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Winter was supposed to loose to LEH?
Apparently it's too complex for you to process. For all the complaints you have about the ITTF WR not being accurate. It's been 3 consecutive upsets between these 2 across 3 years. What this means is that the ITTF WR is not the problem, it's either/both of these 2 that is/are not consistent.

World Cup 2025
WR47 LEH 1-3 WR51 Winter

WTT CT Rio de Janeiro 2024
WR40 LEH 2-3 WR61 Winter

WTT FEE Vila Nova de Gaia 2023
WR81 LEH 3-1 WR56 Winter
 
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Apparently it's too complex for you to process. For all the complaints you have about the ITTF WR not being accurate. It's been 3 consecutive upsets between these 2 across 3 years. What this means is that the ITTF WR is not the problem, it's either/both of these 2 that is/are not consistent.

World Cup 2025
WR47 LEH 1-3 WR51 Winter

WTT CT Rio de Janeiro 2024
WR40 LEH 2-3 WR61 Winter

WTT FEE Vila Nova de Gaia 2023
WR81 LEH 3-1 WR56 Winter
I think you the one having processing difficulties
Two players with 1-1 means, the 3rd time, either one can win and either one can loose.
if this surprises you... then you in the wrong sport. in fact you shouldn't even be in sports

I take back my suggestion that you should be in JNT coaching, because you would retire the whole team for loosing against a lower wr players... oh wait, you already done that as a teiba user, haha
 
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Apparently it's too complex for you to process. For all the complaints you have about the ITTF WR not being accurate. It's been 3 consecutive upsets between these 2 across 3 years. What this means is that the ITTF WR is not the problem, it's either/both of these 2 that is/are not consistent.

World Cup 2025
WR47 LEH 1-3 WR51 Winter

WTT CT Rio de Janeiro 2024
WR40 LEH 2-3 WR61 Winter

WTT FEE Vila Nova de Gaia 2023
WR81 LEH 3-1 WR56 Winter
Or maybe the ranking is just not precise enough to distinguish players that close together in level. This isn't pure mathematics and their results are consistent with just about any reasonable probability model based on such rankings.
 
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Maybe unkind of me but I relished every moment of Elbiali getting called on his illegal serve, having points taken away, then seeing him have his own dumb challenge lose against someone who actually knows how to serve legally.

It speaks volumes that he didn't challenge any of his own serve faults. I'm assuming he can of course. Still not sure how TTR works. But this specific match making me a believer lol
 
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Takeaway of World Cup 2025:
TTR aggravates what it's supposed to alleviate.


TTR: Escalate is the new mediate...
Not TTR or ITTF's fault players have been allowed to serve illegally for years. They should've been on notice as of recently to clean up their act. It's on the athlete to use their challenge or not.
 
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I think you the one having processing difficulties
Two players with 1-1 means, the 3rd time, either one can win and either one can loose.
if this surprises you... then you in the wrong sport. in fact you shouldn't even be in sports

I take back my suggestion that you should be in JNT coaching, because you would retire the whole team for loosing against a lower wr players... oh wait, you already done that as a teiba user, haha
Another unbelievable straw man. Can't even follow the logic of the argument at hand (let alone counter) and so create your own dumbed-down argument and proceed to defeat it.

As Shine suggested, go pick up a book on logical fallacies.
 
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Incredible how well Adi Sareen handled Wang Chuqin's serves.
Around 9-9 or deuce WCQ usually pulls out the very successful hook serve. Wonder why he didn't use such a potent weapon in his serving repetoire in this event. Must've forgotten about it.
 
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Another unbelievable straw man. Can't even follow the logic of the argument at hand (let alone counter) and so create your own dumbed-down argument and proceed to defeat it.

As Shine suggested, go pick up a book on logical fallacies.
haha

1 vs 1, and then based on your smarty pants logic, only 1 can win, not the other.
you really should not be in sports, even your presumed mathematics skills is in doubt.

and when you are caught with the wrong logic, you use insult once again.

it is clear, you only wish one to win, not the other. and if the wrong one wins, that is a failure and retirement?? lol
 
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Or maybe the ranking is just not precise enough to distinguish players that close together in level. This isn't pure mathematics and their results are consistent with just about any reasonable probability model based on such rankings.
precisely,
zeio is spending too much time on the internet and stuck with numbers.

40~60 world ranking is very interchangeable and anyone can win, especially the data shows they are 1-1 prior to the world cup.

If I take the avg of the 3 WR, then LEH is 56 vs Winter is also 56.
So to me, any one of the 2 can win. Not sure how difficult is to understand that....

World Cup 2025
WR47 LEH 1-3 WR51 Winter

WTT CT Rio de Janeiro 2024
WR40 LEH 2-3 WR61 Winter

WTT FEE Vila Nova de Gaia 2023
WR81 LEH 3-1 WR56 Winter


if we want to argue prior to the world cup
Winter wins marginally with 58.5 vs LEH's 60.5

end of the day, the better player won on the day.
 
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Around 9-9 or deuce WCQ usually pulls out the very successful hook serve. Wonder why he didn't use such a potent weapon in his serving repetoire in this event. Must've forgotten about it.
Last time he did that was a very long time ago. He has beaten a lot of people's faves here using simple pendulum serves only.

And for those raving about how a lower ranked player could easily receive WCQ serves, Which is it? Are his serves easy to receive or difficult to receive? I'm sure the narrative when he beats someone's star guy tomorrow will be "his serves are so difficult to receive."
 
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Last time he did that was a very long time ago. He has beaten a lot of people's faves here using simple pendulum serves only.

And for those raving about how a lower ranked player could easily receive WCQ serves, Which is it? Are his serves easy to receive or difficult to receive? I'm sure the narrative when he beats someone's star guy tomorrow will be "his serves are so difficult to receive."
Despite the differences between us over WCQ, there is no denying the fandom subculture at TTD is not any weaker than those Chinese fangirls. At least the latter are more consistent in their behavior and attitude.
 
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