United States Smash 2025, Las Vegas, 7/3-13

[TampaBayTableTennis]

Interesting TTR challenges from Walther - 2 x successful - ball hidden by Bardet's head

 

[NextLevel]

Interesting TTR challenges from Walther - 2 x successful - ball hidden by Bardet's head

If Duda had done this against WCQ at the World Cup, he may have won the match.

 

[NextLevel]

Bardet really leveled up his backhand, there were signs in the Ultimate League, but it is obvious in his matches here. But that forehand swing is just ridiculous in quality.

 

[piligrim]

If Duda had done this against WCQ at the World Cup, he may have won the match.

After first one WCQ would just change serve and does it

 

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After first one WCQ would just change serve and does it

It was match point and he didn't use it. If he had won it at match point, he would not have had to do it again lol.

 

[TableTennisDaily +]

Lin Gaoyuan Training | US Smash 2025​

 

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Lin Gaoyuan Training | US Smash 2025​

Didn't help lol...

 

[piligrim]

It was match point and he didn't use it. If he had won it at match point, he would not have had to do it again lol.

Let's say Duda did this and won. Duda himself wouldn't fully satisfied with this win.

 

[Sland]

Someone with more knowledge needs to answer that. I would imagine the host city is paying for most of it.

The word on the street is that they originally had a venue (nice one) that was separate from Orleans for tables 2, 3 and 4, but it fell through last second and they had to pivot into the temporary tent.

Obviously not an ideal situation, but I would not be so quick to judge wtt/organizers because we don't know what happened with the original deal and how much of it was their fault vs the venue overbooking or taking a more lucrative event, etc. They DID plan on something more professional with better conditions than what we are seeing now so can't knock them there.

 

[JackJohnson]

Interesting TTR challenges from Walther - 2 x successful - ball hidden by Bardet's head

When did they start implementing TTR at WTT events? Wasn’t it going to only be used at ITTF events such as WTTC and WC?

 

[NextLevel]

Let's say Duda did this and won. Duda himself wouldn't fully satisfied with this win.

So you mean Duda worked hard on making his serves legal so he could be mad at beating a player who used an illegal serve to beat him? Everyone has their own opinion for sure since we dont know what he would say. But you know mine. I am sure Rosskopf realized it later and taught his team to use those challenges. Germany are smart about such things.

 

[piligrim]

So you mean Duda worked hard on making his serves legal so he could be mad at beating a player who used an illegal serve to beat him? Everyone has their own opinion for sure since we dont know what he would say. But you know mine. I am sure Rosskopf realized it later and taught his team to use those challenges. Germany are smart about such things.

I mean if I won match because I simple used this challenge future I wouldn't fully satisfy with this win and wouldn't feel I won because I played better

 

[turbozed]

Great effort by Goda. Really had SYS flustered for most of the match. It's always a joy to watch Goda compete. Girl wears her heart on her sleeve, has the most colorful reactions (none negative), and never gives up on herself. She's got a mentality that I'm sure many coaches would love all of their young players to have.

 

[turbozed]

I mean if I won match because I simple used this challenge future I wouldn't fully satisfy with this win and wouldn't feel I won because I played better

That's the difference between us casual players and pros. We don't know what it feels like to lose and have food taken from our mouths because some other dude was breaking the rules and maybe getting an advantage.

I also don't think a pro really believes that a couple of points won by TTR makes them doubt that their victory was unjustified. They already have a belief (and almost have to) that they are skilled enough to beat anyone. And they already had to win 30+ points at least in different ways.

 

[zeio]

So you mean Duda worked hard on making his serves legal so he could be mad at beating a player who used an illegal serve to beat him? Everyone has their own opinion for sure since we dont know what he would say. But you know mine. I am sure Rosskopf realized it later and taught his team to use those challenges. Germany are smart about such things.

I don't know. Germany is known as 德國/Virtuous Country in Chinese, after the pronunciation of Deutsch. LOL Duda earned many Chinese fans (notwithstanding many of them were WCQ haters) on that day.

I remember Boll once pointed out an edge ball on match point and when asked why, he said it didn't feel right to win like that.

 

[NextLevel]

I don't know. Germany is known as 德國/Virtuous Country in Chinese, after the pronunciation of Deutsch. LOL Duda earned many Chinese fans (notwithstanding many of them were WCQ haters) on that day.

I remember Boll once pointed out an edge ball on match point and when asked why, he said it didn't feel right to win like that.

Cheating is very different from enforcing the rules. And Duda is very meticulous about keeping his serves legal. He has one of thr rarest things you will see in table tennis. A high toss reverse pendulum serve. Anyone who goes through the trouble to develop that cares about following the rules.

 

[NextLevel]

Sad to see Shnozuka catching LHJ disease. Not a good sign for his future.

 

[NextLevel]

Uda vs Lebrun. Surpass Check!

 

[zeio]

Cheating is very different from enforcing the rules. And Duda is very meticulous about keeping his serves legal. He has one of thr rarest things you will see in table tennis. A high toss reverse pendulum serve. Anyone who goes through the trouble to develop that cares about following the rules.

In principle, a player can't request TTR unless the umpire has made a call but somehow that was not the case for World Cup 2025, and needless to say, things got ugly and personal quickly.

In the end, Duda observed the rule (knowingly or not), lost the match, and earned respect.

 

[zeio]

Sad to see Shnozuka catching LHJ disease. Not a good sign for his future.

If not for the herniated disc in 2023 (in second place on the selection standing), Shinozuka could've been the other MS player for Paris 2024.