Short review of Glayzer 09c

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My guess is that BTY wants to promote newer rubbers. No doubt, G09C has decent spin as I have played it both on forehand and backhand for 3 months. But I completely disagree with their measurement, T05 spin is monstrous, one of the strongest outside of the chinese rubbers.
Depends on technique. If you brush more than "hit through" I'm sure the tackier G09c will give more spin. Short game will probably be spinnier for most with a harder, tackier rubber as well.
I've used both on backhand and for me the Tenergy had a slight advantage in spin creation when looping but it wasn't by very much and I can easily see other players getting more spin out of the G09c.
 
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The problem with using your feeling to measure something is there are too many variables to take into account. You guys find Glayzer to be slow and not spinny whereas I find it's fast enough and spinny enough. So, whose feeling is correct? Wouldn’t it better to look at it objectively and see how the manufacturer intended it to be.
 
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Of course there is VAT!!!! In all EU and in most countries in Europe! Do not confuse people!
When you order inside of eu then there is no added vat, you pay what you pay. It's not like when you order from America or China where you pay an additional 24% to the post office to receive the package. It's not like prott.
 
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When you order inside of eu then there is no added vat, you pay what you pay. It's not like when you order from America or China where you pay an additional 24% to the post office to receive the package. It's not like prott.
You got it all wrong!!! When you buy form EU (as an end user, not as a merchant, there is difference there) the VAT is already in the price and you pay the VAT to the store. In order to understand this compare the prices of https://www.dandoy-sports.com/ (without VAT, for orders to countries outside EU) and https://en.dandoy-sports.eu (prices with Belgian VAT 21%). Other stores use the VAT of the country where the order is going to be send, TT11 for example (so it has 24% VAT, Greek VAT). Use a German VPN, and check the prices there and compare it to the "greek prices" you see (German VAT is 19%) .

When you buy outside from EU then you pay for a) The VAT b) the Import Tax and c) expenses for the importing (Customs). If the parcel's value is under 80-100USD then import tax is very low. The price is lower in the store as it doesn't have VAT in the price.
 
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Nah, same with vega Korea and X.

There's no vat when delivering within eu, careful, not Europe, European Union.
False. They are obliged to apply VAT according to the target country rate. And there was a screenshot, 45 eur Rasanter becomes 21% more expensive when Dutch rate (as in my case) is applied..
Use a German VPN
No need, selecting a different country in billing address would do the job.
 
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I respect everyone's choices on equipment, but just putting it out there that H3N Provincial (both BS and OS) is cheaper than the G09C and are more spinny and far more durable, and can be equal-ish in speed if you boost the H3
 
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You got it all wrong!!! When you buy form EU (as an end user, not as a merchant, there is difference there) the VAT is already in the price and you pay the VAT to the store. In order to understand this compare the prices of https://www.dandoy-sports.com/ (without VAT, for orders to countries outside EU) and https://en.dandoy-sports.eu (prices with Belgian VAT 21%). Other stores use the VAT of the country where the order is going to be send, TT11 for example (so it has 24% VAT, Greek VAT). Use a German VPN, and check the prices there and compare it to the "greek prices" you see (German VAT is 19%) .

When you buy outside from EU then you pay for a) The VAT b) the Import Tax and c) expenses for the importing (Customs). If the parcel's value is under 80-100USD then import tax is very low. The price is lower in the store as it doesn't have VAT in the price.
That's what I mean, but if you order from outside eu you pay even more.
 
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You got it all wrong!!! When you buy form EU (as an end user, not as a merchant, there is difference there) the VAT is already in the price and you pay the VAT to the store. In order to understand this compare the prices of https://www.dandoy-sports.com/ (without VAT, for orders to countries outside EU) and https://en.dandoy-sports.eu (prices with Belgian VAT 21%). Other stores use the VAT of the country where the order is going to be send, TT11 for example (so it has 24% VAT, Greek VAT). Use a German VPN, and check the prices there and compare it to the "greek prices" you see (German VAT is 19%) .

When you buy outside from EU then you pay for a) The VAT b) the Import Tax and c) expenses for the importing (Customs). If the parcel's value is under 80-100USD then import tax is very low. The price is lower in the store as it doesn't have VAT in the price.

On Glayzer it will apply as well
 
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Thank you for agreeing with me, because in the previous posts regarding VAT, you are misleading people.
Dude, if you order outside eu you pay extra vat to the post office. If you buy from eu, you pay whatever you pay and that's it. That's all I said, learn to read.
 
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BTY Europe lists prices already with VAT so it's 45 with VAT included.

TT11 lists their price without VAT, it will be added on checkout. No idea about USA, Canada, etc.

But it's funny when Europeans start this BS comparison like they never went to the checkout page 🤣
When visiting TT11 from Europe, VAT is included in the price directly.
 

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When visiting TT11 from Europe, VAT is included in the price directly.
If they remember your address in your account. For some reason it wasn't here yesterday so yeah indeed Rasanter were 45 EUR. Now it is only some pips for 45, all Rasanters are shown with VAT
 

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I would like to add a fly in the ointment. I played with two Glayzers and everything was fine, but after a certain time, an incomprehensible vibration appeared in the rubber itself. It felt as if one of the rubbers was not glued, although outwardly everything was ok. I decided to remove and re-glue the rubbers. When I removed them, I was very surprised :-( - the size of the removed rubber became 2 mm smaller (1 mm along the contour of the racket) than it was before!!! After re-gluing, the feeling of the rubber changed. The Glayzers became harder, less speed, less dwell time and spin. Also, last week a friend in the club complained to me about the same reason only with Tenergy 05 Hard. He raised his reduced rubber by 2 mm from the handle.
What can I say, now I no longer get the same pleasure from playing Glayzers. I had similar feelings with DHS Goldarс 8, which after 2 months of brilliant play became fast, wooden and without spin. Only with Glayzers this transition is not so abrupt. You can still play with rubber and in some ways it has even become easier, for example in receiving serves, but with everything else it has become sad. I am a little disappointed.
Judging by the reaction to the seamun of the old set that my friend gave me, this is not quite what I need. I'll try to pump them up with air as @Zwill advised. I found a container with a large lid where I can install a car valve. I'll do it in a few days and write back.
Another disadvantage is that the edges of the Glayzer crumble from the ball, you can see it in the photo. I play very carefully and there is no chance of my racket getting caught on the table. The rubber is very delicate.

PS Both rubbers were glued only with water-based glue 2 times, the booster was not used and shrinkage from using glue with LOC or booster is excluded.
 

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Your experience is very close to what a regular MX-P user encounters.

Interestingly, my disappointment in G09C was due to a different reason - losing tackiness after 2 months. My playstyle is about stable attacking via spin from mid-distance with moderate power, and the reduced tackiness instantly killed the enjoyment of G09C.
 
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