Next blade recommendations after my nittaku acoustic

[Füty Imre]

Yelllow!

I have been playing table tennis for around 8-9 years with a few years off because of covid and health issues.
Im younger than 20 and I started thinking it might be beneficial to get a faster blade because of my style.
I'm 180cm tall, 74kg pretty lean athletic (I swam for 5 years, also did some athletics and competition)
My current setup: nittaku acoustic, BH donic bluestorm Z2, FH xiom vega tour
I'd say my coach is a really good teacher and player, his daughter is u13 top leaderboard and he had some great achievements throughout his career nationnali.
I play with hime every 1/2 weeks, and he didnt correct my fh except for some footwork when attacking backspin really close to the table. My bh is not that great tho because I played with short pimples for 3 years (nittaku moristo sp) but Im getting better at it.
I'v never tried butterfly rubbers but defenetly will becauseI have a pair of T05 that I got gifted.
Right now I'm mostly thinking about viscaria but I dont know If it would be too fast
One of my friends just got a TimoB ALC, I will probably try that out in a few days than I might be able to tell if the viscaria is a good way or not (in my country viscaria is 45 euros cheaper than TBalc)

I'm eager to hear your thoughts, also about your ecpirience with these rubbers

Thanks in advance

 

[BlopChock]

Seems a natural progression for you would be Acoustic inner or outer carbon, assuming you've enjoyed the 5 ply version. The "regular" (read: non LG nor G Revision) Nittaku handles are smaller than most; so best to stick with them if you dig the fit on yours!

 

[Füty Imre]

Seems a natural progression for you would be Acoustic inner or outer carbon, assuming you've enjoyed the 5 ply version. The "regular" (read: non LG nor G Revision) Nittaku handles are smaller than most; so best to stick with them if you dig the fit on yours!

Oh! Thats a thing a completly forgot about, I want a new blade because of the handle to, its not the worst for me but defenitly played with better ones.
Do you have personal experience with nittaku acoustic outer carbon? Because one of my clubmates has an inner version so I can try that

 

[mightymouse]

If you are still not consistent (technically), don't change your Acoustic to Viscaria or Boll ALC. And don't change to Acoustic Carbon (outer-type). It will be too fast for you. Acoustic Inner Carbon is still OK, although I prefer non-carbon version, feeling wise.

I understand that Acoustic (original version) has very thin handle. But persevere longer, you need to get consistent technically and Acoustic is good for developing players. Once you are around 2000 (US rating version) you can get whatever you want.

If you really can't stand the handle, you can change to Acoustic LG or SG handle, or at best Acoustic Inner Carbon LG or SG handle.

 

[steve888]

The nittaku acoustic inner is a good blade, it works well with harder rubbers, you can start with something like glayzer 05 and go up to dignics 05 or 09c. I had one gave to my son, he started with butterfly primorac and now the nittaku is his main competition blade.

 

[mamedium]

i have a Nittaku inner carbon, it feels very hollow mainly because it is 86g

i would strongly suggest you get blades over 90g - any blade!

 

[steve888]

The Nittaku acoustic inner carbon we have is about 93g. Its probably a bit more solid than the 86g version.

 

[merlin el mago]

Weight matter a lot!

 

[Füty Imre]

If you are still not consistent (technically), don't change your Acoustic to Viscaria or Boll ALC. And don't change to Acoustic Carbon (outer-type). It will be too fast for you. Acoustic Inner Carbon is still OK, although I prefer non-carbon version, feeling wise.

I understand that Acoustic (original version) has very thin handle. But persevere longer, you need to get consistent technically and Acoustic is good for developing players. Once you are around 2000 (US rating version) you can get whatever you want.

If you really can't stand the handle, you can change to Acoustic LG or SG handle, or at best Acoustic Inner Carbon LG or SG handle.

I'd say I'm pretty consistent, can you give me a quick run down on how this rating system works? maybe even attach a video at the rating that you were talking about. In my country where I play things are really different
Thanks in advance!

 

[mightymouse]

If you are technically consistent, then go ahead, you can explore those blades that you mentioned above.

I don't live in the USA anymore and I am not participating in any tournaments now, but I think that 2000 is the barrier that many US players want to achieve. Maybe somebody else can explain it to you better.

I know that many young players now start playing with composite, which is fine as long as they have good coaching/training. I think that up to 2000, you can still do well with allwood blades + modern rubbers.

However, you can try your friend's blade and see whether you like it or not.

 

[BlopChock]

I don't have an Acoustic outer yet but I do like my LG ST handled inner. Not only does the large handle fit better, but it lowers the balance/center of gravity a bit. Recommend it.

 

[BlopChock]

I think that up to 2000, you can still do well with allwood blades + modern rubbers.

Kristian Karlsson's SK7 and Bernadette Szocs' Signature 1 would like a word.

 

[belllfador]

+ Honoka Hashimoto 🥰 with 7 layers walnut and 100g ++ Goriki Super Cut.

 

[ajtatosmano2]

I'd say I'm pretty consistent, can you give me a quick run down on how this rating system works? maybe even attach a video at the rating that you were talking about. In my country where I play things are really different
Thanks in advance!

I think 2000 would be around BP/1B or Megye A, but I am not sure either. What league are you playing?

 

[Füty Imre]

I think 2000 would be around BP/1B or Megye A, but I am not sure either. What league are you playing?

I would be consistently winning in bp/1 but I probably will be playing in bp1/a, only a couple of weeks until we figure it out with the team captaim because they are going for nb3, one leauge above. So we have to talk about how much could a I play etc.... so we'll see

 

[NextLevel]

Yelllow!

I have been playing table tennis for around 8-9 years with a few years off because of covid and health issues.
Im younger than 20 and I started thinking it might be beneficial to get a faster blade because of my style.
I'm 180cm tall, 74kg pretty lean athletic (I swam for 5 years, also did some athletics and competition)
My current setup: nittaku acoustic, BH donic bluestorm Z2, FH xiom vega tour
I'd say my coach is a really good teacher and player, his daughter is u13 top leaderboard and he had some great achievements throughout his career nationnali.
I play with hime every 1/2 weeks, and he didnt correct my fh except for some footwork when attacking backspin really close to the table. My bh is not that great tho because I played with short pimples for 3 years (nittaku moristo sp) but Im getting better at it.
I'v never tried butterfly rubbers but defenetly will becauseI have a pair of T05 that I got gifted.
Right now I'm mostly thinking about viscaria but I dont know If it would be too fast
One of my friends just got a TimoB ALC, I will probably try that out in a few days than I might be able to tell if the viscaria is a good way or not (in my country viscaria is 45 euros cheaper than TBalc)

I'm eager to hear your thoughts, also about your ecpirience with these rubbers

Thanks in advance

Viscaria is fine, there is no completely scientific way to change equipment. Usually, what you do is try something else and see whether you like it for certain shots. So for Viscaria, you might try one from a friend and see whether you like it and copy it. As for equipment being too fast, originally most equipment was considered too fast in the context of feeling for the short game and in terms of arc to bend the ball on certain offensive shots. But you cannot tell at what blade stiffness or rubber speed you lose control.

The main problem with Viscaria coming from an Acoustic is that the outer ply of Acoustic is softer, so you might not like the sharpness of koto, and maybe you might lose feeling, but if you train a lot and relax, this can be adjusted to and the benefit is faster blocks and easier play further from the table. However, if not, I would say try a limba outer ply blade, the Freitas is the primary ALC alternative with outerforce, there are lots of innerforce options with traditional ALC and ZLC, Harimoto ALC and SALC, Dima ALC and Innerforce ZLC blades from Franziska and Apolonia.

It is better to test before you buy unless you have a lot of money, or at least read up on the blade composition before getting it so that your rationale is understood. But a Viscaria suits a lot of players doing a lot of different things, you should be fine with it as long as you get coaching and it is something like what your coach uses. Because coaches often teach best something similar to what they use.

 

[ajtatosmano2]

I would be consistently winning in bp/1 but I probably will be playing in bp1/a, only a couple of weeks until we figure it out with the team captaim because they are going for nb3, one leauge above. So we have to talk about how much could a I play etc.... so we'll see

You're probably above 2000 then, based on videos of USATT players I've seen (maybe 2100ish?). I am not an expert on blades, but Viscaria is the best bang for your buck amongst Butterfly blades. I don't think your level would limit what blade you can play with, try out your clubmates setups and buy something based on that.

 

[mightymouse]

Kristian Karlsson's SK7 and Bernadette Szocs' Signature 1 would like a word.

Yes... Even Lebesson already contacted me and challenged me to a duel...

 

[mightymouse]

+ Honoka Hashimoto 🥰 with 7 layers walnut and 100g ++ Goriki Super Cut.

Yes, she is upset with me as well.

Well, as a mortal, I think we all are fine to use BTY Korbel or Stiga Clipper for the rest of our lives. The reason I said 2000 is that current young players are so eager to use composite blades while they are not consistent yet. At least they have to wait a bit longer.