JTTA Selection Trial for ATTC 2026 and WTTC Continental Stage 2027, 5/26-27

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Thread title changed from "Ito: I'm not sure I will play for another 4 years" to rub it in.

 

[zeio]

WTT SCT London 2025
WS F
Harimoto (1) 4-3 Hayata (6) (-5, -6, 8, 4, 6, -6, 9)

Harimoto handled the point at 9:9 of G7 differently from the past. She hit to Hayata's BH (1), middle (2) and FH (3) with her BH and FH to "force" a weak return without "forcing" it. She used to hit 2 of those 3 points and Hayata would always get back the shot.

And how many times has it been for Hayata now, especially in 2025? Always leading 2 games and subsequently losing.

Here's one of those points from WTT CS Yokohama 2025.

FULL MATCH | Miwa Harimoto vs Hina Hayata | WS R16 | #WTTYokohama 2025
https://youtu.be/724TF_A1MEE?t=2351

 

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Player comments on the final. It once again highlights the importance of calling a TO to break the flow, whether you think it helps or not. Just use it and Murphy's law may kick in.

張本美和が早田ひなとの接戦制し優勝！「負ける寸前で心が折れそうだった」WTTスターコンテンダー・ロンドン2025
https://www.olympics.com/ja/news/ta...er-london-2025-finals-harimoto-hayata-results

試合は第1ゲームから積極的かつスピードのある攻撃を見せた早田がリードし、2ゲームを連取（5-11、6-11）した。

「点数的にはまだ0-2だったんですけど、気持ちとしては、もう負ける寸前で心が折れそうになっていた」という張本は、第3ゲーム序盤でタイムアウト。「負けてもいいから、もうちょっと自分のプレーをして終わりたい」と切り替え、再び台に向かった。

...

張本美和、意味のある勝利​

世界ランキング7位で、現在日本女子トップに立つ張本の決勝の相手は、これまで何度も負けてきた早田だった。重なる敗北ゆえに、早田との試合は苦手意識にもつながっていた。

「以前は早田選手と当たるとなると、試合する前から弱気になって、自分に負けているのがいつもだった」とこれまでの自分を張本は認める。しかし、「今日はあんまりなかった」と続ける。

だが、試合はゲームカウント0-2と大きくリードされてスタートした。第3ゲーム序盤で張本がタイムアウトを取った際にも、何を見つめるでもなく開かれた張本の目やその表情からは何の意思も感じられず、ただ茫然としているように見えた。

「正直『もう終わった』という気持ちだったので、タイムアウトのとき何も考えてなくて。1分休んで、1分でも多く会場にいたい（と思った）。0対4で負けてしまうくらいの内容だったので…」

「どうしようという気持ちで1分間いたんですけど、いざ台にまた立ってプレーしてみたら、ちょっと間を置いたからか、少し相手もミスが出て。行けるかもとは思ってないですけど、そのゲームを取れて1ゲーム長くできるなっていう気持ちでした」

「早田選手は国内の大会、パリ（オリンピックの代表）選考会でもたくさん対戦をして、自分のものは全部知られているのに、自分が（早田選手を）知れていないというか…。いつも試合して『やっぱり強いな』と思ってしまっている（ところがある）。リードしていても気持ちの部分で押されていると感じていたので、そこが課題でした。もちろん技術、戦術にまだ足りないものもありますけど、気持ちの部分がいつも弱気になってしまっていました」

「今日は少しいつもよりは良かったかと思います」と張本は胸を張った。

早田ひな「悔しい気持ちもと、やりきった気持ち」​

早田は試合後、「悔しい気持ちもあるんですけど、やりきった気持ちもあります」と戦いを振り返り、自身の反省点をあげつつ張本のプレーを称えた。

「終始、駆け引きや勝負を楽しめました。最後、思い切っていけなかったところとか、相手の方がその精度が高かったりとかはあったかもしれないんですけど、自分としては悪い試合ではなかったと思うので、今日はやりきったなっていう感じです」

「（ゲームカウント）0-2で、どっちかというと簡単に点数を取っていたので、そこから相手から何かしら返ってくると思いました。そのときにちょっと反応が遅れたりとか、ちょとした差だったりとか（があった）」

「途中迷いが出てしまったりとか、プレーの部分でもちょっと単調になってしまったりとか、ついていくだけになってしまったところがあったので、それは相手が上手い部分でもあると思います」

「3ゲーム取られてから『こうかもな』と思い始めたんですけど、1ゲーム、2ゲーム（を返された）ぐらいで勢いを止めることができれば、常に負けない選手であり、勝ち続けられる選手になれるのかなと思う。また頑張りたいです」と前を向いた。

Hayata took the lead from the 1st game, displaying aggressive and speedy attacks, and won 2 straight games (5-11, 6-11).

"Even though the score was only 0-2, but mentally, I was on the verge of losing and I was about to give up," Harimoto said, calling a timeout early in the 3rd game. "I don't mind losing, I just want to play my own game a little more and finish," she said, returning to the table.

...

Harimoto Miwa, a Meaningful Victory​

Ranked 7th in the world and currently the top Japanese women's player, Harimoto's opponent in the final was Hayata, a player she has lost to many times before. These losses have led to a sense of inferiority when playing against Hayata.

"In the past, whenever I faced Hayata, I would get nervous before the match and end up losing to myself," Harimoto admitted. However, she continued, "That wasn't the case today."

However, she started the match trailing 0-2. Even when Harimoto took a timeout early in the 3rd game, her eyes were wide open, staring blankly at nothing, and her expression gave off no sense of determination; she simply looked dazed.

"Honestly, I felt like it was all over, so I wasn't thinking about anything during the timeout. I just wanted to rest for a minute and stay in the venue for as long as possible. It looked like I was going to lose 0-4..."

"I was unsure what to do for that minute, but when I got back on the table and played, my opponent made a few mistakes, probably because I'd taken a break. I didn't think I could win, but I felt like I could win that game and extend it by another game."

"I've played against Hayata many times in domestic tournaments and the Paris (Olympic) trials, and she knows all about my skills, but I feel like I don't know her very well... I always end up thinking, 'She's really strong, after all.' Even when I was leading, I felt like she was pushing me back emotionally, so that was my challenge. Of course, I still have a lot to improve on my technique and tactics, but I was always losing my nerve."

"I think I was a little better than usual today," Harimoto said proudly.

Hana Hayata: "I feel frustrated, but also like I gave it my all."​

After the match, Hayata reflected on the match, saying, "I feel frustrated, but I also feel like I gave it my all." She praised Harimoto's play while highlighting her own areas for improvement.

"I enjoyed the tactics and the match from start to finish. There were times towards the end when I wasn't bold enough, and my opponent may have been more precise, but I don't think it was a bad match, so I feel like I gave it my all today."

"I was up 0-2 and was scoring fairly easily, so I thought my opponent would come back with something. My reactions were a little slow, and there were a few differences."

"I started to get a little lost, and my play became a little monotonous. I was just going along with it, so I think that was part of my opponent's skill."

"After losing 3 games, I started to think, 'Maybe this is it,' but if I can stop her momentum in 1 or 2 games, I think I can become a player who never loses and can keep winning. I want to do my best again," she said, looking ahead.

 

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Tomokazu's reaction upon Miwa's getting match point and ultimately the win says it all.

美和拿到赛点和赢下比赛时在训练场的本子 http://xhslink.com/o/54kuzDuP2eP

 

[Jafar]

Thread title changed from "Ito: I'm not sure I will play for another 4 years" to rub it in.

After the WS R32 in London, leaving the title as it was would have rubbed it in more

 

[NextLevel]

After the WS R32 in London, leaving the title as it was would have rubbed it in more

Nah, he just makes it clear he enjoys trolling. He thinks calling someone stupid is the same thing as the person saying they (the person) or what they did is stupid. He can't tell the difference.

 

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Harimoto on 3-2 Hirano, highlighting the importance of TTQ.

平野美宇との日本人対決を制した張本美和が準々決勝でも勝利、橋本帆乃香、早田ひなとともにベスト4入り　WTTスターコンテンダー・ロンドン2025
https://www.olympics.com/ja/news/wt...on-2025-day5-wrap-up-harimoto-miwa-hirano-miu

張本美和vs平野美宇はフルゲームの末に張本に軍配「攻める気持ちを大事にした」​

この日の張本にとって重要な勝利となったのは、3回戦での平野との一戦。

日本人同士の対戦の場合、ベンチにはコーチが入らず、選手それぞれが1人で試合に向かう。試合は平野が第1、3ゲーム、張本が第2、4ゲームをとって最終5ゲームまでもつれ込む展開となった。

張本は「同士討ちでベンチ（コーチ）もなく、平野選手は特に同じチームで練習しているので、自分も平野選手のことわかってる分、平野選手も自分のことをよく知っているので、試合の中での戦術転換が大事になってくる」と試合に臨み、その中でも意識したのは「攻める気持ち」だった。

しかし、その気持ちが空回りする場面も。「3ゲーム目は9-6でリードしているところで焦ってしまうぐらいの攻めの姿勢を作ってしまったので、自分にミスが出たりとか、逆に相手にそれを利用されたりっていうのがあった」と、リードしつつも逆転された3ゲームを振り返る。だが、うまく切り替えて第4ゲームは11-1。「最終ゲームは攻める気持ちを持ちつつ、でも落ち着いて攻めるというか、攻めすぎないようにした」と勝利につながった要因を語った。

一方、平野は「内容は結構良かったんですけど、最後1点を取る力、1ゲームを取る力が少し足りなかった」と反省。対戦にあたり、「作戦はしっかりと練ることができ、100に近いくらい実行できた」が、「最後、勝つかもというときの実行力がちょっと足りないなと思います」と振り返った。

Harimoto Miwa vs. Hirano Miu: Harimoto Wins After a Five Gamer "I Focused on My Attack"​

Harimoto's key victory of the day was her 3rd-round match against Hirano.

In matches between Japanese players, there are no coaches on the bench, and each player plays alone. Hirano won the 1st and 3rd games, while Harimoto won the 2nd and 4th, resulting in a close match down to the final 5th game.

Harimoto said, "It was a friendly match, so there was no bench (coach). Hirano especially practices on the same team, so I know Hirano well, and Hirano knows me well, so it was important to change my tactics during the match." Her focus was on an "attacking mentality."

However, there were times when that mentality backfired. "In the 3rd game, I was leading 9-6, but I got too anxious and took an aggressive stance, which led to me making mistakes, and my opponent took advantage of that," she said, reflecting on the 3rd game in which she was overtaken despite leading. However, she managed to switch gears and take the 4th game 11:1. "In the final game, I had the desire to attack, but I stayed calm and tried not to attack too much," she said, explaining the key to her victory.

On the other hand, Hirano reflected, "The content was pretty good, but I lacked the strength to score that last point and win that last game." Looking ahead to the match, she said, "I was able to plan my strategy well and execute it nearly perfectly," but added, "I think I lacked the execution power to win when it seemed like we might win."

 

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WTT CS Montpellier 2025
Hayata 1-3 WYD (12, -7, -4, -6)

早田希娜VS王艺迪
https://tieba.baidu.com/p/10169002827
诠释手法尽头 大迪打着打着想起来这不是大赛
IP属地:浙江来自iPhone客户端297楼2025-10-29 22:00回复
(As the match progressed, Big Di realized this wasn't a major tournament)

老弗（奶爸版） 我觉得两边心态是这样的
老迪觉得反正几个姐妹都要走了，她第一局被翻，这次赢不赢也就这样了，导致二三局完全不慌，输了一起走不丢人，赢了的话在现在的情况下简直挣大脸了。
早田觉得你们应该都要回去备战全运会吧，那我必须把握机会拼下来，结果一急越打越没有。二三局几乎不会调节旋转了，下降期还在猛猛发死力，失误躲得离谱
IP属地:浙江来自Android客户端304楼2025-10-29 22:02回复
(I think the mentality on both sides was like this:
Old Di felt that since her teammates were all leaving anyway, and she got reversed in the first game, it didn't really matter whether she won or lost this time. This led to her being completely unconcerned in the second and third games. Losing and leaving together wasn't shameful, and winning would be a huge honor in the current situation.
Hayata thought that since all of you should be going back to prepare for the National Games, she had to seize the opportunity and fight for it. As a result, she got anxious and played worse and worse. In the second and third games, she almost couldn't adjust her spin, and kept on powering through her shots on the descent, making an absurd amount of mistakes)

向鹏（不愿释怀版） 以后别说老迪蠢了，早田第三局这几个发球出台真的更蠢
IP属地:上海来自Android客户端315楼2025-10-29 22:04收起回复
(Don't call Old Di stupid anymore; Hayata's multiple serves drifting long in the third game was even stupider)
星期日不上发条🍡: 4:4发两个出台球被拉s直通4:11
2025-10-29 22:05回复
(4:4, two serves drifted long and got loopkilled, then straight to 4:11)

瞅你咋地 本应该3：0的球，第一局后面很奇怪
IP属地:吉林来自Android客户端357楼2025-10-29 22:12回复
(This should have been a 3-0 match, but things got weird towards the end of the first game)

LIVE! | WTT Champions Montpellier 2025 | Day 2 | Session 1
https://youtu.be/UZIcLRg1550?t=7365

 

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Zeng Jian on 3-2 Ito at WTT SCT London 2025.

Singapore’s Zeng Jian stuns world No. 9 Mima Ito at World Table Tennis Star Contender
https://www.straitstimes.com/sport/...ld-no-9-mima-ito-at-wtt-star-contender-london
Zeng told The Straits Times: “I’m very happy because this is a major breakthrough for me and though she created a lot of problems for me, I managed to keep up with her variety and tempo during the start of the rallies, and hang on for the win.”

The 28-year-old also recalled how she had beaten Ito in their first encounter at the last 16 of the 2016 Slovenia Open, before losing their next five meetings as the Japanese went on to achieve success. Former teenage prodigy Ito, who is now 25, won mixed doubles gold, women’s team silver and singles bronze at the Tokyo Olympics in 2021.

Zeng said: “It has been almost 10 years since I last beat her, and in this decade, she has remained at the top while there is a gulf in standard between our quality and temperament as she became an Olympic champion and a world-class athlete.

“So, this win is a very important boost for me and I’m thankful to have coach (Jing Junhong) by my side and trusting me, that we didn’t give up when I was at some low points of my career.”

https://www.tabletennisdaily.com/fo...star-contender-october-2025.35858/post-547140

WS R32
Zeng Jian 3-2 Ito (-6, 10, -5, 12, 9)
The bronze medal at ATTTC 2025 is already a pretty big boost on team morale. This win couldn't have come at a better time.

https://www.tabletennisdaily.com/fo...ould-have-won-the-match-781.35128/post-547263

Getting pinned down to the BH by the long serve, the only thing Ito could attempt is the FH step-around, which is either make (winner) or break (FH wide open).

Same deal on Ito's serves, returns like long pushes to her BH from the other side severely limit her options. As long as the shots are deep enough, then she can't get in the first strong attacks on the 3rd or 5th shots and is bound to miss.

 

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早田ひな 世界5位の中国・王芸迪に敗北。アジア大会以来3度目の勝利ならず【卓球 WTTモンペリエ】
https://www.tv-tokyo.co.jp/tabletennis/news/2025/10/040690.html
https://news.yahoo.co.jp/articles/bc5d79513827151f6874daaa8984f111e61b061a/comments
yad********
10時間前
早田選手VS王芸迪選手は、いつもデュースや接戦のラリーは見せて下さるのですが、最後は敗退。
王芸迪選手もカットマン対策をきちんとしてきて、橋本選手に勝利をする実力を身に付けて来たので、更に強くなったと思います。
黄金世代の選手は、現在伸びしろが厳しいようなので、そろそろ世代交代でもいいかなと思いますね。
後輩に期待したいと思います。
(Hayata vs Wang Yidi always showed us deuces and close rallies, but ultimately lost.
Wang Yidi has also been working hard to counter choppers and has acquired the skills to beat Hashimoto, so I think she's gotten even stronger.
The current golden generation of players seems to have limited room for improvement, so I think it's time for a generational change.
I look forward to seeing what the next generation can do.)
36 concur, 0 ic, 18 hmm

tomochin1969
19時間前
tomochin1969
早田選手お疲れ様でした。
1ゲーム目逆転負けから､中国ベンチカツ入れられてギアを上げてきましたね。これ以上日本選手に負けたら､中国TOPの序列も下がり､2軍落ちもありえるさので､王芸選手も必死ですね。順当にいけば､次は張本選手とQFでの対戦｡大籐vs橋本選手の同士討ちは残念ですが､勝者がSF進出､張本選手が勝ち上がるとまたSFでの同士討ちとなりますが､とにかく､日本選手に決勝進出を期待します｡そして､反対の山から勝ち上がってくるであろう朱雨玲選手との決勝になると思いますが､優勝の可能性も十分にあります｡張本選手､大籐選手､橋本選手は最終日まで勝ち上がって卓球ファンを楽しませて下さい｡
(Good job, Hayata!
After losing the 1st game, China's bench has really stepped it up. Any further losses to Japanese players could push her down the top Chinese echelon and even send her to the second string, so Wang Yi is desperate. If things go as planned, she'll next face Harimoto in the quarterfinals. It's unfortunate that Odo vs Hashimoto will face off against each other, but the winner will advance to the semifinals. If Harimoto advances, they'll face off against each other again in the semifinals. Regardless, I'm hoping the Japanese player makes it to the final. And then, I think she'll face Zhu Yuling, who will likely come up from the other side of the field, and she has a good chance of winning. I hope Harimoto, Odo, and Hashimoto continue to advance until the final day and entertain table tennis fans.)
60 concur, 11 ic, 49 hmm

vyv********
12時間前
早田もこれ以上の成長は無理、孫や王慢ならいざ知らず王芸に勝てなくなったら代表は無理、伊藤も同じ但し指導者の問題で改善するなら?、橋本を参考にするか又中国は日本選手の弱点を見つければ徹底的に国として突いてくる、日本も同じ事できないのか、WTTの組み合わせも日本選手を上位阻止としか思えません、張本はこれ以上成長出来ないのかな
(Hayata can't improve any further. I don't know about Sun or Wang Man, but if she can't beat Wang Yi, she's out of the running for the national team. The same goes for Ito. But what if she can improve due to coaching issues? Perhaps Hashimoto should take a page from her. Also, China, once it finds a weakness in a Japanese player, will thoroughly attack it as a nation. Can't Japan do the same? The WTT pairings seem to be designed to prevent Japanese players from reaching the top. I wonder if Harimoto can't improve any further)
21 concur, 3 ic, 57 hmm

zew********
19時間前
うーん残念。
自分のバックハンドが信じられなくて、無理矢理回り込んでミスの連発。自爆でしたね。
バックハンドで打ち抜けなくなってるのは分かるけど、それでもバックハンドで何か打開策を見つけないと厳しいですね。
色々試して何か見つけて欲しいものです。
お疲れ様でした。
(Hmm, that's disappointing.
She didn't trust her BH, so she forced a step-around and made a series of mistakes. It was self-destruction.
I understand that she's no longer able to hit the ball through with her BH, but unless she finds a solution to her BH, it's going to be tough.
I hope she tries various things and finds something.
Thank you for your hard work.)
34 concur, 6 ic, 57 hmm

jyy********
12時間前
スポーツもただ強ければいいのではなく、強くて紳士淑女であってこそ多くのファンに愛される。
人格的に残念な面が見えてしまった方々はどんな種目であれ多くのファンは去って行く。野球では沖縄出身のＩ投手、相撲はモンゴル出身のH横綱もその類いだろう。卓球では引退後のHさんも不倫でかなり人気を落とした。現役のIM選手はインタヴューの発言で、HH選手はタイムアウトの一件で残念な面が見えてしまった。いずれも友達なら許せる範囲のことだがヒーローやヒロインにはなれない。こういうことに時効はない。
(In sports, it's not enough to just be strong; you need to be both a strong gentleman and a lady to be loved by many fans.
When a player's character is revealed to be flawed, many fans leave, regardless of the sport. In baseball, pitcher I from Okinawa and sumo wrestler H from Mongolia are examples of this. In table tennis, retired player H also lost a lot of popularity due to an affair. Current player IM's flaws were revealed through comments made in an interview, and player HH's flaws were revealed through the timeout incident. In both cases, friends can forgive these things, but they don't make you a hero or heroine. There's no statute of limitations on such things.)
70 concur, 1 ic, 33 hmm

rak********
19時間前
日本選手が急成長して絶頂期に向かっている時に何回か負けても、気づけば2勝15敗とかになってるのが中国の強さだね。
(Even if they lose a few times when Japanese players are rapidly improving and approaching their peak, China's strength is that before you know it, they're back to 2 wins and 15 losses.)
95 concur, 5 ic, 5 hmm

wcf*****
19時間前
人気トップなんだ

黄金世代の中では最近はのんびりしてるけど平野が一番好きだけどね
(The most popular indeed

Of the Golden Generation, Hirano has been taking it easy lately, but I like her the most.)
193 concur, 6 ic, 24 hmm
m68*****
11時間前
彼女の「出しゃばらず」「控えめな」そんな性格に、とても好感を覚えますね¨がんばれ美宇ちゃん！
(I really like her "unassuming" and "modest" personality. Keep it up, Miu-chan!)
18 concur, 1 ic, 0 hmm

qmf********
21時間前
人気トップの早田ひな選手は、推薦出場なんですね,,,
手首の状態もよさそうだし復調するね,,,
でも勝たなきゃね,,,
ラウンド32で敗戦だと、WRポイント少しか、残念だけどジャンプアップは無いね。
(The most popular player, Hayata Hina, is participating on recommendation...
Her wrist seems to be in good condition, so I'm sure she'll recover...
But she needs to win...
If she loses in the round of 32, she'll only lose a few WR points, but unfortunately, she won't get a jump up.)
46 concur, 5 ic, 60 hmm

xog********
20時間前
早田は、予想通りの敗退です。日本選手には勝てるけど、世界ランク10位以内にはまず勝てません
(Hayata's defeat was as expected. She can beat Japanese players, but she's unlikely to beat players ranked in the top 10 in the world)
150 concur, 4 ic, 25 hmm

mik********
12時間前
王芸くらいには勝てなくては他の中国選手にはお手上げしかない。ロス五輪は後輩に道を譲ることになりそうだ。
(Unless she can beat Wang Yi, other Chinese players are out of her league. It looks like she'll have to give way to her kouhai at the Los Angeles Olympics.)
44 concur, 0 ic, 16 hmm

mik********
19時間前
えっ、人気トップなんですか？
(Huh, is she the most popular?)
161 concur, 3 ic, 19 hmm

nhq********
19時間前
王選手、ナイスゲーム。
(Nice match, player Wang)
114 concur, 1 ic, 17 hmm

 

[zeio]

平野美宇、世界ツアー先ロンドンでも「推し活」ハローキティとの２ショットで「一生の推し」
https://www.nikkansports.com/sports/news/202510300000466.html
https://news.yahoo.co.jp/articles/663bd390e074a8f84a62c6c6791cac1b7752033b/comments
pen********
3時間前
卓球の女子選手がSNSに上げた内容からのコタツ記事をそのままネット記事にして閲覧数を稼ぐのも、もうそろそろ「店じまいの頃合い」じゃないかな？

もともと卓球の界隈においては、卓球に直接関係の無い内容の記事は、どちらかと言えば敬遠される傾向が強かった。

そこへ、さらに８月のチャンピオンズ横浜の張本美和vs早田ひなの対戦があってからというもの、お互いのファン同士がいがみ合う修羅場が形成されやすくなってしまい、マスコミ各社が余計な記事を粗製乱造すれば「選手たち本人が被害を被る」ような状況になっている。

こうしたコタツ記事の「最後の砦」とも言えるのが、今回のような平野美宇選手のSNSからの記事だが…もう止めてあげてほしいものだ。

平野選手はサンリオがスポンサーなので、ハローキティ関連のネタをSNSに上げるのは仕事の一環なのだし、いちいちネット記事に上げたりせず、そっとしておいてあげてほしい。
(Isn't it about time to "close up shop" on the practice of turning kotatsu articles based on social media posts by female table tennis players into online articles to garner views?

In the table tennis community, articles not directly related to table tennis have tended to be shunned.

Furthermore, since the Champions Yokohama match between Harimoto Miwa and Hayata Hina in August, it's become increasingly common for fans of both teams to feud, leading to a situation where media outlets churning out unnecessary articles end up "harming the players themselves."

The "last bastion" of these kotatsu articles is articles like this one, based on Hirano Miu's social media posts... but I wish they'd stop.

Since Hirano is sponsored by Sanrio, posting Hello Kitty-related content on social media is part of her job, so I hope they leave her alone and don't post it online every time.)
3 concur, 0 ic, 3 hmm

 

[zeio]

WTT CS Montpellier 2025
WS R32
Odo (8) 2-3 Zeng Jian (8, -9, -10, 10, -2)

曾尖把大藤干掉了 桥本夺冠有希望吗。。。 (Zeng Jian defeated Odo. Does Hashimoto have a chance to win the title?)
https://tieba.baidu.com/p/10170013806
bsddyhjsnz 大藤是真水啊，一个逆旋转吃到饱，相持也打不过闭关修炼，感觉就修炼了那么几个衔接和固定套路，一旦人家变一变，他就不会了，最后一局那个大跳水。本来之前还担心接下来1600分桥本不参加，冠军赛限四不会又打不了了吧？结果早田和大腾都一轮游了。还好一点。这站如果桥本多拿点分，就更保险了。
桥本那个小区4/4区应该没什么问题 半决赛就看是打美合还是牛迪了，如果牛迪能把小盒干掉。说实话，我觉得半决赛也有赢的希望。之前赢过两次。上一次中国大满贯在t2那个场子太小了，不利于削球的跑动，而且他才输过，肯定心里有准备吧。如果真能进决赛，说实话，上半区不管是谁出来，大概率是朱雨玲，也打不过。这么看，真有希望夺冠也算是机会比较大的了。
不过从上次北满赢了桥本之后，我就觉得牛迪的状态很好，她和sys打的时候很强势，速度快相持好。感觉赢小盒应该没什么问题，就是看这一次第一次打bo7的桥本怎么样了，我觉得牛迪夺冠的概率也挺大，如果牛迪赢了桥本，我感觉他打朱雨玲应该没什么问题。
IP属地:湖南来自Android客户端1楼2025-10-30 06:35回复
(Odo is really weak, eating the reverse pendulum to death, and also couldn't keep up in rallies. Training in seclusion [TL's note: skipping SCT London 2025], it seems she's only mastered a few transitions and set plays; once the opponent varied a bit, she was lost. Her dramatic dive in the last game was a prime example. I was worried that Hashimoto wouldn't be participating in the 1600-point tournaments [CS Frankfurt 2025 and SCT Muscat 2025], and that she might miss out on the 4-per-NER CS again. But both Hayata and Odo were eliminated in the first round, which is a bit better. If Hashimoto gets more points in this tournament, it'll be more secure.
Hashimoto should have no problem in her quarter. The semifinals depend on whether she faces Miwa or Cow [strong/amazing] Di. If Cow Di can beat Little Carton, honestly, I think she has a shot to win the semifinals. She's won twice before. Last time at the China Smash, the T2 court was too small, which wasn't good for her defensive style, and she had just lost, so she must have been prepared. If she really makes it to the final, honestly, whoever comes out of the upper half of the draw, it's highly likely to be Zhu Yuling, and she probably won't be able to beat her. So, it seems like she has a pretty good chance of winning the title. However, ever since beating Hashimoto last time at China Smash, I've felt that Cow Di is in great form. She was very strong when she played against SYS, fast and good in rallies. I feel that beating Little Carton shouldn't be a problem. It just depends on how she performs in her first best-of-7 match against Hashimoto. I think Cow Di has a pretty high chance of winning the title. If Cow Di beats Hashimoto, I feel that she should have no problem beating Zhu Yuling.)

LGTF 大藤就高光了那一次，当然也是在蒙彼利埃，去年夺冠，以为是黑马，结果昙花一现，这次居然能一轮游，她要上奥运单打，估计都打不到国乒面前，现在外战最稳的还是桥本，上下限都高，除了赢不了国乒俩仨主力，日本俩三个，其他的都有希望赢。
IP属地:黑龙江来自iPhone客户端4楼2025-10-30 06:55收起回复
(Odo's highlight was only once, in Montpellier, where she won the title last year and was considered a dark horse, but it turned out to be a flash in the pan. This time, she was eliminated in the first round. If she wants to compete in the Olympic singles, she probably won't even be able to stand in front of the CNT. Right now, the most consistent player in foreign wars is still Hashimoto, with a high ceiling and a low floor. Except for the two or three main players of CNT and two or three of JNT, she has a chance to beat everyone else.)
石洵瑶（迷妹版）: 大藤世乒赛还挺稳的，单打八强，混双决赛，就女双一号种子失误了
2025-10-30 11:27回复
(Odo played quite consistently at WTTC, reaching the quarterfinals in singles and the final in mixed doubles, except for the mistake as the top seed in women's doubles)
bsddyhjsnz: 回复 石洵瑶（迷妹版） :混双确实打的好，没话说，但是大疼一疼，这一年签水到爆好吗？一堆的八强，175分。你看美合还有桥本的签被针对成啥样了，美合我记得上一站啥比赛第一轮打韩赢，第二轮打温特。这签真的不水了吧？而且今年也打了很多次削球，多哈打了金琴英，然后每次都是绝对主力的小区，就连早田都要打诚信同，伊藤只用打二宝
2025-10-30 14:45回复
(She played exceptionally well the mixed doubles, no doubt about it, but let's be honest, the draw this year has been incredibly weak. A bunch of QF, 175 points. Look at how targeted Miwa and Hashimoto's draws were. I remember Miwa faced Han Ying in the first round and Winter in the second round of some tournament last time. This draw is really not weak, is it? And this year she's faced many defensive players, including KKM in Doha, and every time she was in the quarter of main players. Even Hayata had to play against CXT, and Ito only had to play against Second Treasure [WYD].)

白天蓝云飞 桥本前四应该稳了，但是半决赛看打大迪还是美和，如果打美和大概率输，打大迪的话，应该五五开。毕竟上次刚输了，这次肯定会有所准备，而且上次输大迪那次，第三局也是拿到局点了的，只是被逆转了，而且上次二号桌宽度不够，限制了桥本的发挥，这次都在一号桌，关注度极高，大迪在重压之下很容易发挥失常。所以桥本还是很有机会进决赛的。如果进了决赛，不管是打斯佐科斯，还是朱雨玲陈熠，胜算都是很大的。
IP属地:四川来自Android客户端11楼2025-10-30 08:21收起回复
(Hashimoto should be a shoo-in for the top four, but the semifinals depend on whether she faces Big Di or Miwa. She'll likely lose to Miwa, but against Big Di, it's probably 50/50. After all, she just lost last time, so she'll definitely be better prepared this time. And last time she lost to Big Di, she had game point in the third game but was reversed. Also, last time T2 wasn't wide enough, limiting Hashimoto's performance. This time, everyone's on T1, with extremely high attention, and Big Di could easily underperform under that pressure. Therefore, Hashimoto still has a good chance of reaching the final. If she does reach the final, her chances of winning are very high, whether she faces Szocs, Zhu Yuling, or Chen Yi.)

nbcsest 大藤就是日本女队这几年来最差的主力没有之一，到目前一个主力都没赢过就不多说了（没记错的话连决胜局都没打到过），输非中国队的其他外协次数也是最多的，好像已经输了11次了，不算桥本的话，其他按日本10月NT名单成员分别是：美和4次，伊藤5次，早田6次，长崎3次
IP属地:江苏来自iPhone客户端16楼2025-10-30 08:41收起回复
(Odo is arguably the worst main player on the JPN WT in recent years. She hasn't won against any of the main players so far (if I remember correctly, she hasn't even reached the final game). She also has the most losses to non-CNT players, I think she's lost 11 times already. Excluding Hashimoto, the other members on the October JNT roster are: Miwa 4 times, Ito 5 times, Hayata 6 times, and Nagasaki 3 times.)
开心果苹果脸: 跟蒯曼决胜局过。
2025-10-30 11:13回复
(She's played the final game against KM.)

MiNiMiJi 蒙彼利埃不相信预测 看第一轮桥本的状态还是挺麻的 失误多 跑动跟她自己比慢了 进攻状态也很碎
IP属地:湖南来自iPhone客户端19楼2025-10-30 08:56收起回复
(I don't believe in predictions for Montpellier. Hashimoto's performance in the first round was quite poor as she made many mistakes, her movement was slower than usual, and her attacking state was fragmented)

派大星大王🐬 曾尖逆转伊藤，又能把大藤打下去，最近状态不错
IP属地:福建24楼2025-10-30 10:24收起回复
(Zeng Jian reversed Ito and defeated Odo, showing good form recently)

亞達姆 大藤本來就沒有日女主力硬實力
IP属地:中国香港来自iPhone客户端25楼2025-10-30 11:17回复
(Odo never had the raw strength of top JPN women)

aleenxuyi 我觉得桥本如果对上王艺迪还是很难赢，其实大迪的配置应该是不怕削球的就是没脑子，连着打了好几次再怎么没脑子也该学会了
IP属地:江苏来自Android客户端26楼2025-10-30 12:35回复
(I think Hashimoto would have a hard time beating Wang Yidi. Actually, Yidi's setup should not fear chops, but she just lacks the brains. After playing so many times, even the most brainless player should have learned something by now)

 

[zeio]

Zeng Jian on 3-2 Odo at WTT CS Montpellier 2025.

S’pore’s Zeng Jian slays Japan’s world No. 13 Satsuki Odo at World Table Tennis Champions Montpellier
https://www.straitstimes.com/sport/...o-at-world-table-tennis-champions-montpellier
Zeng, who had lost twice to the 21-year-old earlier in 2025, told The Straits Times: “Before the match, I was unsure if I could beat her. I just gave it my all, and I’m very happy to be able to play well and get the win.”

...

“I’ll be playing against a top chopper next and I’ve never beaten her before,” added Zeng, who has taken just one game off Hashimoto in five previous meetings. “But this will be a good learning opportunity and I will give my all to play as well as I can.”

...

National women’s coach Jing Junhong said: “We are very happy to see her achieve such breakthroughs.

“When we first started working together, she had quite a few problems in her technique and we told her she had to be brave and make adjustments if she wanted to have a breakthrough.

“It hasn’t been easy and there were slumps where we had to encourage her. These wins come from an accumulation of practice and experience from competitions and are a sign that what we have worked on are taking effect.”

 

[zeio]

【卓球】WTTチャンピオンズ モンペリエは男女2回戦が終了。松島輝空、張本美和、橋本帆乃香が準々決勝へ
https://world-tt.com/blog/news/archives/306613
https://news.yahoo.co.jp/articles/f6223734207adebd06812ed53c801b5fa8c2677f/comments
the********
3時間前
橋本・曾尖戦ですが、試合中に解説者から橋本選手は前日に伊藤選手と練習したとのこと。普段は別々とのことですが、橋本選手が伊藤選手に練習相手を頼んだのかな？その辺りは定かではないですが、ランキングを争うライバルでありながら、チームとして機能していますね。

試合日程や開始時刻を記載してくれるのはありがたいです。
「卓球王国」はWTTロンドンでは記事がなかなか出てこなかったのですが、今回はやってくれました。
(During the Hashimoto-Zeng Jian match, the commentator mentioned that Hashimoto had practiced with Ito the day before. They're usually separate teams, so perhaps Hashimoto asked Ito to be her practice partner? I'm not sure about that, but even though they're rivals competing for ranking, they do function well as a team.

I appreciate that they include the match schedules and start times.
It was difficult for "Table Tennis Kingdom" to publish articles about WTT London, but they did this time.)
16 concur, 2 ic, 0 hmm

 

[zeio]

WTT CS Montpellier 2025.

It looks like Matsushima could potentially equal Togami's highest WR (14 in WK25/2024) if he beats JWJ in SF.

 

[NextLevel]

WTT CS Montpellier 2025.

It looks like Matsushima could potentially equal Togami's highest WR (14 in WK25/2024) if he beats JWJ in SF.

Will that reduce and make up for all the abuse sent his way?

 

[zeio]

Will that reduce and make up for all the abuse sent his way?

Sigh, even Miwa gave him a piece of her for his attitude when asked about his behavior before. Take it or leave it.

 

[zeio]

For future reference. Matsushima on Miwa chewing him out back in 3/2025.

【卓球】「怒られたりします」高２松島輝空が明かす高１張本美和との関係性「普段はあんまり…」 ([Table Tennis] "I get scolded sometimes," says second-year high school student Matsushima Sora, revealing his relationship with first-year high school student Harimoto Miwa, "Not so much usually...")
https://www.nikkansports.com/sports/news/202503040000874.html

卓球男子で1月の全日本選手権初優勝を飾った松島輝空（17）が4日、高校生ペアの裏側を明かした。

都内で所属する木下グループの社員との交流イベントに参加。混合ダブルスでペアを組む張本美和（16）との話題になると「（主導権は）張本美和選手だと思います。結構（自分が）下がってしまったり『疲れた』と言って、怒られたりします」と笑わせ「同じ練習場所でやっているので、試合がない時、練習の時間が空いた時が少しある。サーブレシーブが修正できれば、チャンスがあるんじゃないかなと思います」とペアとしての成長を見据えた。

自身が高校2年生、張本が1年生と、日本の次世代を担う2人。松島は「あんまり普段はしゃべらないんですけど」と包み隠さずに明かし「張本選手はきょうだいで強い選手。ラリーが本当に強いので、そういう面で『すごいな』と思います」と刺激を力に変えていく。【松本航】

 

[zeio]

Threads users likely from Taiwan still called for the replacement of Matsushima over his attitude dragging Miwa down as of 10/2025.
https://www.threads.com/@q250187500/post/DFy3G0KTFB2

So before some folks feel sorry for Matsushima, who's feeling sorry for Tanaka despite his results?

 

[NextLevel]

Sigh, even Miwa gave him a piece of her for his attitude when asked about his behavior before. Take it or leave it.

It wasn't just his attitude, you forget all the times you said he had no future and compared him to Sun Yang in having trouble with his teammates. Or this is all my imagination?