ITTF World Team Table Tennis Championships Finals Busan 2024

[TensorBackhand]

Watching China vs Korea on VPN now. VPN is pretty cool way to learn about the world, getting Dutch youtube ads now.

Also, when will Wang Hao coach start forcing his players to use Loki rubbers.

 

[zeio]

MT SF
KOR 1-0 -> 1-1 -> 2-1 -> 2-2 -> 2-3 CHN
JWJ 3-1 WCQ
G1 85, 95, 106, 107, 117
G2 08, 28, 29, 211
G3 41, 46, 66, 67, 87, 89, 99, 910, 1110, 1111, 1211 TO for JWJ, 1311
G4 01, 41 TO for WCQ, 51, 53, 73 two dead nets in a row for JWJ, 74, 84, 86, 116
LJH 0-3 FZD
G1 03, 23 slight net for LJH, 26, 46, 47, 77 FZD served off the table, 79, 89, 811
G2 02, 22, 24, 34, 55, 65, 611
G3 02 TO for LJH, 03, 33, 34, 54, 57, 67, 610, 710 TO for FZD, 810, 811
LSS 3-2 ML
G1 21, 41, 43, 53, 55, 85, 86, 106, 107, 117
G2 01, 11, 16, 26, 37, 310, 410, 411
G3 10, 12, 32, 37, 47 corner edge for LSS, 57, 58, 78 TO for ML, 88, 89, 99, 910, 1210
G4 20, 21, 23 ML yellow carded for stalling, 33, 39, 59 heavy net for LSS, 510, 610, 611
G5 10, 12 slight net for ML, 22, 23, 43 heavy net for LSS, 53 heavy endline edge for LSS, 73, 74 TO for LSS, 114
JWJ 0-3 FZD
G1 11, 14, 24, 27, 37, 39, 69, 610
G2 03, 14, 24, 25, 55, 57, 77, 78 slight net for FZD, 711
G3 01, 11, 12, 22, 23, 33, 34, 44, 45 TO for JWJ, 46, 66, 67, 77, 78, 88, 89, 99, 910, 1010, 1012
LJH 0-3 WCQ
G1 01 endline edge for WCQ, 06, 26, 27 slight endline edge for WCQ, 210, 510, 511
G2 01, 11, 12, 42, 43, 63, 65 TO for LJH, 69, 79, 711
G3 10, 13, 23, 24, 44, 46, 56, 510, 610, 611

 

[Tony's Table Tennis]

LYJ proven himself by winning Frankfurt against 2 very hot top CNT players (Wang Chuqin and Ma Long) imo. I think the threat level against CNT between Harimoto and LYJ are about equal at this point in time...

teams and individual is different pressure
many who can beat CNT in individuals do fail to do it in teams - you can go check the stats

 

[Tony's Table Tennis]

I don't think anyone on the French team will go past Lin Yun Ju given how hot he is at the moment. So the question is if Kao or Chuang can get the remaining point, which with their fighting spirit I tend to believe that they can upset the French team.

Chuang really pulled out a superhuman performance against Dang Qiu who wasn't playing bad at all. That kind of speed at his age is kinda unbelievable, wonder how did he maintain it when almost every other player slowed down dramatically and had to rely on tricks - no, Chuang looked even faster than the youngsters in that match lol.

Taiwan going all the way to the finals this time?!

I actually wanted to talk about Chuang, but thought I did already in the past
but since you mentioned it, here go it

Chuang doesn't drink or smoke
he has a healthy diet - people will think it is normal among athletes, well not all maintain good diets

Chuang has always been very discipline on his training, and he hasn't been slacking in this department, especially since Rio 2016, when he was supposedly going to retire - yes, its now 2 olympics cycles later and he is still maintaining a top 30 level.

Chuang is physically strong, his legs I did thought are slowing down - which is maybe link to reaction time. But yesterday, he was moving very early.

So, Chuang is indeed a rare bread.
Chuang came from eras with other top players, of who, ALL have retired long ago, and have all picked up weight, or smoke/drink, or have bad diet. Chuang is the fittest among his age group + 30s and 20s age group.

I guess him leading kids, he also trains with them and lead by example.
He runs with them (or maybe more than them if i'm correct).
He has always been like that, run more than what the coaches told him to do

In Durban, my Taiwanese friends took the whole TPE WTTC team out. Chuang chose to give it a past , because he isn't into wining and dining and siteseeing. He probably stayed behind to train

 

[TensorBackhand]

Who is that beautiful Korean team trainer that the camerman keeps focusing on

 

[TensorBackhand]

Uh Oh, I see FZD warming up with his racket. Will he forget to submit it for pre-test

 

[OvrChkn]

I was worried that I wouldn't be able to stay up for some of the matches tonight.

This match is all I needed. What an environment

 

[Tony's Table Tennis]

when this happened, I knew WCQ will be the most brittle Chinese Championship ever
his body language has shown again that he will loose control when it matters

 

[TensorBackhand]

Love it! What an exciting match and exciting atmosphere.
What I love about Jang is that he plays the "right" way. He doesn't stand square in the middle of the table like a crab and just rally. He moves in and out, pivots and counters with the big forehand. He understands that winning a 20 shot rally is the same points as winning a 3 shot rally.

 

[fore.n.back]

Watching China vs Korea on VPN now. VPN is pretty cool way to learn about the world, getting Dutch youtube ads now.

Also, when will Wang Hao coach start forcing his players to use Loki rubbers.

until Loki can make a rubber better than H3 lol

 

[NextLevel]

Harimoto: Wang Chuqin is hard to beat!
Jang: Hold my beer...

 

[Tony's Table Tennis]

Uh Oh, I see FZD warming up with his racket. Will he forget to submit it for pre-test

i'm not sure if you are just acting dumb
you can see FZD's racket put on the table by the umpires before FZD even walks to the table.
meaning, FZD is not warming up with match racket

what photos shows us: FZD walking to the table, but hey, his racket is on the table - put there by the assistant umpire. Any one who been to a live match would know how it works.

 

[fore.n.back]

when this happened, I knew WCQ will be the most brittle Chinese Championship ever
his body language has shown again that he will loose control when it matters

compared to his seniors, WCQ only excels in 3rd & 5th ball attacks and is weaker in rallies. Furthermore this guy's FH and BH frame is much more chaotic thus in tense situation will be more prone to error

 

[TensorBackhand]

Harimoto: Wang Chuqin is hard to beat!
Jang: Hold my beer...

uh yeah. Pretty much defeats the false narrative "nobody can beat China. Only Harimoto can"

It's much harder to win 5 matches in a row in a full tournament.

 

[Tony's Table Tennis]

compared to his seniors, WCQ only excels in 3rd & 5th ball attacks and is weaker in rallies. Furthermore this guy's FH and BH frame is much more chaotic thus in tense situation will be more prone to error

its not "prone to errors"
but he really have pro mode good shots and then amateur mode mistakes. it is the execution that is really not his level.
just look at all his body language on those poor execution shots. These mistakes do occur in 3rd or 5th ball too. This is a mental problem

People ask, how can WCQ loose 19 points on the trot. Doesn't he give a damn? and people laugh about LGY. IMO, WCQ's thin ice is very risky.

and here people are laughing about South Africa vs Japan too
but WCQ has quite a history of going down (19-0), which is worse than SA, because SA is not a WCQ level

 

[Tony's Table Tennis]

uh yeah. Pretty much defeats the false narrative "nobody can beat China. Only Harimoto can"

It's much harder to win 5 matches in a row in a full tournament.

so if Jang can't beat Fan, are you going to go and make a Harimoto banner and take a photo together with it and share on TTD???

 

[zeio]

At long last, JWJ at WTTC 2024 is the latest to join the exclusive club.

https://www.tabletennisdaily.com/fo...pionships-finals-busan-2024.32987/post-443425

KOR vs POL
JWJ 0-2 -> 3-2 M. Kubik

JWJ playing like crap in match 1 of round 1 in first WTTC in South Korea is totally unexpected.

https://www.tabletennisdaily.com/forum/topics/oshima-vs-harimoto-4-3.20062/post-257563

Not really. You don't need a counter game plan for that. If you've followed the scene long enough, you'd notice that South Korean players are among the streakiest, yet have produced many if not the most powerful upsets in memory. Many of them share one common trait - high risk, high reward all-out step-around. Notable players from other countries are Gatien at WTTC 1993, Schlager at WTTC 2003 and Aruna at World Cup 2014 and Rio Olympics. Fang Bo at WTTC 2015 is another. The catch here is the high demand on form and stamina. That's why you see these players deviate a lot. But when that condition is met, this tactical style is the most disruptive. Coupled with the intense pressure, it's very hard to deal with and recover from.

Now the problem is you can never be certain when it'll be coming ahead of time. In the same manner, the player who chooses to play like this will also find it hard to get started. Ito is the latest example.

 

[Tony's Table Tennis]

its time CNT looses
Ma Long shouldn't be there any more, but no one better can replace him at 3.

WCQ has his ups and downs, so he is very risky today at 5
Fan needs to take two and Ma Long needs to ensure it doesn't get to the 5th match.

Korea just needs 1 more, and then pressure on WCQ could break him
I'm not sure if Korea can do it, but CNT doesn't get to brittle too often and if the opportunity comes, the players must step up and take it.

 

[zeio]

uh yeah. Pretty much defeats the false narrative "nobody can beat China. Only Harimoto can"

It's much harder to win 5 matches in a row in a full tournament.

Ahem, no human can. You see, a player can only play and hence win a maximum of 2 matches.

Of course it's a false narrative, which is your own. Stop claiming what people have not said.

 

[Tony's Table Tennis]

This is where FZD is "solid" and WCQ is not.
at 6-6 in game 2, FZD execution was flawless, especially the last touch to give him 11-6
WCQ just can't match the earlier leaders in execution during pressure, he is way better than LGY, but is he the best for the future? well, that remains to be seen, but FZD, ML, ZJL, Ma Lin, WLQ etc were never so risky in their early 20s