Ito because CNT didn't want to take any chances (SYS edged out Hirano in both JS and XT at Buenos Aires 2018). Yet it was because of them that SYS got the chance to play WTTC 2019 and stopped Ito in her tracks and then went on to win ATTC 2019. The consensus on Tieba is that it was Hirano and Ito that forced the old guards out. Even LGL chewed CM out for "announcing" her era had arrived, reminding her how many World Titles were needed to play singles in previous Olympics.

https://mytabletennis.net/forum/for...&title=2021-wttc-houston-usa-nov-2329#1120924

WMY was already known in 2014. She almost didn't make the CNT A team in 2016. No one didn't know SYS after the back-to-back Japan Open and China Open in 2017.

 

[pongfugrasshopper]

BERNIE SZOCS! Another awesome win against Chen Meng!!!!!!!

 

[disaster3]

I’m so happy that Bernie won this!! Congrats to her!!!🥳🎉

 

[Takkyu_wa_inochi]

i was not joking when i said Felix and Bernie are the next Olympic champs lol

TBH it looks a real possibility that SUN Yingsha and WANG Manyu will win the 2 single spots and CHEN Meng won't be allowed to defend her title

 

[tackyfh]

ven LGL chewed CM out for "announcing" her era had arrived, reminding her how many World Titles were needed to play singles in previous Olympics.

She just lost Bernie for the 2nd time so LGL should've chewed harder lol

But mad props to Szocs, I remembered the time she was a punching bag for asian players in general, now she's able to hold long rallies and her serve/receive is solid.

 

[zeio]

Hayata: Hey, that was my prey, Szocs-san!

https://mytabletennis.net/forum/for...tle=wtt-contender-zagreb-2023-6-267-2#1142859

Hirano (WR1 SYS and WR3 WYD in 2023) and Szocs (WR2 CM in 2022 and 2023, and WR7 CXT in 2023) are the only 2 non-CNT players to have defeated more than 1 core CNT player in the Paris 2024 period.
WTT CT Zagreb 2023 F Hirano 4-3 SYS
Singapore Smash 2023 R32 Hirano 3-2 WYD

WTT CS Frankfurt 2023 R16 Szocs 3-2 CM
WTT CS Macao 2023 R32 Szocs 3-1 CXT
WTT CS Macao 2022 R16 Szocs 3-2 CM

That is why coming close doesn't cut it anymore. Hayata needs to beat more than just WYD. Even Mizutani said back in July beating what was technically the No. 4 player on the CNT was only "meeting the bare minimum".

 

[Tony's Table Tennis]

You make it sound like we're the typical fanboys and fangirls. WMY won WJTTC 2014 and 2015. SYS won WJTTC 2017 (IIRC, first and only try). They went dark for most of 2018, especially after WTTC 2018 (WMY even lost to FTW 1-3), all thanks to Hirano and Ito because CNT didn't want to take any chances. Yet it was because of them that SYS got the chance to play WTTC 2019 and stopped Ito in her tracks and then went on to win ATTC 2019. The consensus on Tieba is that it was Hirano and Ito that forced the old guards out. Even LGL chewed CM out for "announcing" her era had arrived, reminding her how many World Titles were needed to play singles in previous Olympics.

https://mytabletennis.net/forum/for...&title=2021-wttc-houston-usa-nov-2329#1120924

what was SYS age in 2019?
15 years old?
After rereading your comment, I'm not sure if you are actually understanding what I'm trying to say about CNT example where players are over 18 years old before become close to a leader and really solidating the position in there 20s.

Out of my memory without googling. FZD is likely the youngest to get a front seat in WR and CNT at a very young age. and he still had 3 to 4 big brothers keeping him in line.

Update
In fact, to proof my point (with some quick check)
at age 16, FZD hit WR10, but had 6 CNT mens ahead of him.
Within 3 months, he become a WR5 and had 4 in front of him.

This is what I mean by aging naturally

 

[tackyfh]

Fan Zhendong with that WQC drip lmao

 

[Tony's Table Tennis]

2 Chinese loss in a row.
Not often you see that

 

[zeio]

She just lost Bernie for the 2nd time so LGL should've chewed harder lol

But mad props to Szocs, I remembered the time she was a punching bag for asian players in general, now she's able to hold long rallies and her serve/receive is solid.

Weakest and luckiest Olympic Champion in recent history for sure.

Ishikawa: Maybe I should've stuck around a little longer.

 

[zeio]

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Fan Zhendong with that WQC drip lmao

Evil FZD. LOL

 

[Jslick89]

2 Chinese loss in a row.
Not often you see that

don't tell my wife but i have a major crush on Bernadette

 

[tackyfh]

It's rare to see such a fair audience cheering for both side rather than just *insert chinese player name* jiayooo repeating over and over again

 

[Tony's Table Tennis]

don't tell my wife but i have a major crush on Bernadette

please don't get me involved with dangerous things, especially if it involves your boss and other girls

 

[Tony's Table Tennis]

Might be 3 chinese loss in a row and opening up Felix in the Final??

 

[tackyfh]

Tonight might be a haunting night for Chinese fans lol, all of their players struggle like never before. FZD seems to be slower than normal today